Guild Wars 2

Makes no sense for me. Lets say a high and low ranked player duo roam doing the exact same things. Why should one of them earn more/less pip than the other?

Would like to see a performance based(capped objectives, defended objectives, kills, deaths, etc.), calculated number for each player instead of this. Based on this number players could earn more or less pips per tick.

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

As Ulion said.. it’s the reward those players who have been wvw longer..Those dedicated to the mod, especially as wvw has been lacking for sometime compared to all other modes.

Edit: It’s like pvp seasons and giving players who climbed the ladder something for getting that high, but not dumping them back down the very bottom.

Ulion.5476:

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

new stats will likely be in a the next expansion. Possibly in LS3E6 as there is a precedent for it.

Ulion.5476:

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

Sadly it will just reward those who were on busier servers and those that k-trained in EOTM for ranks, rather than the dedicated wvw’rs who might only make one rank in a session.

Baldrick.8967:

Ulion.5476:

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

Sadly it will just reward those who were on busier servers and those that k-trained in EOTM for ranks, rather than the dedicated wvw’rs who might only make one rank in a session.

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have been slacking if they are lower than that?

Junkpile.7439:

Baldrick.8967:

Ulion.5476:

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

Sadly it will just reward those who were on busier servers and those that k-trained in EOTM for ranks, rather than the dedicated wvw’rs who might only make one rank in a session.

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have slacking if they are lower than me?

Really depends on playstyle alot, I’m around 2.1k, and i did mostly fighting, never capped alot of keeps & towers.
However, i did not play WvW actively for more than a year, so i’d probably be around 3 – 3.5k now.

If this going to be a thing, i cannot wait for the pvers to come QQ at this. GoB 2.0 weeeee

Does this mean you get better rewards for beating high ranked WvWers?

Let the manhunt begin!
SO APPROPRIATE!

Svarty.8019:

Does this mean you get better rewards for beating high ranked WvWers?

Let the manhunt begin!
SO APPROPRIATE!

this would actually be fun, there are only 17 max ranked WvW on GW2 Efficiency, making them the most wanted people in WvW. only dead btw!!!

Junkpile.7439:

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have been slacking if they are lower than that?

I just passed 4k and I’m in the top 500 on GW2Efficiency. While that doesn’t mean everything, it seems high WvW ranks really aren’t all that common.

Personally, I think this is a decent solution to give people who invested more time in WvW a boost in rewards. With some players having different play styles and opportunities to boost their ranks, of course it’s never going to be 100% clear cut who deserves what, but it’s a better implementation than most I’ve seen brought up.

Svarty.8019:

Does this mean you get better rewards for beating high ranked WvWers?

Let the manhunt begin!
SO APPROPRIATE!

We get hunted anyway, no change there. If anything you should get more WXP for killing us, this was how it was handled in WoW years ago when I was a High Warlord.

Dominik.5162:

Junkpile.7439:

Baldrick.8967:

Ulion.5476:

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

Sadly it will just reward those who were on busier servers and those that k-trained in EOTM for ranks, rather than the dedicated wvw’rs who might only make one rank in a session.

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have slacking if they are lower than me?

Really depends on playstyle alot, I’m around 2.1k, and i did mostly fighting, never capped alot of keeps & towers.
However, i did not play WvW actively for more than a year, so i’d probably be around 3 – 3.5k now.

Dominik.5162:

Junkpile.7439:

Baldrick.8967:

Ulion.5476:

We still do not know how big of an effect it will be but its also to reward the dedicated wvwer that have been lacking rewards for sometime now. I just hope their are new runes./sigil and armor stats for the wvw armors like sage gear.

Sadly it will just reward those who were on busier servers and those that k-trained in EOTM for ranks, rather than the dedicated wvw’rs who might only make one rank in a session.

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have slacking if they are lower than me?

Really depends on playstyle alot, I’m around 2.1k, and i did mostly fighting, never capped alot of keeps & towers.
However, i did not play WvW actively for more than a year, so i’d probably be around 3 – 3.5k now.

