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Posted by: choban.9027

choban.9027

First of all I would like to say that I was trying to find some similar discussions, but I couldn’t find any, so I am opening a new thread. So I apologize in advance if there is already something similar.

I am fairly new to WvW, playing only for a week (after huge break) and in a week I reached rank 151.

I find it odd that you are starting as invader and then when you reach rank 120 you become LEGEND, and then at 150 you’re again poor invader, only difference is that you’re Bronze invader.

To me, this is really bad. Who would like to be an Invader after you were a legend.

My suggestion would be to reposition this titles so that we star as Invader, then move to Bronze invader, Silver, Gold and so on. This would make so much sense.

What do you think?

One more suggestion would be that you make this titles visible to everyone, not just to our enemies…

Sorry for my bad English, and sorry if I broke some forum rules by posting this here.

Cheers from Gandara

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Posted by: MrKrataus.6420

MrKrataus.6420

“and in a week I reached rank 151.”
..

….

WTF

[vM] Alkore

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Posted by: choban.9027

choban.9027

That’s not the point of this post, and yes I did, with 3 birthday and few WvW XP boosters. Easy…

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Posted by: Tibstrike.2974

Tibstrike.2974

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttt……dat karma train.

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Posted by: MiLkZz.4789

MiLkZz.4789

I got 205 ranks in 5 days with birthday boosters, they are insane.

Anyway, I first agreed with you OP. But I changed my mind. I am now rank 1500+ and you don’t do it for the name. You do it for the thing infront of it.

People don’t see invader/squire/legend, they see bronze/gold/platinum/mithril. So being gold ranked, people see way faster that I am high ranked. While it would be much harder to see with your method and let’s face it, we all like to have a big kitten.

So being in the bronze or gold tier is more rewarding than being an invader or legend.

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Posted by: sminkiottone.6972

sminkiottone.6972

“and in a week I reached rank 151.”
..

….

WTF

WTF was my initial tought.. some people have too much time on theyr hand i guess..

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Posted by: choban.9027

choban.9027

I got 205 ranks in 5 days with birthday boosters, they are insane.

Anyway, I first agreed with you OP. But I changed my mind. I am now rank 1500+ and you don’t do it for the name. You do it for the thing infront of it.

People don’t see invader/squire/legend, they see bronze/gold/platinum/mithril. So being gold ranked, people see way faster that I am high ranked. While it would be much harder to see with your method and let’s face it, we all like to have a big kitten.

So being in the bronze or gold tier is more rewarding than being an invader or legend.

Well, it really depends on how you see things. When I first joined I did not know how rank titles work, so I assumed that Champions or Legends are way higher than some Bronze Recruit
To my ears Diamond Recruit does not sound better than Legend in any way.

“and in a week I reached rank 151.”
..

….

WTF

WTF was my initial tought.. some people have too much time on theyr hand i guess..

Well, I was playing every night after work for few hours during peak times, only WvW. Once again, that’s really not important for this discussion…

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

Jayden Ennok.3687

Would be awesome if we were able to select WvW title from all those we got so far so I could be “invader” and troll people even more.

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Posted by: Menzies The Heretic.3415

Menzies The Heretic.3415

Perhaps they could rearrange the titles like this:

Invader
Bronze invader
Silver invader
Golden invader

“A hundred levels later… " yay I’m finally a:

Scout
Bronze scout
Silver scout
etc..

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Posted by: choban.9027

choban.9027

Perhaps they could rearrange the titles like this:

Invader
Bronze invader
Silver invader
Golden invader

“A hundred levels later… " yay I’m finally a:

Scout
Bronze scout
Silver scout
etc..

Maybe it wasn’t clear enough from my first post, but this is what I was aiming for. It makes so much more sense than this current system.

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

I post this from time to time and certainly open for adjustment. Anyway:

00 Initiate
10 Recruit
20 Cadet
30 Invader
50 Footman
75 Journeyman
100 Assaulter
150 Vanquisher
200 Raider
300 Scout
400 Guardsman
500 Soldier
600 Trooper
700 Crusader
800 Knight
900 Commando
1000 Veteran Commando
1100 Elite Commando
1200 Sergeant
1300 Veteran Sergeant
1400 Elite Sergeant
1500 Captain
1700 Veteran Captain
1900 Elite Captain
2100 Major
2400 Veteran Major
2800 Elite Major
3200 Colonel
3600 Veteran Colonel
4000 Elite Colonel
4500 Brigadier
5000 Veteran Brigadier
5500 Elite Brigadier
6000 General
7000 Veteran General
8000 Elite General
9000 Champion
12000 Veteran Champion
14000 Elite Champion
16000 Grand Champion
20000 Legend

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

I got 205 ranks in 5 days with birthday boosters, they are insane.

