Guild Wars 2

I’m at 98% world completion. I’d be at 99% if I cared to finish off the last zone, but seeing as it doesn’t matter until I do my WvW I’ve just stopped trying.

I’m on Sanctum of Rall, and Blackgate seems to be green every single time the scores update.

I believe that once every 3 or 5 days everyone’s colors should alternate, regardless of their score. Sanctum of Rall is pretty high up on the WvW scoreboard, but we keep just missing Blackgate and thus we are continuously blue. I was lucky enough, 6 or 7 weeks ago, to get Red’s exploration done when we managed to push Isle of Janthir back for a couple of hours, but I can’t seem to find a time (if there is one) where we push Blue out of their base.

This is QQ, but I’ve spent over 2 months trying to get 100% Eternal Battlegrounds completion and I haven’t been able to do it. It is irritating, but objectively I do find it unfair that everyone relies on dozens of other player’s to get their 100% zone completion. Especially when there are times where you’re just going to be paired against someone who is stronger and more organized.

Even if it were once a week, that would still make it better, in my opinion.

SoR had blackgate’s borderland under control after the reset..

We have flipped their keep a few times in last couple weeks.
It’s not easy cuz they stack EB pretty hard, and SoR has an excess of PvE only players leaving us with less people overall in WvW. I haven’t seen a q time in EB other than Friday in a month or so, try getting a bunch of other people to push their keep.

Hey I don’t think its fair I have to do PvE maps to get 100% completion when all I want to do is WvW.

I’m on BG but I totally agree with the OP.

Its lose/lose for both the PvE crowd and the WvW crowd.

Having to map complete forts in WvW to finish a 99% PvE goal is a bit like not being able to get a raise at an office tech job until your favorite football team wins a championship game.

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the rush of sneaking around WvW snagging camp PoIs. But the ones that are impossible without a competent online server crowd with goals that match your location (towers, castle) need to be moved outside or something.

I already have 100% and it wasn’t that hard for me, but I know there were several times where it would have been.

100% WvW completion before I hit lvl 10. Just is a matter of timing most the time. Took me awhile to get it on my thief that was made for 100% map completion mind you, by awhile I mean a week of trying. Got it thanks to friends throwing up 10 golems and ripping the final keeps apart

world completion is suppose to be hard. It sucks that you are always the same colour, but your server apparently does cap the keeps you are missing.

Im a WvW player, and i had to go through all the PvE maps to get the world completion aswell. Not fun for me either.

If you are that desperate, hop to another server for a week.

Oh, hai server transfers!

So what you, OP and cohorts, are saying is that people need less motivation to contribute to efforts in World vs World?

No thanks. Sanctum of Rall is already without a queue on all Wv³ maps for most of the day, every day.

Aneirin Cadwall.9126:

So what you, OP and cohorts, are saying is that people need less motivation to contribute to efforts in World vs World?

No thanks. Sanctum of Rall is already without a queue on all Wv³ maps for most of the day, every day.

Perhaps less motivation to transfer to a server that doesn’t need help.

I got my WvW map completion during the unlimited free transfer period, as I’m sure many of the gold starred people running around did as well, and I feel bad for anyone who didn’t (especially if you’re not really into WvW for whatever reason). I also feel that WvW should be removed from the requirements for completion and legendary weapons, as it brings many people in who have no interest in team play or PvP.

A reset of colors every few days would destroy the incentive to hold and upgrade points. WvW was intended to run for 2 week matches originally, be glad that isn’t implemented (yet).

Skatch.6721:

It is irritating, but objectively I do find it unfair that everyone relies on dozens of other player’s to get their 100% zone completion.

It’s an MMO. I am mostly a solo player, but I don’t mind some things requiring grouping. Some of the temples you need for completion in Orr take as many people to complete as a siege, have you posted about how hard it is to get a group to clear the temple of Lyssa yet? How about a thread on how hard it is to find anyone willing to kill the champion risen king?

All that aside, here are my suggestions for finishing your map:

Get into WvW and help your team win points. You’re on SoR? If you can beat BG down a notch you’ll change colors.

Spam map chat in LA to make a group of people who need the same stuff, get some blueprints and go wage war.

Switch servers and deal with the 1 week cooldown. A week isn’t a big deal in the long run.

Um just transfer to the other server and then back? Oh and 100% world completion is not just a PVE goal, but WVWer have to spend much more time doing PVE world completion even if they dont want to, if they going for legendary weapon. So for the PVEer doing the WVW map completion it doesnt take much time at all.

