WvW survey: defining the meta.

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Posted by: Billaboong.6821

Billaboong.6821

Since the last updates and the posts about future ones, WvW is becoming popular again. Meanwhile, Metabattle (and any other public build database) hasn’t been updated, as a consequence of the lack of admins and of the past long decline of WvW.

I have therefore created a general survey to define the current meta. As you start the survey, you will understand that it does not aim to produce precise meta builds (since WvW builds are influenced by own preferences more than it any other game mode) but more to understand the general aspects of such builds. This data will then be analyzed by WvW specialists and transformed into builds which will be pubicly available.

More information can be found in the first part of the survey.

Link to survey:

Thank you for helping the community!

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Posted by: StefanS.4351

StefanS.4351

yeah thats exactly what we need!

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

I don’t quite understand the way the survey is set up.

The role of each profession is already defined by you at the top of page. But that role is not all that accurate. Mesmer is defined as single target dps, but it is more used for boon share. Ele is listed as backline dps but it can also serve as a frontline/midline support. Rev is listed as backline dps as well but it is fully capable of being a frontline.

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

Josh XT.6053

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

i agree with exciton its important to add more possible choices as the meta has changed, possibly more then you have realized.
great work though thanks.

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Posted by: Billaboong.6821

Billaboong.6821

I don’t quite understand the way the survey is set up.

The role of each profession is already defined by you at the top of page. But that role is not all that accurate. Mesmer is defined as single target dps, but it is more used for boon share. Ele is listed as backline dps but it can also serve as a frontline/midline support. Rev is listed as backline dps as well but it is fully capable of being a frontline.

I recon there is more build variety (ex ele being backline or frontline). The issue is that I cannot make a survey for a class with people answering in different ways depending on the build they have in mind.
I have therefore briefly described the build people are surveying for, to make sure what they are voting for.
In the future I could make a survey with more variety (like 2 sections for ele: one for frontline and one for backline), but in this survey I preferred to go 1 class 1 build.

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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

Grayclay.4579

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

Dope builds breh. You ever play Engi?

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

Josh XT.6053

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

Dope builds breh. You ever play Engi?

I wasn’t ever too great at Engineer, didn’t spend too much time on it but when I did, I played condi/perplexity back when that was good lol. I might try to get back in to it now that Scrapper is pretty decent for roaming.

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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

Grayclay.4579

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

Dope builds breh. You ever play Engi?

I wasn’t ever too great at Engineer, didn’t spend too much time on it but when I did, I played condi/perplexity back when that was good lol. I might try to get back in to it now that Scrapper is pretty decent for roaming.

Breh, P/P condi is so strong right now. Do it, I want to see you put your usual twist on it.

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Posted by: Zetsumei.4975

Zetsumei.4975

Meh make your own builds. People need to learn to stop copy + pasting others’.

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

Josh XT.6053

Meh make your own builds. People need to learn to stop copy + pasting others’.

Some people just find what is effective and don’t mind sharing it. I fully expect a lot of my builds to get nurfed because I found the way to make them work what might be considered “too well” lol. I don’t perfectly min-max where the numbers look great, I come up with builds and play them to and tweak them to find what the maximum damage to survivability can be. I build my characters to survive and do as much damage as possible with as much survivability as needed for outnumbered fights.

I’d rather fight against people who have good builds than people who have bad builds and aren’t learning how to play the game because of it. So many people just assume a class isn’t good because they’re using a weak build.

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

Josh XT.6053

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

Dope builds breh. You ever play Engi?

I wasn’t ever too great at Engineer, didn’t spend too much time on it but when I did, I played condi/perplexity back when that was good lol. I might try to get back in to it now that Scrapper is pretty decent for roaming.

Breh, P/P condi is so strong right now. Do it, I want to see you put your usual twist on it.

I threw my friends scrapper build on there, but modified it a little bit as far as armor/runes goes. He mains engineer so he would know better than me on what traits were better.

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Posted by: Barillaboong.8053

Barillaboong.8053

That’s a great idea!

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Posted by: Grayclay.4579

Grayclay.4579

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

Dope builds breh. You ever play Engi?

I wasn’t ever too great at Engineer, didn’t spend too much time on it but when I did, I played condi/perplexity back when that was good lol. I might try to get back in to it now that Scrapper is pretty decent for roaming.

Breh, P/P condi is so strong right now. Do it, I want to see you put your usual twist on it.

I threw my friends scrapper build on there, but modified it a little bit as far as armor/runes goes. He mains engineer so he would know better than me on what traits were better.

The blurb on your site says good access to stealth. All I see is Gyro, is there a combo I’m not seeing?

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

Josh XT.6053

I keep my builds up to date on my website in my forum signature. I think an alternative to metabattle might be a good idea though.

Dope builds breh. You ever play Engi?

I wasn’t ever too great at Engineer, didn’t spend too much time on it but when I did, I played condi/perplexity back when that was good lol. I might try to get back in to it now that Scrapper is pretty decent for roaming.

Breh, P/P condi is so strong right now. Do it, I want to see you put your usual twist on it.

I threw my friends scrapper build on there, but modified it a little bit as far as armor/runes goes. He mains engineer so he would know better than me on what traits were better.

The blurb on your site says good access to stealth. All I see is Gyro, is there a combo I’m not seeing?

Yeah, my friend used this build against me in 1v1 and that gyro kept him stealth a lot. It isn’t like Thief or Mesmer stealth up time but it is still a lot of stealth from that gyro.

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My Builds at Asphyxia.tv/builds