Anyway, I first agreed with you OP. But I changed my mind. I am now rank 1500+ and you don’t do it for the name. You do it for the thing infront of it.

People don’t see invader/squire/legend, they see bronze/gold/platinum/mithril. So being gold ranked, people see way faster that I am high ranked. While it would be much harder to see with your method and let’s face it, we all like to have a big kitten.

So being in the bronze or gold tier is more rewarding than being an invader or legend.

I agree completely. The higher an opponents rank the more I want to kill them though, lol. I’ve seen a few Platinum’s and two Mithril’s. All of which I immediately go out of my way to fight to see how good they are.

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

I post this from time to time and certainly open for adjustment. Anyway:

00 Initiate
10 Recruit
20 Cadet
30 Invader
50 Footman
75 Journeyman
100 Assaulter
150 Vanquisher
200 Raider
300 Scout
400 Guardsman
500 Soldier
600 Trooper
700 Crusader
800 Knight
900 Commando
1000 Veteran Commando
1100 Elite Commando
1200 Sergeant
1300 Veteran Sergeant
1400 Elite Sergeant
1500 Captain
1700 Veteran Captain
1900 Elite Captain
2100 Major
2400 Veteran Major
2800 Elite Major
3200 Colonel
3600 Veteran Colonel
4000 Elite Colonel
4500 Brigadier
5000 Veteran Brigadier
5500 Elite Brigadier
6000 General
7000 Veteran General
8000 Elite General
9000 Champion
12000 Veteran Champion
14000 Elite Champion
16000 Grand Champion
20000 Legend

30000 The Terminator
40000 T-Rex
50000 Come to me brah, Let me show you
60000 Rambo

and at

100000 Chuck Norris

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Posted by: Delta.2093

Delta.2093

I just want to hide my wxp “rank”, just make it something modest, like “JQ Nobody [TAG]”. That rank can’t show how skilled you are, and even then, you can kill me if I eat during that time. It’s a bit harder to fight back using just one hand. Or if I’m tired stopping to face “roamers” (very annoying, if you have to reach something). I don’t care at all of dying or being “good” just for the sake of “boasting”. Very silly and childish. That wxp “rank” just shows how many time you spent in WvW, doing… nothing special. The only thing I feel for my rank is shame, and I’m glad that at least my server can’t see it. (It’s about 400 or higher, and lower on alts, and I’m not to blame for having that, just happens, you can’t decrease it… once received, you’ve got stuck with that, unless creating a new account, and then have fun leveling again)

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

The System goes only until Rank 9999, after that the Rank System stops and you reached Max Rank

After the ranks got implemented and I had seen some days later, what all the ranks are in the official wiki, I was shocked too about this massive uncreativity.

I made due to this a long time ago also a suggestion list to change the rank names to somethign far more clear and simple. I think until today, the list should look like this:

Rank under 50 = Private
On Rank 50 = Recruit
On Rank 100 = Invader
On Rank 150 = Scout
On Rank 250 = Raider
On Rank 350 = Assaulter
On Rank 450 = Squire
On Rank 600 = Knight
On Rank 750 = Crusader
On Rank 1000 = Sergeant
On Rank 1250 =Captain
On Rank 1500 = Colonel
On Rank 2000 = Major
On Rank 2500 = Lieutenant
On Rank 3500 = General
On Rank 4500 = Veteran
On Rank 6000 = Elite
On Rank 7500 = War Hero
On Rank 9999 = Legendary Commander

Theres absolutely no need for thousands of rank titles, just reduce the amount of rank titles and every rank title just would become alot more meanignful, once you reach a next rank.

if you eare now Bronze Footman or Bronze Knight is absolutely meaningless, it justz means, the knight player as grinded 30 ranks more.

But if you are under my system now a Knight or a Crusader, does mean more, because you would need to have to put more effort into reaching your next rank.
Under the current system would be btween knight and crusader 5 other ranks each 30 ranks… these 5 niche rank titles are absolute obsolete.

Plus, my system is alot more clear and simple to look at.

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside

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Posted by: Yuki Chuki.2457

Yuki Chuki.2457

I got 205 ranks in 5 days with birthday boosters, they are insane.

Serious question, how do you do that?!!
I just can’t imagine it, no matter how many karma trains you ride. I assume you won’t have the outmanned bonus while making serious WXP points because you don’t have enough people to get a karma train rolling.

