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Posted by: Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Dragon Title Hunter.9176

They need to change the dungeons in WvWvW. How are you meant to enjoy the dungeon, when as soon as you get in 15-20 enemies are waiting for you at the bottom and are trying to pull you off so you can’t even map out.

This has messed up this dungeon and now I will have to slowly make the badges for my weapon.

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Posted by: Cactus.2710

Cactus.2710

Say what? You mean you might actually have to PvP to get your PvP badges? Such injustice!!

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Posted by: Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Dragon Title Hunter.9176

The fastest way I know of to get them is the dungeons in WvWvW with enmeies at the main puzzle it will take months to make 500 of them off just players.

As an update they are now using arrow carts so as soon as yo are in you are hit.

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Posted by: Skapocalypse.5236

Skapocalypse.5236

The fastest way I know of to get them is the dungeons in WvWvW with enmeies at the main puzzle it will take months to make 500 of them off just players.

Months? Try more like maybe 2 or 3 weeks at most if you actually help your server out.

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Posted by: Moddo.7105

Moddo.7105

The fastest way I know of to get them is the dungeons in WvWvW with enmeies at the main puzzle it will take months to make 500 of them off just players.

As an update they are now using arrow carts so as soon as yo are in you are hit.

If you stop avoiding pvp and learn to be able to kill people you can earn 10x more badges. I earn about 50 a hour if doing so big stand off fights.

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Posted by: Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Dragon Title Hunter.9176

in a day off just kill enmeies I made 7 and that was over 4 hours playing. It would take 71 day’s to get 500. I’d love to know how you get it in 2-3 weeks with out dungeons.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

You want badges,fight for them.Jp has no place in wvwvw,i honestly wish it would be removed already.

@ dragon..then kill more,do more wvwvwv and join the zergs, 7 in 4 hours playing….i think i have 7 in a few minutes.

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Posted by: Moddo.7105

Moddo.7105

in a day off just kill enmeies I made 7 and that was over 4 hours playing. It would take 71 day’s to get 500. I’d love to know how you get it in 2-3 weeks with out dungeons.

Make sure you are in a group too. Every person group kills and you have hit you will get a bag for.

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Posted by: Skapocalypse.5236

Skapocalypse.5236

in a day off just kill enmeies I made 7 and that was over 4 hours playing. It would take 71 day’s to get 500. I’d love to know how you get it in 2-3 weeks with out dungeons.

Do more damage and don’t roam by yourself. Don’t attempt to stomp enemies that are down when your zerg is overrunning them just auto attack down players and you’ll do enough damage to warrant badges. Taking supply camps and towers and killing the guild claimers nets you 1-2 badges each time. So grab 2-3 friends and cap supply camps on maps. Your helping your server and you’ll get more badges then you know what to do with.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

in a day off just kill enmeies I made 7 and that was over 4 hours playing. It would take 71 day’s to get 500. I’d love to know how you get it in 2-3 weeks with out dungeons.

It’s class dependent. Just depends on you getting into a party and then how well your class can do ranged aoe.

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Posted by: Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Dragon Title Hunter.9176

I do get a load of drop just very really do I get badges

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

It should be 1/8 bags gives you a badge drop. With a rate like that though… you’ll often have long periods of time without getting any. The mystic forge is 1/5 for an upgrade and we all know how that goes… so WvW has a worse chance than that… expect random long badge droughts : /

This is why I keep saying they need to remove the badges from the kitten jumping (portal me up) puzzles and put them into actual WvW. Give them to us for capturing points as a daily. Leave the greens and toss 1 more siege in the chest.

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Posted by: Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Aberrant I like you reply, I do get badges very slowly in WvW and only use the puzzles as way to get them faster. Once I have what I need I can enjoy WvW with out having to go for badges.

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Posted by: Dhampyr.2104

Dhampyr.2104

Aberrant I like you reply, I do get badges very slowly in WvW and only use the puzzles as way to get them faster. Once I have what I need I can enjoy WvW with out having to go for badges.

