Guild Wars 2

Okay so to start off im positively hyped by these new armors (2 heavy screens, means prolly 2 light/medium, gib tentacles and gaping maws light armor plox).

But i wonder how us diehard WvW players will be hit here.
To elaborate ive got only 4700 acc points atm, and 2207 hours put into this game which is far from a small amount of time.

Of that time about 500 hours were PvE, the rest was WvW and exclusively WvW.
As we know you cant really progress all too fast in the achivement department when you play only WvW.
Also ive seen some of these threads and the elitism they try to breed and im positively revolted.

How many have toiled on WvW so your PvE loving kitten can get all those bonuses?
Ofc im not trying to put this in a light that anyone should build us a memorial plaque but if there was a way to replicate all your experience of this game but remove all the HP/healing power boosts that aided you, all the Exp from creeps and crafting, all those nodes that yielded more than they should without the boost….

I seriously hope there isnt a big enough group of such self centered people to pull the tide in their favour, and i hope Anet reads this or is thinking in the same way.
Cause seriously just cause you want to be a little special flower you are shafting all of us who dont play like you achivement junkies.

So yeah Anet, make sure you balance that junk so that WvW players dont get shafted once more like we did with how much we waited for Ascended gear and many other issues (AoE loot, thank you but ffs! Took you long enough).

This also came to my attention a few days ago.
We all by now know who Scarx is irrelevant of our chose in the part of the game we enjoy the most.

And while i dislike him and his guild these 2 images kinda draw on my point.
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/3914/s6c6.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5139/8gf0.jpg

Notice how much achivement points he has, also 2560 hours spent into the game.
Is he not entitled, like many of us to have this armor?
So i repeat, shafting the WvW population (which you are stupid to think isnt a massive part of the playerbase just as the PvE crowd is) will only lead to the outrage of a big part of the community.

And its not like theres really a lack of people leaving this game or threatening leaving.
Oh and dont forget the people that leave then return in hopes of something to their liking, then leave again disappointed.

Dem folks wont come back a second time.

All this overlooks the fact that WvW already has its own armor rewards system.

By all means give it to us for badges, im more than sick of my 8k badges making a mess of my bank.
And we until not that long ago had only one set look which was crud (its not an opinion, noone kittening wore those sets, noone even does now).
And even now after the “boost” we dont have any really special WvW sets, while the PvE crowd has more than enough dungeon sets you cannot earn in WvW.

But im not advertizing WvW specific sets (cause you know, i give a kitten how other players i share this game with feel) but these new sets are in no way PvE specific.
So theres no ground to shaft us for again.

Sounds like the solution for WvW is for Anet to make some skins that can be bought only with Badges of Honor.

Of course, then people will be in one of five groups:

1. those that love them and WvW = happy
2. those that love them and don’t WvW = potential complainer
3. those that loathe them and WvW = potential complainer
4. those that loathe them and don’t WvW = won’t care
5. those that aren’t worried about appearances = don’t care

But at least some people will be happy.

No this is bad my friend, this is what plagues WvW as we speak.
If someone wants the dungeon set he needs to part from WvW for days (or like a day if you have alts like me).

I should know, i have 2 fully geared in Arah, 2 in full SE and 1 in CoF. I can post pics if you want.
I had fun doing that, but i have more fun WvWing.
And i would probably not like to go back to PvE if my needs dont drag me there, and i dont like that.

You can see in the WvW forums about people complaining about needing badges for a legendary, imagine if sweet new armor showed its head as a WvW exclusive.

Our and their goal should be to strive for everyones happiness.

Zenguy.6421:

All this overlooks the fact that WvW already has its own armor rewards system.

Are you joking ? That is not an armor reward system. Have you seen the skins ? I mean what the kitten.
He is talking about´proper rewards and actual skins, not exotic armor with absolutely horrible skins just to make people buy transmutation stones to change the skins.