That’ leaves you with WXP and Birthday Boosters and means you get 250% WXP. Taking a tower (including the gate and the supervisor) gives you 500 WXP. Let’s be generous and say you also get some guards or other players and make it 600WXP. WIth the boosters that’s 1.5k WXP per tower.
205 ranks accumulate to approximately 1mio WXP (200*5000) which in turn equals to ~ 667 towers (1mio/1.5k).

If you play 16 hours a day for 5 days you get 80h of playtime.
Even if you really played all day long(I assume if you play 16h/day and still eat and sleep, playing’s pretty much everything you’d do while awake) you’d still have to take over 8 towers per hour (667 towers/80h).

It isn’t that I don’t believe you. I just can’t see how to make so much WXP (the 150 levels by just playing “for a few hours every evening” are probably even way more incredible.). Do you just run from structure to structure and kill one guard so you’ll get credit when someone takes it? I’m flabbergasted!

As to OP’s question: I don’t mind the bronze/silver/etc. tiers. I’d just be happy if the order of ranks within one tier would make a bit more sense

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Posted by: Naz.2607

Naz.2607

zomg, I have got to have the Chuck Norris rank!

Naz ©

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Posted by: MiLkZz.4789

MiLkZz.4789

I got 205 ranks in 5 days with birthday boosters, they are insane.

Serious question, how do you do that?!!
I just can’t imagine it, no matter how many karma trains you ride. I assume you won’t have the outmanned bonus while making serious WXP points because you don’t have enough people to get a karma train rolling.

That’ leaves you with WXP and Birthday Boosters and means you get 250% WXP. Taking a tower (including the gate and the supervisor) gives you 500 WXP. Let’s be generous and say you also get some guards or other players and make it 600WXP. WIth the boosters that’s 1.5k WXP per tower.
205 ranks accumulate to approximately 1mio WXP (200*5000) which in turn equals to ~ 667 towers (1mio/1.5k).

If you play 16 hours a day for 5 days you get 80h of playtime.
Even if you really played all day long(I assume if you play 16h/day and still eat and sleep, playing’s pretty much everything you’d do while awake) you’d still have to take over 8 towers per hour (667 towers/80h).

It isn’t that I don’t believe you. I just can’t see how to make so much WXP (the 150 levels by just playing “for a few hours every evening” are probably even way more incredible.). Do you just run from structure to structure and kill one guard so you’ll get credit when someone takes it? I’m flabbergasted!

As to OP’s question: I don’t mind the bronze/silver/etc. tiers. I’d just be happy if the order of ranks within one tier would make a bit more sense

I was commanding for 70 hours in EOTM, was the week when it came out. Took me few hours to find the most optimal route to cap everything as fast as possible. I was lucky to be on the strongest set of servers. So we just wiped the enemy a few times and their numbers dropped by so much that we could cap the entire map. Once everything was capped, I switched EOTM overflow and started to cap everything again. You could turn up to 3 overflows entirely to your color in those 4 hours.

Not sure if it is still possible because there aren’t that many EOTM overflows anymore.

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Posted by: Yuki Chuki.2457

Yuki Chuki.2457

Thanks for taking the time to answer, MiLkZz. It was an interesting read

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

I got 205 ranks in 5 days with birthday boosters, they are insane.

Serious question, how do you do that?!!
I just can’t imagine it, no matter how many karma trains you ride. I assume you won’t have the outmanned bonus while making serious WXP points because you don’t have enough people to get a karma train rolling.

That’ leaves you with WXP and Birthday Boosters and means you get 250% WXP. Taking a tower (including the gate and the supervisor) gives you 500 WXP. Let’s be generous and say you also get some guards or other players and make it 600WXP. WIth the boosters that’s 1.5k WXP per tower.
205 ranks accumulate to approximately 1mio WXP (200*5000) which in turn equals to ~ 667 towers (1mio/1.5k).

If you play 16 hours a day for 5 days you get 80h of playtime.
Even if you really played all day long(I assume if you play 16h/day and still eat and sleep, playing’s pretty much everything you’d do while awake) you’d still have to take over 8 towers per hour (667 towers/80h).

It isn’t that I don’t believe you. I just can’t see how to make so much WXP (the 150 levels by just playing “for a few hours every evening” are probably even way more incredible.). Do you just run from structure to structure and kill one guard so you’ll get credit when someone takes it? I’m flabbergasted!

As to OP’s question: I don’t mind the bronze/silver/etc. tiers. I’d just be happy if the order of ranks within one tier would make a bit more sense

Dont forget that you can buy wvw ranks with laurels and badges of honour >.>

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside