Guild Wars 2

250,000 kills to get a title ‘Ultimate Dominator’.

(Or escort a Dolyak 1,000,000 times – that’s ONE MILLION mind-numbingly slow pack-carriers escorted to get something slightly less hyperbolic.)

Am I missing something? I currently have about 1.2k kills after about 3 months play. I calculate I would need to play about 7,000 months – more than 500 years to get that title.

Contiguous.1345:

250,000 kills to get a title ‘Ultimate Dominator’.

(Or escort a Dolyak 1,000,000 times – that’s ONE MILLION mind-numbingly slow pack-carriers escorted to get something slightly less hyperbolic.)

Am I missing something? I currently have about 1.2k kills after about 3 months play. I calculate I would need to play about 7,000 months – more than 500 years to get that title.

1.2k kills in 3 months……
I have almost 9k in 4 months

The kills are not the problem, many people got the 250.000 kills already (especially in Tier 1 Servers).

the other titles are unreachable, though

Shakki.3219:

many people got the 250.000 kills already

Lies. That’s over 1k kills per day ..for every single day since release.

Brando.1374:

1.2k kills in 3 months……
I have almost 9k in 4 months

So it will only take you 35 – 40 years.
gz!

I average around at least 1-3 thousand kills a night depending on how much time I can get in….(work..life..etc). I think the most I have gotten in one night is around 4k kills.

I know people who are sitting on over 150k kills I believe at this point. It is very doable while it will take awhile it’s not impossible.

Nakoor.1980:

I average around at least 1-3 thousand kills a night depending on how much time I can get in….(work..life..etc). I think the most I have gotten in one night is around 4k kills.

I know people who are sitting on over 150k kills I believe at this point. It is very doable while it will take awhile it’s not impossible.

screenshots or it didn’t happen.

Look at it this way, when you do get the title, you will be ULTIMATE!

And everyone will know it… YaY!

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Nakoor.1980:

I average around at least 1-3 thousand kills a night depending on how much time I can get in….(work..life..etc). I think the most I have gotten in one night is around 4k kills.

I know people who are sitting on over 150k kills I believe at this point. It is very doable while it will take awhile it’s not impossible.

screenshots or it didn’t happen.

Alrite.

People running mass Aoe builds that do nothing but zerg v zerg will get tons of kills

Valik Shin.9027:

People running mass Aoe builds that do nothing but zerg v zerg will get tons of kills

Just add this to the list of things that make Zerging the most important skill in WvW.

Nakoor.1980:

I think the most I have gotten in one night is around 4k kills.

Lets say 8 hours play, so you claim 500 kills per hour. That’s around 1 min per kill.

It’s do-able if you get enough targets. In general I meet foes at a far lower rate – several minutes per.

I have about 80k kills and most of them come on defending our garrison on reset night. If I am on my warrior I throw down an arrow cart and just go to town until we lose it, my elly, necro, engy, and hunter usually just sit on the wall and aoe everything passing. The title I really want is defender or attacker of stonemist that will take about 15 to 20 years if you just stay in EB and do nothing else.

Contiguous.1345:

Nakoor.1980:

I think the most I have gotten in one night is around 4k kills.

Lets say 8 hours play, so you claim 500 kills per hour. That’s around 1 min per kill.

It’s do-able if you get enough targets. In general I meet foes at a far lower rate – several minutes per.

All my kills are on my guardian so I don’t tag nearly as much as some classes, though the 4k kills was on a really really good night where everyone was fighting open field.

If we can get a longass title in WvW as long as a “God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals”, then I will be very pleased. It will motivate me enough to participate in WvW.

Maybe the title can be something like 5 points for a kill, and 250 points for capturing a keep?

Whatever the case, I believe the goal of the title should be to promote legitimate WvW play rather than zerg vs zerg killfest.

Kain Francois.4328:

Whatever the case, I believe the goal of the title should be to promote legitimate WvW play rather than zerg vs zerg killfest.