And deppends if u are o a ktrain servers as well, if u are on one u guiys might have a big rank, i dont do EOTM, nor i ktrain, i playu since beta on same server etc, and a very low populations server that is outmaned most times (like we call the NSP magic find stat buff) so im arround 1k+.

it all resumes to who blobs harder faster.

And anet putted us against magumma for us to be 24/7 ktrained.

Agree with play style being big factor in ranking. My wife and I have been in WvW for 1707 days on same server and rank just below 2k ^^ No ktrain, EOTM, … just defend, repair, escort, scout, hunt and kill.

ImNoir.5742:

Agree with play style being big factor in ranking. My wife and I have been in WvW for 1707 days on same server and rank just below 2k ^^ No ktrain, EOTM, … just defend, repair, escort, scout, hunt and kill.

I’m in a similar boat. I have about five years as a dedicated roamer and occasional havoc, and I’m sitting at about 2.1k.

I kill lots of players, I take camps and towers on my own (often so I’m impeding zergs) and the occasional keep (though usually with buddies, since pulling that off alone takes a seriously dead map).

So my time and contribution is high, but my rank is much lower than someone who would have spent half as much time at the back of a blob hitting 1-1-1-1-1-1-1.

That said, I don’t care about rewards at all, so I don’t think I’m being penalized for having played the way I wanted.

I was an active roamer during until the wvw tournaments and I was at 2k then. A couple of year later only gained 700 wxp since then. If I stayed active I would be around 6-7k. Wxp ranks depends on how much free time you have. and if you are actively going after objectives.

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have been slacking if they are lower than that?

I am rank 650 ish, 5K hours, 102K kills. I took a 2 year break and recently came back.

I don’t think the “bonus rewards” threshold will be crazy or in the multiple thousands, I think it’ll be just high enough so that players who have reached r500 or something will get an extra pip per tick that they qualify for. The idea is to reward people with some loyalty to the game mode, regardless of how they got there or over how long a period. It’s analogous to how playing games in ranked PvP at the platinum rank or higher rewards an extra pip.

I transferred an alt off the crowded boring server I was paired with awhile back because I couldn’t play the way I wanted to and I haven’t played my 16 rank shy of 2k main regularly since this link because I’m unwilling to transfer it off my home just so I can play it the way I want!

Rank isn’t the only factor for a player from a guest server, they could still have a respectable rank and simply not want to play for the server they get paired with.

While I’m all for rewards and whatnot, I’ll reiterate, I transferred an alt off a “boring” server, boring in that there was nothing for a roamer to do because the zergs and other roamers were taking care of it. Rewards added? = All servers ending up like this.
Doesn’t mean every server will be ktrain city 24/7, just means if you play a certain way in a certain timeszone, you’ll be lucky if you’re a respectable rank because you’ll likely have to transfer every week to continue to find a semblance of your version of fun.

I think they should add WvW rank affecting Queue so ppl with higher rank can get in faster lolololol.

for along time wvw didn’t even pay for itself. ranks important the fact its been hijacked through various scams most of which closed? doesn’t change that fact. for newbs its something to aim for …. like the rest of gw2

Svarty.8019:

Does this mean you get better rewards for beating high ranked WvWers?

Let the manhunt begin!
SO APPROPRIATE!

They had this in Warhammer Online, higher ranks gave more exp and dropped better loot, it was very fun!

I get the IDEA behind this but those of us who roam and havok get very little rank compared to those who ktrain or are in fight guilds. I spend HOURS a day in wvw but often don’t rank up more than once.