Just enjoy WvW now. Why wait? It’s pretty fun if you don’t get wrapped around the axle and think you lost the game because the other team killed you – and also if you don’t get too focused on loot drops.

Believe me, as long as you remember to pick the daggone loot bags up, the badges will come. :-)

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Posted by: Handin.4032

Handin.4032

People in my server always say this in chat:
“Lots of people camping JP. Can anyone come help? I need my badges!”
Here is what I tell them:
“We’re defending _ (or attacking _). Leave the JP for now, kill some people, get some free badges and go in at a different time”

The badges are for killing people in WvW. The jumping puzzle is in the WvW environment, that means that the JP IS WvW! It’s something people never seem to grasp. The jumping puzzle isn’t meant for a PvE farm, or they wouldn’t have put it in a WvW environment, and it wouldn’t give WvW rewards. If you want WvW badges, play some WvW. It is by far the fastest way to get them. Yes you get very few on a per kill basis, but in good action, if you get 80 kills, then you have a good chance of getting bags!

As long as the JP is in WvW, people will camp it. It is easy kills for people who very often don’t know how to effectively fight other players and just trying to farm badges without doing anything effective for their server. But I like that, because it means less enemies defending the towers I’m trying to take!

If you say people shouldn’t be able to camp the JP and kill people, then, by rights, it shouldn’t give any WvW rewards, since it is no longer in a WvW environment, and then it won’t give you badges.

What exactly are you trying to get with farming badges? Is it just the armor? If that is the case, find another pair with similar/same stats for now, and do WvW (shocking, yes) to get the WvW armor for the skins or specific stats. If its for the legendary, you’ll still do better off killing people for badges while people camp (they rarely camp it 24/7 since Ive noticed its mostly the same people/guilds) and then go back to the JP.

Sitting there and getting farmed in the JP while saying its unfair isn’t getting you badges any faster than joining in some action with camps, towers or keeps. I’m sorry ,but that’s just the truth. Farming badges with JP isn’t faster when people camp it, and people will camp it since it is a WvW zone and they can get easy kills. (When I do it, and I kill people in it (only if they attack first mostly), I just use my knockbacks or pulls and get instant kills, and thus instant badges). The enemy don’t want you to get all the nice free siege! The free kills is just a side bonus!

It isn’t unfair in anyway. It’s WvW, and working exactly as designed.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Or is the correct answer: Roll a DDele/thief and speed around the map ready to gank unsuspecting solo travellers for your 50 badges an hour rate.

Best answer: Get in a group, run camp to camp flipping. Super will drop badges, and with a 5 man team you will be able to contend with just about any enemies you come across (avoiding their zerg, naturally.)

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

Or is the correct answer: Roll a DDele/thief and speed around the map ready to gank unsuspecting solo travellers for your 50 badges an hour rate.

Best answer: Get in a group, run camp to camp flipping. Super will drop badges, and with a 5 man team you will be able to contend with just about any enemies you come across (avoiding their zerg, naturally.)

Yes please run around on a DD ele/thief. I need more badges from people who think they can just try gank me and run away if they fail.

Super’s don’t drop badges that often. I have gotten some nice $ rewards from the bags the ogres/moles drop in EB though.

I guess for some it’s just a matter of finding something easy/useful to do in the mean time while waiting for some one to say “mesmer portal up in the jp”

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Posted by: Adult Magazine.9052

Adult Magazine.9052

Quit whining, I get about 50 to 70 badges a day killing. I don’t do the jp and if I do it’s when i’m low on seige. The amount of time you spend complaining on here or getting killed in the jp you could be out getting kills and earning badges.

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Posted by: Absconditus.6804

Absconditus.6804

As others have stated, best bet is to keep going for “objectives”; capture camps, towers, keeps with your server. The “boss” will give you a couple badges for your effort. If you’re able to play at off-peak hours, that is usually a good time to do jumping puzzles, if you wish to do those as well for some additional badges. For the one in Eternal Battlegrounds, there are also invisibility wells that you can use to make yourself invisible as you traverse the puzzle, or you can of course rely on a Mesmer, should there be one there, to portal you up near the chest.

