WvWvW situation in Fissure of Woe
I am sorry to be the one to tell you this, but since the server transfers are still free, if you care about pvp you should move. In many games there are servers where very few care about PvP, except those games don’t need your server to fight united against other servers. In this case, no fix is possible other than you accepting that your server is a 88% PvE server. Time to move <3
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ç.ç but all italians are on fissure (for this is the last IMHO) so for me is more easy doing everything, pvp and pve… time to learn more english
As an HoD player….Transfer to SBI they need longer ques XD
The non-existent green (Ruins of Surmia) is ahead of you in the match-up and putting up more of a fight against blues.
It matters little though since Dzagonur had lots of WvW guilds transfer over and steamrolls everything. Worst thing is that if Miller’s Sound drops back to this match-up and Dzagonur goes up, they’ll probably hop on Miller’s and keep repeating the easy wins.
Free transfers broke WvW and 24 hour cooldown doesn’t matter. All the big WvW guilds left RoS. Small organized ones and some community/zerg leaders with Commander are left. A long rebuilding ahead if some alliance doesn’t transfer over and basically make the server famous as theirs. Thanks Anet but I think we could’ve done without transfers even though you couldn’t get the guesting in for launch…. Adjust match-ups by hand by looking at transfer data since you have so few servers anyway.
(edited by Ksielvin.1587)
Im on Ruins of Surmia and we are also having a hard time against the blitzkrieg of the germans. If i may give you an advise as to get something started on your server. This is what i have been doing and works quite well.
Ask in chat if people want to join your 5 man party to take camp/guards and Quaggen camps. Most people online do really want to play and attack stuff. Start attacking the smaller objectives that you can handle. People start to notice that and will join in. Keep communicating in chat but don’t rage or command people to do anything. Tell them what your doing and where you are headed. That’s where the chat is for.
Within an hour we had 25+ people attacking and taking 2 towers and the garrison. Then we encountered the Dragonzur and had a hard time. It may be hard to believe but you have to educate your server. Start a spark and people will join in. But be nice and clear towards other people.
Even do you may not win this matchup keep trying. Get better, faster and keep morale up.
Ruins of Surmia here,
The other day, about 7 of us got together to attack a keep on our borderlands. We got smashed from behind by a giant zerg, but about 10 minutes later, blue was attacking our last keep with 7 catapaults. Not sure if I should be annoyed, or complimented by that.
Also, I almost forgot FoW existed for a while, considering you have been doing worse than us most of the time. Was sort of happy it was you attacking our supply camps earlier and not them.
I’ve been admiring the “Kaineng Fights” style movement NA has going on forums for their last server. Most people have sympathy for underdogs so just getting some attention could help.
“Use the free transfers, take a day’s vacation on Fissure of Woe or Ruins of Surmia! No qeueus! Room to bring your whole guild! Friendly natives! Lots of objectives to take for rewards! Hold them, build them up, and the enemy zergs WILL come to give you defense event rewards and die on your siege! Plenty to fight!”
I’m italian and i play in Fissure of Woe,
To be honest i like to be the underdog of the situation but this is more, we’re not underdogs we’re victims of a really sad situation. Our server lacks any type of organization, commander or WvWvW guild and the fault is ours, just ours.
We managed to kick back Dzagonur players sometimes with just a little more of organization. The only thing i want to complain about is the stat adavantage, with our numbers there is no possibility we can take our orb of power back, we are less and we are weak.
I think that there should be a little stat advantage on outnumbered servers, not just experience, karma and magic find.
Anyway, i hope that more FoW players read this and come help us into the battlefield.
I wish good luck to Surmia too.
Dzagonur was just like FoW and RoS before some WvW guilds transferred. I can tell you its not that much fun for the dominating side either because it’s hard to find enemies and once you do chances are they’ll get steamrolled by other players anyway.
The WvW system is just broken right now.
Mmm i think on this and i’ve an idea.
Like other MMORPG (don’t say name) with similar mechanichs (wintergrasp say nothing?) maybe Arenanet can add a buff (boon) that increase stat of a player by x% based on the numeric disvantage of his team.
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Example Blue team have 500 ppl, Red team have 501 ppl buff = nothing
Blue team have 500 ppl, Red team have 520 ppl buff = x% for all blue player
Blue team have 500 ppl, Red team have 540 ppl buff = 2x% for all blue player
Blue team have 500 ppl, Red team have 480 ppl buff = x% for all red player
ect
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In other mmorpg this mechanics help but, for my experience the team with more player win always (but the game is more balanced than nothing..) and maybe in a more more more big map can help more than the map of other mmorpg.
I have been pestering my guild, The Valour Legion, to transfer off Gandara to a low pop server since launch, so that we can do organized wvw with guild groups. I finally succeeded a few days ago and we transferred to RoS.
I must say i love WvW on Ros. We are few, but very organized. Everyone follows orders and in primetime we actually push back Dzagonur. The only problem is we can only do this in one zone, the other 3 will always be lost. Also in off peak hours we will again lose everything and the next day we have to start from scratch. Personally i don’t mind this, as the wvw that we do have is awesome.
The problem is that generally speaking RoS is a ghost town, and if you want to do PvE, you’re alone on the map. This is the reason i am incapable of keeping my guild here. Playing outside of peak hours is impossible, and those in the guild who do this don’t want to stay anymore. You can’t PvP cause you are solo against the german zerg, and you can’t do serious PvE cause there is no-one to do it with.
Unfortunately i see no way out of this unless more organized guilds transfer to RoS, and until then we will be moving out. It’s sad, cause i really like the people on this server.
@Babanovac: Dzagonur was EXACTLY like that a few weeks ago.
Also, since this thread was about FoW, yeah, you guys are doing even worse than RoS. And there is no way out of it, since whatever server will replace Dzagonur will have more people than RoS and FoW combined.
I feel sorry they somewhat ruined your server too, Celes. I really wouldn’t want to be in your situation. Boring, frustrating overdog. How are the queues? Do you need to queue to camp outside citadel walls at worst?
Those guilds will also ditch your server when you get matched against more relevant opponents. Then you’ll get crushed there until dropping down.
I would like to propose that you guys invade the Blue corner of EB instead of coming our way (RoS) whenever you manage to push back Blue, which happens when we’re busy fighting blue. I love taking their fully upgraded towers.
Frankly, I would love to create an alliance between our servers.
Ruins of Surmia
I consider the 2 weaker servers to always be in an alliance of opportunity automatically. You can never get all the randoms to act that way of course but not seeking out new fights vs red even when they would occasionally be available. Defending anything I consider ours.
I have also been able to leave most FoW players alone in jumping puzzles and they have left me alone.
FoW here, is not the fact that we suck, its just that nobody plays WvW in FoW, or at least a minority plays it.
The free World transfer ruined WvW period! People like to kill and kill and win, so they just move to the winning server.
We need a change ASAP to the system. there is no point in playing WvW at the moment. The max i saw yesterday was like 4 or 5 guys playing representing FoW.