Guild Wars 2

Has there been any Optimization towards WvWvW since 2013/2014?

I stopped playing back then because it was not even possible for me to do anything when a wave of players appeared on my monitor.

Would switching from a AMD to a NVIDIA graphics card make any kind of difference?

Entellex.3082:

Would switching from a AMD to a NVIDIA graphics card make any kind of difference?

er not at all if you are running the latest generation of graphics cards, should both be overkill. If you are talking about an older generation of cards and that is all your system can run and thinking of switching brands within that generation, may as well smash the system to pcs and get a new system. That’s the price of playing modern casual themepark mmo’s tied to item shops, if you can’t afford a system to play the lolgraphics intense game, likely not willing to spend huge $$$$$$ in the item shop.

I will try WvW once again. I currently have a R9 270

I’ve been able to play mostly every other game with no problems, so that is why I haven’t bothered buying a new card.

I have essentially the same graphics card. It’s not the GPU that’s your problem. Much of the game is CPU based, so likely that’s your bottleneck. Intel CPUs generally perform better in this regard as most games are single thread, where Intel excels. However, even if you have an AMD CPU (as I do, 8350) you should still be fine.

A potential issue for either brand of CPU is that the cores are being parked, or turned off when they aren’t needed. When that blog rolls around on screen, for CPU now has to open up the cores again to push the new info through. This takes some time, and can be a cause of heavy lag during play. There are some applications that can unpark your cores, which will eliminate that unparking time. There also might be settings you can change on your motherboard during startup that will have a similar effect. Check out some guides or get help if your unsure how to do either of those things.

In my case, I technically might get 11 fps during a large 3 server fight, but my effective fps is more like in the 40s. I can still fluidly see everything and react to it the entire time. Before unparking my cores, when a large blob would appear, my fps would shoot down to 5 and I’d basically lose control of my character until my CPU caught up, at which point I’d be okay. However, the process would repeat every time a new blob appeared, or running around the hubs in LA, or the like. The first minute or two of an engagement are crucial, so you could see how this is a problem, and I’m sure you’re experiencing something similar. Between that and some graphical settings (Shadows set to none, and I like character model amount set to highest, but quality set to second lowest. There’s a few others that have a big impact), you should be able to run sufficiently well in wvw blob fights.

Daywolf.2630:

Entellex.3082:

Would switching from a AMD to a NVIDIA graphics card make any kind of difference?

er not at all if you are running the latest generation of graphics cards, should both be overkill. If you are talking about an older generation of cards and that is all your system can run and thinking of switching brands within that generation, may as well smash the system to pcs and get a new system. That’s the price of playing modern casual themepark mmo’s tied to item shops, if you can’t afford a system to play the lolgraphics intense game, likely not willing to spend huge $$$$$$ in the item shop.

IDK about that.

A lot of people prefer to play games on laptops, for example.

It’s far more comfortable, for one thing.

Doesn’t mean they won’t ever buy anything from a cash shop.

Also, in my experience, a lot of people who spend a lot on one thing, like computers (or cars, or mountain bikes, or jewellery, or handbags, or whatever…), often don’t tend to have any cash left for anything else!

So, it’s actually a false assumption to assume that, just because someone can afford one thing they can, automatically, afford everything else.

Or that, just because someone doesn’t spend a fortune on one thing, it doesn’t mean they won’t spend on anything else.

It’s the strength of you CPU that determines how acceptable WvW is for you.

@Ghotistyx, @Behellagh

CPU: Intel i7 4790K
GPU: Radeon 29 270
RAM: HyperX Fury 8GB

I can’t remember the FPS I had last time I tried WvW

Well since the i7 4790k came out June 2014, that wasn’t the CPU you were using in 2013/2014.

When I first quit I had a AMD A6, but I attempted to try WvW even after.

intel processor works better than amd for gw2

A6 with a 270 is fine, 4790k is absolutely golden. Your CPU and GPU are more than enough. It’s likely a combination of graphical settings that is eating more bandwidth then you want, and parked cores IMO.

@SkyShroud Yes, this I know.

@Ghotistyx Meh.

Guess I’ll have to mess around with settings. I still might end up getting a Nvidia graphics card anyways…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Found-a-solution-to-get-better-Fps

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/guides/basics/guild-wars-2-tweak-guide-0

https://m.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2tqf66/guild_wars_2_performance_guide_how_to_get_the/

If you play on a t1/t2 server, and are regularly fighting large blobs you will want a strong graphics card, I personally recommend nvidia. In my experience they perform better, last longer and are generally more convenient in terms of price, size, power supply reqs, heating etc.
One great card is the Geforce GTX 750 ti, its small, powerful, runs quiet and cool, has a low power supply req only 300w which is standard for most desktops so you wont need to buy an extra power supply AMD/ATI cards generally have a very high PS req and consumption, and has a decent price for what you get out of it.

AMD is the better choice at or under ~$300, so unless you’re getting a 980 or above. AMD also destroys nVidia at higher resolutions at the same price point (1440P+). Lastly, there’s no reason to buy a 750ti these days when a 270x is much more powerful and like $10 more. Honestly, nVidia makes nice GPUs, but AMD is a great/better choice in many/most situations these days. Also, the heat/longevity/quality of your card will be a factor of the brand (MSI, EVGA, Sapphire, etc), not AMD or nVidia.

All of that being said, GPU isn’t really that important at all. An R7 260X or 750ti should be more then enough to ruin this game on ultra if you have a clocked i5 or i7 to go with it.

I could say that about any other game. I have the original 270, not the 270x and it plays pretty much every game on High/Ultra. Guild Wars 2 though? Nah, lol. At least not WvW. I’ll have to try again, maybe some optimization was done through Gw2 or the current drivers for AMD.

Tigaseye.2047:

So, it’s actually a false assumption to assume that, just because someone can afford one thing they can, automatically, afford everything else.

Nah doesn’t work like that etc. Certainly someone with a 3gen old putter is less likely to spend money in the cash shop compared to potentially those that have the latest and greatest, at least the potential cash cows among them. It’s about being “invested” in that the guy with the new system is going to be willing to spend more to get everything he can get out of his hobby he is already invested in. Cash shops don’t target everyone (notice the prices are not low), not even everyone with the best computer systems, but certainly those in that bracket that are % wise potentially the big fish.

That’s why you have most sub based games (that are left) that are not just surviving off cash shops, they have gentler system demands. In those cases, they want the largest pool of players to all support the game and company by the month with that sub (the old traditional approach), rather than fishing for the few big spenders to dump $1000’s into the high priced cash shops, and they do make money at that. It’s all down to a science.

So, best to just spend the cash for the top-end card here. My pick is Nvidia, they have far better dev tools if you are into that stuff. But does it matter which? no not really, not at top end as gw2 is likely well tested and optimized for both those manufacturers regarding their current leading cards.

Not necessarily. Someone with an old gaming rig may not be able to toss $100s into improving it due to their situation but tossing $10 for a game on sale on Steam or for gems, no problem.

Behellagh.1468:

Not necessarily. Someone with an old gaming rig may not be able to toss $100s into improving it due to their situation but tossing $10 for a game on sale on Steam or for gems, no problem.

I’d suggest go dig around sites like gamasutra and GDC promoted sites where they talk about this stuff, you’ll become better informed in time. If it were just about a little here and there, the industry would still mostly be subscription based, and the target would be a wider spectrum of system performances. But it’s not. All this stuff is no secret.