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

The fastest way I know of to get them is the dungeons in WvWvW with enmeies at the main puzzle it will take months to make 500 of them off just players.

As an update they are now using arrow carts so as soon as yo are in you are hit.

I at first thought this was the only way to get badges. (thanks to a youtbe video that said that). But if you do the highest amount of damage to say a camp supervisor bam to. Also if you 1v1 someone then you will prolly get them if you win. I will be honest… Jumping puzzles should only be done in WvW if your server owns everything on the map… If not there is another way to get badges in WvW its called PARTICIPATION.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

The fastest way I know of to get them is the dungeons in WvWvW with enmeies at the main puzzle it will take months to make 500 of them off just players.

As an update they are now using arrow carts so as soon as yo are in you are hit.

didnt take months for me to get 500 badge it really depends which commander u follow! I make around 40 to 60 badges a day if not more just by running with our commander.

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Posted by: Richard Nixon.6573

Richard Nixon.6573

If you absolutely need to do the JP, run a mesmer and use all the stealth utilities (decoy, veil, and MI are enough). Use veil on the platform before you jump off, decoy (but turn off auto-targeting beforehand) and then MI. You can easily fall off the cliff that goes to the first stealth fountain before you render for them. Then you can just use the stealth fountains to get to the dark room and not worry.

But you really should help your server out. My advice to you is to defend landmarks with siege (arrow carts and cannons are my favorites). The aoe damage is insane, people generally aren’t smart enough to avoid all of it, and you get tons of loot. If they break through, you just run away and find the next place to defend. You’ll get tons of loot, and switch it up to join your server’s zerg in the area. Cap some places, defend others, and you’ll get tons of badges without pve-ing for them :P

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Posted by: snacktime.1082

snacktime.1082

The badges are for killing people in WvW. The jumping puzzle is in the WvW environment, that means that the JP IS WvW! It’s something people never seem to grasp. The jumping puzzle isn’t meant for a PvE farm, or they wouldn’t have put it in a WvW environment, and it wouldn’t give WvW rewards.

This

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Posted by: Quentin Fields.1295

Quentin Fields.1295

Since when do we have dungeons in WvW?Am i missing something?

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Posted by: BlueViking.7105

BlueViking.7105

I get so happy every time i see threads like these. Please never remove this puzzle or the badges in the reward, its pretty much the only carebear tear harvester in the game.

Off to camp some more!

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Posted by: Psychatog.8246

Psychatog.8246

yeah JP IS unfair, we should get perma siege in the JP, so pvpers can farm their badges off of the pvers more easily.

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Posted by: aelfric.8536

aelfric.8536

I have an other question about WvW loot: Can we get dyes from other invaders?

Sorry for not that good english. I’m swiss.

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Posted by: Nidome.1365

Nidome.1365

What rubbish. Participation does not equal badges. One day this week I spent 17 hours in WvW and got a massive 5 badges. I also got a whole load of “spikes” and other assorted junk (although the treb blueprints came in handy).
Participation isn’t just running around as part of a zerg or camp flipping party – it is also (amongst other things):
1) Scouting the enemy
2) Upgrading Towers/Keeps/Camps
3) Repairing Towers/Keeps after a battle – usually a thankless task involving vast quantities of time running back and forth to camps after your defensive zerg has moved on.
4) Building defensive siege
5) Building offensive siege
6) Sniping Dolyaks
7) Being the only person sitting around in a tower watching & waiting (If you don’t understand why this is important, then I hope thyat you are on an enemy server)

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Posted by: Quentin Fields.1295

Quentin Fields.1295

If you just play WvW for the count of the badge loots you are doing it wrong.

You need to do everything Nidome said here and badges will come to you as a bonus without recognizing.

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Posted by: zastari.1730

zastari.1730

If you just play WvW for the count of the badge loots you are doing it wrong.

You need to do everything Nidome said here and badges will come to you as a bonus without recognizing.

