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Posted by: OchrisO.8450

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About 15mins ago we did a sneak attack on whiteside ridge garrison via water gate, we go into the inner and there was only 3 people defending then all of a suddon 10+ defenders used the waypoint to get it when the was a fight how is this fair?

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

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You must have let the Garrison become un-contested for a bit. (Maybe the “defend” event stopped while you were running from watergate to inner, allowing all the defenders to WP.

How it is fair:
Well they spent the time making sure a WP was built, you should have had someone making sure that every 2minutes 50 seconds someone hit a door to reset the status. (Maybe it’s 2:55 not 2:50 but the point is the same.)

Also Would you rather PvDoor? As you stated there were only 3 defenders.

The only thing else is they could have Waypointed to spawn, and spent about 30-40seconds running into Garrison.

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Posted by: OchrisO.8450

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we were at the inner before they even seen us and its not fair just becaue htey spent time and money getting it dose not mean they can use it when they are about the loose it :S dont no how its fair it defeats the paln of a sneak attack :/ also we got from outter to inner in 30 seconds

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Posted by: Supersun.4603

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Attacking the inner garrison water gate door doesn’t contest the garrison. If you are making sneak attack on the garrison from the water gate and want to keep it contested you need someone to poke another gate to stop it from uncontesting.

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Posted by: Azariah.8420

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on a side note even if it is contested there is a small window(10 or so seconds) between the defense events(when one ends, it takes a tiny amount of time to trigger again) where it is usable anyway.

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Posted by: Supersun.4603

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10 seconds?

Try more like 1.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

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on a side note even if it is contested there is a small window(10 or so seconds) between the defense events(when one ends, it takes a tiny amount of time to trigger again) where it is usable anyway.

Try 1 second if not 1/2 a second.

It’s nothing like 10seconds.

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Posted by: Bdsteelers.2567

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Ever think a mesmer ported them in they cant waypoint in combat they prob got ported in or ran from another ent

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Posted by: Kirito.3591

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There is about a .5-1 sec window to use the WP while the keep/garrison is contested. It helps if you have someone do a countdown and watch the map for when it becomes available again.

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Posted by: OchrisO.8450

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i understand what you are all saying, but from teh start of the attack to inner took us 30 seconds, so the event had only just started and we made sure it was always contested, so i still dont undersatnd how they can wp in when we are fighting, and they didnt mesmer portal in as there was no mesmers, its sad that its so messed up

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Posted by: Juxtapositronic.1405

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If you can’t take a keep with 10 defenders you don’t deserve to have the keep. Sorry.

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Posted by: Ilesyt.7084

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Ever think a mesmer ported them in they cant waypoint in combat they prob got ported in or ran from another ent

Mesmer portal people into your own Garrison, GENIUS!

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

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If it only took 30seconds, then they didn’t WP to the Garrison.
Sounds like they WP’d to citadel, and ran off the cliffs to Garrison.

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Posted by: OchrisO.8450

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we saw them come in via the wp and how didnt we deservs it? they were buffed to hell + fully upgreaded we only had 7 peopel in

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Posted by: Grumpdogg.6910

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If you had enough people to knock down a gate in less than 30 seconds, you have enough people to handle 10 defenders.

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Posted by: Juxtapositronic.1405

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If you want to “ninja” a keep that doesn’t mean you take it while nobody is there to defend; it means you take it while the defenders are distracted so they don’t even notice.

SoS “ninja’d” our Garrison once, even though we had an active presence inside. How? They distracted us, got our forces focused on Bay and seized a golden opportunity. They out-maneuvered and out-played us.

We didn’t let it happen again, at least not on my watch, but it was frustrating and deserved. If you want to take a keep that has no defenders then great! But if they suddenly appear and you die don’t complain on the forums; use the time to figure out what happened, how it happened, and how you can counteract it.

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