WvW should have way better rewards, atm badges are worthless, in 4 months Ive got ~15k badges, spent 5k of them gearing up my alts etc along with spending gems on stones lol, but they are pretty useless still. Same with karma and rank chests.
For example why cant someone who has lets say 50k kills, which is a lot lets be honest, get a unique weapon skin/armor set to show off.

If unlocks are going to be based solely on how many achievement points you have this is going to, yet again, shaft the WvW players.
Who have been behind since day one, and are still behind to this day.

ANet just made the game award WvW far less of anything. Karma, silver, experience , drops and also achievement points. Atleast upto now achievement points didnt really matter.

Last part not true, we get experience and karma out the wazoo, but experience is worthless after a while and karma just thank anet for Orrian jewelry boxes or I’d have probably somewhere between 3-5 million karma right now

I believe they will put rewards for completing some kinds of achievements. At least this would make sense.

They should amke so that people with 10k AP turn in his points for another, new kind of currency, based on gameplay time/activities etc. And let the actual AP alone, separately from this currency, though still with some rewards lile titles, skins, points etc.

WvW achievements need to be adjusted, that’s for sure. In terms of PvE achievements, they take about 10000000% more time to acquire and the points are the same.
They need to introduce several tiers for the WvW achievements to balance the points.

Djemo.7153:

No this is bad my friend, this is what plagues WvW as we speak.
If someone wants the dungeon set he needs to part from WvW for days (or like a day if you have alts like me).

I should know, i have 2 fully geared in Arah, 2 in full SE and 1 in CoF. I can post pics if you want.
I had fun doing that, but i have more fun WvWing.
And i would probably not like to go back to PvE if my needs dont drag me there, and i dont like that.

You can see in the WvW forums about people complaining about needing badges for a legendary, imagine if sweet new armor showed its head as a WvW exclusive.

Our and their goal should be to strive for everyones happiness.

I don’t know if you realise that PvE players need to grind or do stuff they enjoy less sometimes as well for the armor or weapons they want. I know it’s still PvE, but who enjoys farming Charged Lodestones for days on end really?

Djemo.7153:

By all means give it to us for badges, im more than sick of my 8k badges making a mess of my bank.
And we until not that long ago had only one set look which was crud (its not an opinion, noone kittening wore those sets, noone even does now).
And even now after the “boost” we dont have any really special WvW sets, while the PvE crowd has more than enough dungeon sets you cannot earn in WvW.

But im not advertizing WvW specific sets (cause you know, i give a kitten how other players i share this game with feel) but these new sets are in no way PvE specific.
So theres no ground to shaft us for again.

You could donate those badges in the form of Siege to your commanders. Just a thought. I know it requires generosity but it can be done.

I fail to see a problem with this. Naturally, people who branch out into everything the game has to offer(sPvP, PvE, and WvW) will have more achievement points(and thus more achievement rewards) than somebody who just specializes in one single aspect of the game. The people who go and take the time to earn achievements in every section of the game deserve to have more achievement points and thus more rewards to show for it.

Just like how you hit DR if you farm in one area for too long, you start seeing DR if you only do one part of the game for so long.

If you only do PvE then you’ll eventually run out of achievements(other than the repeatable ones which give like 2 points each). If you only do sPvP you’ll eventually need so many points just to rank up that it’d be faster to go do something else if you want achievements. If you only do WvW then you’ll have the same problem as sPvP – just a lot sooner.

I’ll admit that WvW does need to have less totals required for the achievements(I hear they’re adding new tiers anyways to allow for more points), but you shouldn’t expect/want to be equal to players who do ALL parts of the game when you only do one.

Zenguy.6421:

All this overlooks the fact that WvW already has its own armor rewards system.

The WvW armor does not have unique or even desirable skins. Calling that an armor rewards system is pretty charitable.

Anyway, the fact that I can capture 2,500 keeps over hundreds of hours and get fewer achievement points than I would get for completing 2 jumping puzzles in under one hour is ridiculous. If they’re adding a reward system based around achievement points then I expect them to completely re-balance and revamp the WvW achievement system because right now it does not even come close to representing your WvW accomplishments. I really hope this is the case.