Yes, let’s all stop and bask in the glory of the ultimate WvW meta. A herd of scouts, 2 people positioned at every sentry, dolyak, supply camp, tower, and keep — They sit bored waiting for a nonexistent, misinformed roamer to come by and feed them a badge. A dead person in each spawn that infiltrator arrowed/blinked in — sitting in wait to corpse scout for golems or breakouts and salvaging an item every time they are about to drop from inactivity. A roaming zerg going from map to map trying to build golems somewhere invisible to portal train into a tower or keep and drop it before anyone notices.

What an exciting game!!! A bunch of people sitting doing nothing and a bunch of people porting supply in from their home BL and spamming F to build while a herd of mesmers drop portals for golems. All because the dominant meta of this game is nothing but a game of golem hide-and-seek.

kitten that, I’ll take slaughtering bads for badges instead.

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Posted by: Dragon Title Hunter.9176

Dragon Title Hunter.9176

I wanted 500 badges for the Gift of Battle, to make a Legendary weapon.

I guess last night I was more p’ed because I couldn’t do want I wanted to at the time. I’ll just have to take it a bit slower and not rush it (and try to enjoy the game more).

It’s not like the game is going to be going anywhere so, I don’t really have to rush to save up and collect want I need.

Also thank you for all the replies.

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Posted by: waeren.9743

waeren.9743

I’ve gotten 150+ in an evening. Doing jp isn’t worth it.

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Posted by: Hyde.6189

Hyde.6189

I wanted 500 badges for the Gift of Battle, to make a Legendary weapon.

There’s a reason it’s called the “Gift of Battle” and not the “Gift of Jumping”. You should expect to have to fight people to get it, whether that’s killing people for badges or fighting your way through other players in the jumping puzzles.

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Posted by: Nidome.1365

Nidome.1365

If you just play WvW for the count of the badge loots you are doing it wrong.

You need to do everything Nidome said here and badges will come to you as a bonus without recognizing.

Yes, let’s all stop and bask in the glory of the ultimate WvW meta. A herd of scouts, 2 people positioned at every sentry, dolyak, supply camp, tower, and keep — They sit bored waiting for a nonexistent, misinformed roamer to come by and feed them a badge. A dead person in each spawn that infiltrator arrowed/blinked in — sitting in wait to corpse scout for golems or breakouts and salvaging an item every time they are about to drop from inactivity. A roaming zerg going from map to map trying to build golems somewhere invisible to portal train into a tower or keep and drop it before anyone notices.

What an exciting game!!! A bunch of people sitting doing nothing and a bunch of people porting supply in from their home BL and spamming F to build while a herd of mesmers drop portals for golems. All because the dominant meta of this game is nothing but a game of golem hide-and-seek.

kitten that, I’ll take slaughtering bads for badges instead.

So all you want to do is zerg around fighting? Good for you, after all without people doing that we wouldn’t take anything and have trouble defending sometimes.
Just don’t complain when you are loosing towers because they aren’t upgraded or repaired, or complain when you are attacking the enemy and find yourself dying beacuse they have upgraded or repaired since the last attack and actually have defenders present.
Now I’m not saying that we should have "A herd of scouts, 2 people positioned at every sentry, dolyak, supply camp, tower, and keep " – what I am saying that if there is someone present at a tower when it is attacked then you are a lot less likely to loose it, If your side is planning an attack, a scout is useful etc..
Now the duties I listed are useful, and on some occasions can be essential. Please do not discourage or insult those who on occasion are willing to do these things or suggest that they should be due less reward for doing this because their contribution is just as important as yours.

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Posted by: Quentin Fields.1295

Quentin Fields.1295

@ zastari ; Try to remember and if you can’t remember watch it again.Gladiator movie , first scenes.The war between Romans and Germans.

Your mentality is the Germans here , battle crys and mindless attacking zergs.Nidome and mine is Romans here , with scouts , small groups , flankers , sieges etc.

This is exactly same in this game.A mindless zerg of 50-60 can be beaten down by 20-30 organized.

This is how WvW becomes more fun.This is why we don’t whine that WvW is bad boring etc.

“kitten that, I’ll take slaughtering bads for badges instead.”

Do that and soon you will join the bandwagon.Which is “i got bored now quitting the game”