Im not sure how you are not getting much wexp from havok. Yaks, sentries, camps, towers, it adds up quickly. Until HoT sucked much of the fun out of it for me I mained theif and mostly did havok and was ahead of most other players on my server. I made sure I killed a guard at every structure I passed just incase the blobbed flipped it later, because you still get credit for it provided you havent logged out, but thats about the biggest nod to trying I ever made.
Pure roamers that never touch an npc I can understand having a hard time but certainly not havok.
Rank is much more effected by the sheer amount of hours you play in my experience. Despite doing small stuff for the majority of the game and rarely setting foot in EOTM, (I have literally no EOTM achieves done), I’m Diamond Legend No Life :/

Bopha Debs.3290:

I get the IDEA behind this but those of us who roam and havok get very little rank compared to those who ktrain or are in fight guilds. I spend HOURS a day in wvw but often don’t rank up more than once.

You’re just gonna have to come join me for raids sometime….

But seriously, I get the frustration… I split my time between two accounts, so I’ll never have the same rank as the people who just play one. Still…. I am glad that they are recognizing and rewarding those who are dedicated to this game mode.

Celsith.2753:

Im not sure how you are not getting much wexp from havok.

Not everyone plays as many hours, which is part of the point of giving more reward gain to players who play the mode more. I don’t see anything unfair about it.

From what I’m used to in terms of WvW it’s probably just +1 greenie.

Chaba.5410:

Celsith.2753:

Im not sure how you are not getting much wexp from havok.

Not everyone plays as many hours, which is part of the point of giving more reward gain to players who play the mode more. I don’t see anything unfair about it.

Exactly my point.

Anet rewards loyal players for their dedication, this is nothing new and shouldn’t come as a surprise. One can only imagine low ranked players and casual wvw players complaining about this. Players have fought hard and long hours to get those high ranks, they deserve benefits for their efforts & for keeping wvw alive.

A few in my guild have been complaining about getting higher ranks as this leads to being focused alot more in wvw. So i’m glad rank will now have some meaningful reason to level beyond 1k.

Plus, look at it like this… THE REWARDS ONLY GETS BETTER! :-)

Celsith.2753:

I made sure I killed a guard at every structure I passed just incase the blobbed flipped it later

I still do this, even though I don’t need to anymore, old habits die hard :P

I think about it like this. At rank 97 which I currently am, I have obviously not played much WvW. I want to get into it as that’s the game mode that got me initially interested in GW2. Now someone who has a rank of over 1k has played a LOT more than I have and we all know the history of WvW rewards. It makes sense that those people deserve to get their rewards faster as they are long overdue anyway. Good things are worth waiting for.

I am rank 10k and i demand legendary armor
If i would spent that time in pve raids i would had it by now
i hope A-net will fullfill my request , and give extra rewards for players that played wvw only

Wouldn’t magic find be pretty much the same thing?

I haven’t seen anyone mention this yet, so I will. You only need 1k ranks to max out every WvW trait line. Expecting requirements to be over rank 500 is probably unrealistic. You only need rank 50 to unlock the first backpiece, “very high” could be rank 300-400 for Anet. We just don’t know and PvE’rs are already complaining…

Chunky Milk.2130:

PvE’rs are already complaining…

What are you talking about?

WvW players are the red headed step child of ANET’s development team. Thank god we finally get some compensation for our years of living in the dog house.

Radioactive.1248:

WvW players are the red headed step child of ANET’s development team. Thank god we finally get some compensation for our years of living in the dog house.

head step child that was abandoned until some one remmebered and gave it a placebo reward to shut up and stay quited at your corner XD

It’s too messy, wanting too much at the same time will cause problems. WVW rank really is just who has time, and sure someone who just ktrains may not be as skilled but that’s how it is. When you start going all specific like “if you do this and that you get more” then people are just going to essential shift their “zerg” and do that, cheese with classes etc. Then people be on the forums saying WVW is just X and X capturing/doing this objective.

The extra pips/reward hopefully aren’t too much because like I stated, you can just put on all tanky gear, and have followed ktrains for 3-4 years and have a monster WVW, it’s just time. If it’s too much of a difference then you’re going to still scare off people wanting to bother with WVW.