It’s World v World. That implies a lot of people. Sure you can break off and go exploring, but remember the old rule from pen and paper RPG’s “don’t break up the party”.

It’s like the old argument about PvP in World of Warcraft. I always came back with “We’re called the Horde and the Alliance for a reason.” It’s not Bob and the Boys.

DevonCarver.5370:

This is on the list of things we will address soon. There are some number of titles that are extremely long term, which is fine, but I’d like for there to be ones that can be achieved in the interim. I can’t say when it will happen, but it will happen.

Thanks, it would be nice to actually see one of those titles on someone before I die. In real life, of course.

Nakoor.1980:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Nakoor.1980:

I average around at least 1-3 thousand kills a night depending on how much time I can get in….(work..life..etc). I think the most I have gotten in one night is around 4k kills.

I know people who are sitting on over 150k kills I believe at this point. It is very doable while it will take awhile it’s not impossible.

screenshots or it didn’t happen.

Alrite.

Still waiting on that screen shot.

Yeah, I’ll be back in diapers before I see any of these titles in their current form. To say some of them need to be toned down a lot is an understatement. Glad to hear you guys will be looking at them.

Now we’re talking about the titles, let’s talk about their actual names. For every single WvW title you get an Ultimate this or an Ultimate that which is just dull and plain boring to me, this while the names of the achievements sound so much better. For example, I would much rather have a title called Yakslapper instead of Ultimater Interceptor (Hell, for the Yakslapper title I wouldn’t mind escorting dolyaks thousands and thousands of times, it sounds just awesome), or A Pack Dolyak’s Best Friend over Ultimate Chaperone, or Realm Avenger instead Ultimate Dominator. And these are just the first three in the list.
Now I know it’s just a small detail but I don’t believe it’d be difficult to change these and for me at least it’d make me want to chase after these titles more.

WyldKat.4712:

Kain Francois.4328:

Whatever the case, I believe the goal of the title should be to promote legitimate WvW play rather than zerg vs zerg killfest.

It’s World v World. That implies a lot of people. Sure you can break off and go exploring, but remember the old rule from pen and paper RPG’s “don’t break up the party”.

It’s like the old argument about PvP in World of Warcraft. I always came back with “We’re called the Horde and the Alliance for a reason.” It’s not Bob and the Boys.

I’d totally join up if there was a faction called Dirty Mike and the boys..

Contiguous.1345:

250,000 kills to get a title ‘Ultimate Dominator’.

(Or escort a Dolyak 1,000,000 times – that’s ONE MILLION mind-numbingly slow pack-carriers escorted to get something slightly less hyperbolic.)

Am I missing something? I currently have about 1.2k kills after about 3 months play. I calculate I would need to play about 7,000 months – more than 500 years to get that title.

I am playing WvW since January and I just passed the 22k kills. I think the most kills atm is around 180-200k. Nobody has the title yet, but the ultimate dominator title is very doable. The other titles are insane yes. But the kills one is fine.

ps.: we once went all out farming the enemy and got 600kills in an hour. So 4k is possible if the enemy keeps coming but I doubt so. Think best I did was like 1.8-2k kills in a day and that was a loooong day.

WyldKat.4712:

Kain Francois.4328:

Whatever the case, I believe the goal of the title should be to promote legitimate WvW play rather than zerg vs zerg killfest.

It’s World v World. That implies a lot of people. Sure you can break off and go exploring, but remember the old rule from pen and paper RPG’s “don’t break up the party”.

It’s like the old argument about PvP in World of Warcraft. I always came back with “We’re called the Horde and the Alliance for a reason.” It’s not Bob and the Boys.

I’d totally join up if there was a faction called Dirty Mike and the boys..

Sorry if someone else has mentioned this. The titles should be tiered. Most every title in the game would benefit from tiering like in GW1. Have 10-15 levels to a title, so that anyone can have some form of it. But the more extreme players can reach the “unreachable” tier that everyone else thinks will take years to complete. Just like the titles in guild wars 1 (especially the PvP ones, after many people spent years grinding PvP, only a few people reached the highest tier of the titles).

