Guild Wars 2

Hi,

I have an idea that might help servers with lower amount of players at night or even during the day..
What we used to do if we needed urgent help to defend our keep.. we would go to lions arch for example and shouted in map chat we needed help, players would then come. ( we can’t do this any more because of the new server system )

Since WvW is about your server, would it not be a great idea to create some sort of notification system for players in pve or roll playing in maps etc that their server needs them?

When i first started playing, i didn’t even know about pvp and wvw fo the first half a year, maybe the notification could be through a ! at the icon on the top that glows.
Once the threat is over, the ! can disappear.

What do others think about this? It might not be as relevant for T1 servers that have a queue all the time, but I think it would help the silver and bronze servers a lot.

i don’t know if it solves the problem as a whole, but for someone who’s mainly playing PVE and just visiting WvW from time to time, this would be nice, if it doesn’t get abused by the players.
Perhaps only commander with active commander tag and a certain amount of WvW experience points can post notifications in that system?

I think wvw needs to be taken off the server system. Just create factions and everyone picks a faction. You’re stuck with that faction unless you pay a large gold fee (50+) to switch allegiance to reduce trolling of the other sides.

Everything else would be the same. Same maps, 3 teams, etc. This would just allow them to compact the populations into a smaller number of teams. It would be like combining servers without actually needing to combine servers.

This would also make it easier for guildies to all do wvw together since they wouldn’t need to pay for server transfer. They can all just pick the same faction.

actually this is a great idea. I only started doing wvw back in the day because a commander was screaming his head off that we needed more people to help defend, and ive been doing wvw ever since.

There should be mail/notifications sent about our progress in wvw, how many tags are on each borderland/EB and what rewards we can work towards getting. People LIKE rewards, especially PVE players. If we saw loot we could possibly get (spirit shards, 2x rares) something like that, for our next wvw rank up, a lot more people would hop over there. Even if its for 10-20 minutes, thats a HUGE impact on wvw.

if a dev actually responds to this I will make a complete list of things that could hugely boost wvw. Im happy you made a post about this because ive been thinking about it for awhile

Good idea, some notification would be nice

Faction idea seem god on paper, but also seem like it come with trouble for say guilds and such.

uhohhotdog.3598:

This would also make it easier for guildies to all do wvw together since they wouldn’t need to pay for server transfer. They can all just pick the same faction.

Bad idea because we all know people like to stack on servers.. People would just stack on a faction and if you limit the number of people in a faction then chances are you’ll still be split up if that faction becomes full.. If there is no limit of players, most will just stack to the faction that always wins.

Going to use EoTM for an example. OG (green) usually always wins or has the most players. I don’t EoTM much but every time I hoped into it that seemed to be the case. Who would pick the other 2 when green seems to always dominate?

I pick blue and want to kick green but, lol

I’ve always thought they could use the chat channels to address this issue. Didn’t we have a bug in one of the BWE’s before launch were we could see our worlds team chat in PvE? That was before the megaserver business of course. Adding an additional world wide channel that players can manage how they see fit (visible on whichever tabs you set) with very strict spam limitations & lock outs to avoid WTS/B notices seems like it would be a nice QoL addition.

There was a lot of asking for LA to return to world specific instances for much of the same reason but I think we were told that wasn’t in their realm of possibility at the time. World specific chat channels have also been discussed and I thought it was something we might be going to hear back on someday but I guess they’ve been busy with HoT for the last . . . 18 months or so.

Something along these lines was brought up a while back. Some time around when “population changes” started being discussed. Megaservers (and EotM) did a lot more damage to WvW than Anet probably thought at the time, but they’ve done little to nothing to fix it.

I’m all for a mechanism whereby WvWers could notify others on their server that help was needed.

I’d suggest ANet change the base WvW Map Mechanic.

Hmm…don’t think an automatic message in Lions Arch would work with the current WvW Map Mechanic with the Megaserver system.

Well you could make 2 options:
- automated system when a target is contested.
- a commander tagged up can make a “call” which will activate the notification for 2 minutes or so.. ( every half hour for example to avoid spamming )

You have the mega server system, but you still know as a game developer whether a player is from a certain server or not, so it could work.

I am glad you guys like the idea.

I would love to get some feedback from any developer wether such an idea could work in your current system. It would make a lot of the players happy, i think that should matter.

Wow! I was thinking that I was the only one who ever thought of this idea but hey! I guess I know why they say “it’s a small world”….really small.

Anyway, if the dev’s do take a look at this it would be – really – something because it would change bronze servers to come up a bit in the rankings …next thing you know we see Desolation in low rankings at Silver League! Lol!