I’d like to get onto Sea of Sorrows, but it’s full. i just need to get the Vista and POI at their main fort in EB, and with 3 SB zergs running around, none of them touch this area at all today, or this past week it seems. i play for 18 hours/day on my days off, and either i cannot get in when the gettin’s good (because they have taken SoS main, but i cannot enter) or the zergs avoid that area like the plague.

i tried to play and involved myself with some zergs today, but commanders were not issuing much instruction, so as my feeble pve mind tries to grasp what the heck is going on, i just get frustrated when roaming around. “kill stuff” seemed to be the objective for the day, otherwise it would be attacking random walls and watching as commanders WP out of a counter zerg just to save themselves leaving me and other players with unnecessary repair bills and random troubles.

So server transfer, while still a highly suggested method, is impossible for me right now because my server (stormbluff) and SoS is full, and doesn’t allow me to switch. if i was able to switch, i would like to go back to my SB server, oh but because it will probably be full, i have to wait several more weeks to get back, so i won’t be able to play with my friends.

so for now i guess i’ll take up EB space, and just hang around at the starting area until it clears up. then maybe i will get lucky. learn 2 play? sure, if i didn’t have to scrub to get by in this game type.

put me in a WvW overflow server, or something, where i can “learn 2 play”. Grats to all players that already have 100% exploration in WvW.

2x SB zergs arrive at the Sea of Sorrows Lowlands. neither of them coordinate a taking of the fort. maybe they did on voice chat, which doesn’t help their in-game chat watching followers, much. shortly after seeing 2 commander icons out there, one WP’s across the map to do something else, while the one i joined runs around in circles, leading their followers (and myself) to their deaths in a counter zerg.

Some servers are nice enough to let you go in and get your vistas and POIs if you are alone or /sit or /wave when you approach alone.

i tried that, that doesn’t work. also tried being unarmed and with no armor. i waved to the fort and approached it, and got bombarded with siege and the players and NPCs annihilated me at the gate.

while i have not actually asked in chat, “may i please come in to explore? by myself?”, i feel that this would be a bigger, and more embarrassing fail. surely someone on the SoS team will see that i am obviously alone and cannot take the place by myself, but the veteran npcs on the walls probably wont chance that.

the color rotation might be a good idea.

Color rotation is the obvious answer and if someone can find a reason why they have to be set week after week I’d be really surprised. I have a feeling we will see this in february or sooner.

rgrwng.4072:

I’d like to get onto Sea of Sorrows, but it’s full. i just need to get the Vista and POI at their main fort in EB, and with 3 SB zergs running around, none of them touch this area at all today, or this past week it seems. i play for 18 hours/day on my days off, and either i cannot get in when the gettin’s good (because they have taken SoS main, but i cannot enter) or the zergs avoid that area like the plague.

i tried to play and involved myself with some zergs today, but commanders were not issuing much instruction, so as my feeble pve mind tries to grasp what the heck is going on, i just get frustrated when roaming around. “kill stuff” seemed to be the objective for the day, otherwise it would be attacking random walls and watching as commanders WP out of a counter zerg just to save themselves leaving me and other players with unnecessary repair bills and random troubles.

So server transfer, while still a highly suggested method, is impossible for me right now because my server (stormbluff) and SoS is full, and doesn’t allow me to switch. if i was able to switch, i would like to go back to my SB server, oh but because it will probably be full, i have to wait several more weeks to get back, so i won’t be able to play with my friends.

so for now i guess i’ll take up EB space, and just hang around at the starting area until it clears up. then maybe i will get lucky. learn 2 play? sure, if i didn’t have to scrub to get by in this game type.

put me in a WvW overflow server, or something, where i can “learn 2 play”. Grats to all players that already have 100% exploration in WvW.

2x SB zergs arrive at the Sea of Sorrows Lowlands. neither of them coordinate a taking of the fort. maybe they did on voice chat, which doesn’t help their in-game chat watching followers, much. shortly after seeing 2 commander icons out there, one WP’s across the map to do something else, while the one i joined runs around in circles, leading their followers (and myself) to their deaths in a counter zerg.

Why do you need to get on Sea of Sorrows to finish map completion? Just go to #1 server in a different tier. You only have to look at the current rankings to see which ones are 1st in their tier.

Just join the 1st server in the last tier of eu currently it is whiteside ridge.
These servers are too strong for the other 2 and hold 95% of the map at any given point. Then u can transfer back to ur server,

The color actually does serve a purpose. In any given tier the highest ranked server is green, and the lowest server is red.

On EB, green is in the most disadvantaged position, since they cannot have a treb in the safety of their keep that reaches stone mist, and their towers closer to stonemist are all on lower ground, and jerrifers have a cliff that can be used to siege their keep.