Celtus.8456:

Sorry if someone else has mentioned this. The titles should be tiered. Most every title in the game would benefit from tiering like in GW1. Have 10-15 levels to a title, so that anyone can have some form of it. But the more extreme players can reach the “unreachable” tier that everyone else thinks will take years to complete. Just like the titles in guild wars 1 (especially the PvP ones, after many people spent years grinding PvP, only a few people reached the highest tier of the titles).

This^^

A straight kill-numbers title is unfair to players on low pop servers. I just adds yet another reason to transfer.

Not a lot of thought went into this Anet.

just because ultimate dominator is doable by people who stay in zergs in T1 and don’t know how to fight outside of those zergs doesn’t mean its doable for the entire population of gw2

I do not play with the zerg, other than I’d say maybe 1% of the time when I am drinking and bored or tired. I also don’t give a kitten about the titles, I do think its kind of silly to have carrots that only kittenty zerglings can ever reach though. Laughable really. Anet tell us more about how you favor unskilled zergs.

DevonCarver.5370:

This is on the list of things we will address soon. There are some number of titles that are extremely long term, which is fine, but I’d like for there to be ones that can be achieved in the interim. I can’t say when it will happen, but it will happen.

Maybe you could make it similar like pvp titles.
It would be good to give lower titles for the lower levels of each achievement. For example for kills: You now need 250K kills for the sixth level to get the Ultimate dominator. This one will be achieved only by few most www focused players and in long term.
You now need 50K kills for the fifth level. In the change you could get the title Dominator. 50K can be reached faster – it is still long term, but www focused player could get it in one year instead of 5.
You could get even for the fourth level, which needs 10K kill, tittle like Apprentice dominator, which could be reached by anyone.
And similar for all other www achieves. This could motivate everyone to try to get some www title.

ChesterWing.5321:

just because ultimate dominator is doable by people who stay in zergs in T1 and don’t know how to fight outside of those zergs doesn’t mean its doable for the entire population of gw2

The ultimate dominator title needs to be renamed to ultimate t1 zerger.
They should add a 2nd category for solo kills or kills in a small grp, etc.

Contiguous.1345:

Lets say 8 hours play, so you claim 500 kills per hour. That’s around 1 min per kill.

That’s the wrong scale, you never do single kills to reach the high numbers.
You do 50kills in 30secs and 5min later you do the next 50kills in 30secs

If two zergs with 60 ppl hit each other and fight till dead, every (AoE-) player on the winner side will have earned up to 60 kills within 30 secs. And don’t forget 60 kills does not require 60 dead! In the above zerg vs zerg there are only 60 dead but this counts as a total of 3600 (60 kills for each of the 60 winners) kills!

Dayra.7405:

Contiguous.1345:

Lets say 8 hours play, so you claim 500 kills per hour. That’s around 1 min per kill.

That’s the wrong scale, you never do single kills to reach the high numbers.
You do 50kills in 30secs and 5min later you do the next 50kills in 30secs

And what’s missing in your scale is down-time.

While getting 50-60 kills in under a minute is possible in the right conditions, what’s NOT possible is that you experience this every 5 minutes, all day, every day… for 7+ months.

Which is pretty much what’s required for those kind of numbers.

4 zerg vs zerg fights per hour should be possible during prime-time.
(and I remember several 3 way fights inside an opened keep where they were much more frequent)

If you are a GW2-junkie and do this 3 hours a day (some days with less, but much more on weekends and in holidays) thats 600 kills per day or 417 days to get the title.

WvW Ultimate titles are the real legendaries in this game. They should put a badge on the character select page for them.

lunatuna.6823:

WvW Ultimate titles are the real legendaries in this game. They should put a badge on the character select page for them.

NO. BAD. I just finished my account badges

Viking Jorun.5413:

lunatuna.6823:

WvW Ultimate titles are the real legendaries in this game. They should put a badge on the character select page for them.

NO. BAD. I just finished my account badges

You know there are going to be more badges at some point, at least when we get the first expansion.