Anyway, i’m just ranting, good idea, was nice talking to everyone and if they dev’s see this; HI DEV’S

I agree with the points, it would be so useful. When the maps were per server I used to be in LA and people would always shout out if help was needed in wvw and a lot of people would go to help out. Now because it is megaservers, we can’t call out for help in case the enemy team is in the same map, so we usually don’t get reinforcements losing stuff

It doesn’t have to be a message the person types in, just a single button which alters according to which map you are on.

We need help on EB in WvW
We need help on Blue border
We need help on Red border
We need help on Green border

System looks through who is on and informs them of the message. Simples.

Yeah like that

The devs need to implement this as soon as possible to undo the damage they have done to WvW with megaserver.

Well, the idea is good, but… it would really take a big dump on the way WvW is currently organized in the community.

Scouts play a major part in the strategy of a server, informing borderhops, community guilds and just plain sticking around to defend. We will already see automated upgrading with HoT, do we really need automated scouting as well?

Just saying.

If Anet really wanted to spread the word on WvW and “alert” people that its actually part of the game, they could have a WvW event every other weekend (ie mf, karma boons). But nope, they only do that to sPvP.

The only problem with WvW events is making sure they are not the kinds of events that encourage farming. We don’t want all our WvW maps to be like EotM once in awhile, or do we?

in a lot of ways I always figured some of this was what the Extended Experience App was designed to address way back when and then got dropped long before launch, a way to make the WvW experience more interactive and connected to the rest of the game. It’s a bummer they didn’t pull off another way to make the connection. Heck, I’d love to even just to be able to see the WvW complete map status from PvE somehow and not only the pie chart.

Another thing the megaservers really screwed up that has yet to been addressed is world selection. New players are making that choice with very little understanding of what it means and the long term consequences. It is very sad that ANET has done so well with the overall game community tools and yet failed so badly at the WvW specific ones.

I’d actually love to see a server-based Lion’s Arch. The rest of Tyria can be mega server.

I would like to see a more developed system put in place to address this, but I support Jayne in regards to a server based LA being the “easy” answer.

I like the idea but the coding….

It would be nice to know if you guys at arenanet have read this thread/are going to talk about it, it’s really not a hard thing to make and would solve a lot of problems. For example this morning: SFR-AG ( since sfr has moved to ag pretty much ) is karma farming all maps, our server managed to get 3-4 players because generally people know we have given up. When a commander was trying, nobody was coming because we can’t communicate with our server. We have a forum with a shoutbox, but when you’re playing the game, you’re not checking it.

It’s a simple thing but such a big deal, i wish it would be taken a bit more serious.
Or at least let me and others know it’s going to be looked into.

BlackDeath.4398:

It would be nice to know if you guys at arenanet have read this thread/are going to talk about it, it’s really not a hard thing to make and would solve a lot of problems. [..]

It’s a simple thing but such a big deal, i wish it would be taken a bit more serious.
Or at least let me and others know it’s going to be looked into.

We definitely could use a way to get PvE players into WvW, but how do you get them to try it at a time where their experience will make them want to come back for more? Many try it, die and never return. Sadly, there’s not a heavyweight streamer/podcaster that promotes WvW (except maybe Doc).

I remember at EGX in London we met some PvE guys from an enemy server and when asked if they were WvWers they shrieked like girls and hid behind their programmes. Sad.

BlackDeath.4398:

It would be nice to know if you guys at arenanet have read this thread/are going to talk about it, it’s really not a hard thing to make and would solve a lot of problems. For example this morning: SFR-AG ( since sfr has moved to ag pretty much ) is karma farming all maps, our server managed to get 3-4 players because generally people know we have given up. When a commander was trying, nobody was coming because we can’t communicate with our server. We have a forum with a shoutbox, but when you’re playing the game, you’re not checking it.

It’s a simple thing but such a big deal, i wish it would be taken a bit more serious.
Or at least let me and others know it’s going to be looked into.

Right now is probably the worst possible time to be asking for WvW feedback on this issue on this forum so good luck with that. I expect we will start to see some news about their plans for the WvW patch by the end of the year after the dust from HoT’s launch has settled down and hopefully there will be something in there to help address this issue or if not, at least some red name posts to bring up the discussion in.

We probably wont even get the WvW patch until spring 2016 anyways so be prepared to wait another 6 months. These kinds of things are never as simple as they seem like they should be so your exact idea may not even be possible but as long as we keep bringing up this same general theme it should help keep it on their mind. I will also point out that this particular thread title probably does not support your premise all that well to help it get noticed.

Give account bonuses for wvw ranks. Give laurels and other currency for wvw rank up rewards.