Red on the other hand can treb stone mist by just building on their keep wall, with a maze in front to discourage enemies, and anzalias is on higher ground.

Blue is in the middle of the two. A treb can be set on a jump puzzle at the edge of their maze, but it can still be taken out easily by a small quick team. Overall they are neither advantaged or disadvantaged compared to the other two.

Unless you transfer for a week, maybe when they get Guesting will work?

Yesterday my server owned Stonemist briefly, so I leapt into EB with the specific intent of getting the vista atop the castle. And I still don’t have it because I got caught up in fighting and running supply and building, etc. My own fault, of course; I feel a sense of vaguely amused chagrin, thinking about it. :-)

I got back and forth on the issues of World Completion and the mixing of PvE and WvW requirements for the monthly achievements. Part of me says that everything about the game is ultimately optional, and if you don’t enjoy doing something, don’t do it. This is the tack I take with myself; I just got the monthly achievement for the first time, because in previous months there were requirements I just couldn’t be bothered with. OTOH, I want people to enjoy playing the game so that it’s successful (and so I have happy people to do WvW and PvE with). And it does seem as if the current system, while obviously designed to encourage players to experience a variety of game elements, is not optimal. The WvW lovers find the task of PvE map completion onerous; the PvE lovers find the task of WvW map completion onerous. Perhaps it would satisfy more people if the titles were split (Tyria completion and Mist Completion), and if each title provided some reward plus a unique symbol that could be displayed (like the gold star), but still requiring both for the acquisition of a Legendary.

haqqa.8194:

Unless you transfer for a week, maybe when they get Guesting will work?

Guesting will not apply for WvW. That’s half the point.

with no prior instruction on how to identify the different level “tiers”, could someone please explain? this question may sound crabby, but i don’t know what these tiers are.

i thought it was just a random match-up of servers, that just happened to be SoS, JQ, and SB. i did not know of this beforehand (actually, at all), due to lack of instruction/introduction/hand-holding in game. but maybe i should stop trying to report the charr NPC at the spawn point for AFK-ing and get to know him better.

i just thought i would log in and be able to roam freely, looking for interactive points around to find out what to do. this is not currently so, and players i guess either “just get with the program and go with it” or are inexperienced scrubs (players call me scrub – i kind of like that title). not the best wake-up call, but i’d rather not combat any other players – just get my points in peace(?) and leave. scrubbing on the map probably took up some much needed countering spots when i guess times got tough in battle, but i have been at it for about a month now, and just feeling a bit burnt out. i just want to finish exploration so i never have to go in there again.

i finally got the grasp of waiting to queue for entry, and the different maps. I still need 100% completion, and those 2 points i may look at again tonight – maybe i will get lucky by the end of the week.

a guild member says that the colors do rotate, and it’s on a weekly basis? if so, that makes me very happy if the change were to be this weekend. SWITCH ME TO GREEEN!

@rgrwng – A lot of players use this site to see the ranking and current (more or less) scores.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

The ranking system is based on a system call Glicko which I’m afraid I don’t know enough about to give a good explanation of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system

I can tell you that the colors do change, but it’s based on the server’s rating, it’s not done weekly or on any kind of timetable. To give you an example, my own server was green and in Tier 3 for quite a while. We recently moved up to the 3rd slot in Tier 2, which now makes us red. Long and short though, is that your server will need to secure 1st place in some tier in order to go green. You might want to check the map periodically and see if your server is dominating the whoever the green server is (never know…could happen) so you can sneak in get what you need.

thanks for the clarification on the color changes. the website looks very informative at first glance.

If you are so eager to get your 100% completion, just transfer over to a winning server for a week and use their successful takeovers to get the last percent down. You should be able to handle playing without friends for a week if you want to finish your completion. Right?

Does no one else see a problem with so many people suggesting I server transfer for a week? :x I mean I appreciate the advice, as I have considered it thoroughly myself. But that as a solution seems a wee bit silly

Jus’ me? :x okie /_\

Skatch.6721:

Does no one else see a problem with so many people suggesting I server transfer for a week? :x I mean I appreciate the advice, as I have considered it thoroughly myself. But that as a solution seems a wee bit silly

Jus’ me? :x okie /_\

It’s a holdover from when server transfers were unlimited or limited to 24 hours. The 7 day limitation makes the transfer suggestion a little excessive, but it is an option if someone really wants the map completion. If it were a solution being suggested directly from Anet, I might say it’s silly. But coming from players it’s pretty logical to suggest.