HolyWood.7853:

Makes no sense for me. Lets say a high and low ranked player duo roam doing the exact same things. Why should one of them earn more/less pip than the other?

Because they havent done the exact same things, otherwise they would have the same rank.

Wanze.8410:

HolyWood.7853:

Makes no sense for me. Lets say a high and low ranked player duo roam doing the exact same things. Why should one of them earn more/less pip than the other?

Because they havent done the exact same things, otherwise they would have the same rank.

That’s not what the OP means, if he is lets say rank platinum and his roam buddy bronze he would get pips faster.

We do not know what kind of bonus it will be for high rank player versus lower rank players. If anything A-net could just decrease the participation tiers needed before a higher rank players before they start to get pips or they could directly increase the number of pips given per tick. We do not have enough info yet.

Chunky Milk.2130:

I haven’t seen anyone mention this yet, so I will. You only need 1k ranks to max out every WvW trait line. Expecting requirements to be over rank 500 is probably unrealistic. You only need rank 50 to unlock the first backpiece, “very high” could be rank 300-400 for Anet. We just don’t know and PvE’rs are already complaining…

WvW ranks currently go from zero to “over 9000 !” . So if by “very high” Anet really means only 300-400 rank, that would be a terrible misuse of the English language in my opinion.

has some one who only play WvW, im very low and i have 1k….. lel

the problem is ktrain blob servers will propably farm that backpice easilly, while the pve players that join the dead servers wvw will be burned with loosing every skirmish and WvW rank will take alot of time….

never the less, its a placebo update… rewards is the worts way to fix stuff when the problem arent the rewards…

Aeolus.3615:

has some one who only play WvW, im very low and i have 1k….. lel

Same here
I’ve been playing a ton of WvW in the first 2 years (my guess is 2500-3000hrs) and I’m at rank 900 lol

Aeolus.3615:

has some one who only play WvW, im very low and i have 1k….. lel

the problem is ktrain blob servers will propably farm that backpice easilly, while the pve players that join the dead servers wvw will be burned with loosing every skirmish and WvW rank will take alot of time….

never the less, its a placebo update… rewards is the worts way to fix stuff when the problem arent the rewards…

You say that you lose against PvE players? 10 WvW player should kill 70 PvE players easily.

Aeolus.3615:

has some one who only play WvW, im very low and i have 1k….. lel

the problem is ktrain blob servers will propably farm that backpice easilly, while the pve players that join the dead servers wvw will be burned with loosing every skirmish and WvW rank will take alot of time….

never the less, its a placebo update… rewards is the worts way to fix stuff when the problem arent the rewards…

You say that you lose against PvE players? 10 WvW players should kill 70 PvE players easily.

JunkPile i find that offensive cause the server i am dont have a blob.

10 vs 70? man ur playing against lots of badies…. u hide in siege or u play on EOTM but eotm in not WvW.. how about play a game with real pvp instead of being carried in this game?
Meanwhile i noticed u play on EU servers, the gap of population in NA is huge and pve players dont put their feet on WvW, also ANet keeps pairing even dead servers with the top servers.

Why does it even matter, in a few months everyone will have every thing they want wether they are rank 50 or rank 10,000.

Aeolus.3615:

JunkPile i find that offensive cause the server i am dont have a blobs.

10 vs 70? man ur playing against lots of badies…. u hide in siege or u play on EOTM but eotm in not WvW.. how about play a game with real pvp instead of being carried in this game?

i play mace shield shout guard i dont get carried by power creep.

Well i play in EotM so i have meet lot’s of PvE players. That why i know that 10 vs 70 should be easy.

Justine.6351:

Why does it even matter, in a few months everyone will have every thing they want wether they are rank 50 or rank 10,000.

wich is stupid and shows how Anet is OK with the ktrains and groups avoiding fights, while Anet keeps pairing server with diferent ktrain momentum timezones so both have a change to ktrain…

Even disney would make better pvp game…