Guild Wars 2

I’m not usually one to complain, but after heading to Zraith’s Beacon today and being camped by a different server nonstop, I’m extremely irritated. This is absolutely ridiculous. And I can’t even waypoint out of it for I’m stuck in combat even after going several minutes without. The only way to get out is by either exiting the game or heading to a different borderlands. This has been going on what, since the game started? And has yet to be fixed? This is absurd.

PvP in a PvP zone is acceptable and encouraged. Don’t do the jumping puzzle if you aren’t willing to fight for the chest.

I do not mind PvP. That’s why I’m in WvW, after all. I’ve always been a PvPer. However, I consider CAMPING completely unacceptable. It wouldn’t be so bad if people had a way out without being forced to completely remove themselves from the map because some dumb players feel it’s fun to grief others. And anet not implementing any possible way to out of such situations is bad game design. For example, why am I not able to simply run back through the portal? It makes NO sense. The people who say ‘PvP happened in a PvP zone’ are often the ones who are griefing or haven’t experienced the constant ganking themselves. They have no empathy and don’t care because it didn’t happen to them.

My solution to that is to get people together and annihilate the campers. Not only does that solve the issue of them camping, but it’s a lot more fun and personally rewarding to boot. PvP solution to a PvP problem.

SnidgetAsphodel.7961:

I do not mind PvP. That’s why I’m in WvW, after all. I’ve always been a PvPer. However, I consider CAMPING completely unacceptable. It wouldn’t be so bad if people had a way out without being forced to completely remove themselves from the map because some dumb players feel it’s fun to grief others. And anet not implementing any possible way to out of such situations is bad game design. For example, why am I not able to simply run back through the portal? It makes NO sense. The people who say ‘PvP happened in a PvP zone’ are often the ones who are griefing or haven’t experienced the constant ganking themselves. They have no empathy and don’t care because it didn’t happen to them.

Not raining on the parade, I think JP camping is an excuse for the skill less personally so I agree with you.

But what you mentioned about having no empathy, that is just human nature, if you don’t experience it first hand, you really can’t imagine, even if you say you can. All I can say is try in the early morning hours or mid day during the work week.

Confession charr says: I do not know what Zraith’s Beacon is

SnidgetAsphodel.7961:

For example, why am I not able to simply run back through the portal? It makes NO sense.

As a mesmer with portal on my bar in a keep about to be captured, I’d love it if ANet would please remove the one-way nature of the JP portal because of this guy’s humble request.

I usually give the jp a shot about once a week and if I don’t make it in one run I don’t try again. You’re better off just earning your buying blueprints and earning badges on the battlefield. Don’t waste 1-2 hours trying to /wave or /bow your way up.
personally, I like my badges to squirm before earning them :P
Thanks for the post!

SnidgetAsphodel.7961:

I do not mind PvP. That’s why I’m in WvW, after all. I’ve always been a PvPer. However, I consider CAMPING completely unacceptable. It wouldn’t be so bad if people had a way out without being forced to completely remove themselves from the map because some dumb players feel it’s fun to grief others. And anet not implementing any possible way to out of such situations is bad game design. For example, why am I not able to simply run back through the portal? It makes NO sense. The people who say ‘PvP happened in a PvP zone’ are often the ones who are griefing or haven’t experienced the constant ganking themselves. They have no empathy and don’t care because it didn’t happen to them.

I completely agree. In a game designed to bring players together, I fail to understand why there is jumping puzzle that is seemingly designed to benefit the trolls and griefers whose only desire is to screw up other players trying to enjoy the puzzle. Having the high ground in places like the arena gives the enemy an absurd advantage because they can just spam AoE damage skills to put you in combat and reduce your jump distance (and make it impossible to WP and avoid armor repair), and crowd control (especially pull skills) skills to knock you off the jumps. It’s ridiculous and frustrating that a single team with campers at the top can just portal anyone to the top (giving them a free reward for doing absolutely nothing) while preventing anyone else from completing the puzzle for the entire day.

Today I spent an hour trying to complete the JP and ultimately was only rewarded with armor repair. The trolls made sure to spam /laugh as well to be sure that I knew how much they enjoyed giving me armor repair and otherwise wasting my time. Why is Zraith’s Beacon designed for people like this, instead of the average WvW player that just wants to complete a jumping puzzle, perhaps with a little PvP mixed in? This J kitten eemingly designed to appease trolls and punish average players of the game…

I’m fine with PvP being in the JP, but it’s ridiculous that a small group of campers with a Mesmer can easily make it impossible to complete while allowing anyone on their team to skip the entire puzzles content for a reward. If there’s going to be PvP in a jumping puzzle, can’t it at least be a fair fight? At the very least can Portal be nerfed to put everyone on the same footing (add an effect that makes the skill not work while in the JP) and can a stealth shrine be added right before the arena (i.e. after the dark room) so players skilled at the jumping puzzle (and not so much interested in fighting) can at least have a chance getting past campers? In a game designed to be inclusive, I fail to understand why a small group of trolls only interested in griefing other players progress can make an entire jumping puzzle exclusive to their team. Please fix this.

lol just use the invis wells. Its crazy instead of using the counter A-net all rdy gave us to trolls in the j-puzzle people come here and qq.

bandgeekdp.4651:

lol just use the invis wells. Its crazy instead of using the counter A-net all rdy gave us to trolls in the j-puzzle people come here and qq.

Idk if you’ve actually tried to use the wells to get through, but last time i did the invis ran out around the arena. This is without messing up and taking all the shortcuts i know. With the arena as the most camped location, it seems like there needs to be a well at the end of the dark room (maybe even requiring you to take a different path through the dark to reach it). As is, it doesn’t help you vs the majority of campers.

Personally i’ll ask about the JP before attempting it, chances are if its camped someone else will be half way through being ganked and can tell you not to bother. If people are willing to waste their time at the top of the arena for hours, in exchange for a couple of kills and some virtual tears, good luck to them – I tried to camp the top of the arena for 20 mins or so once, it was awful.

You will find no sympathy from most of the people here. Most people here want the JPs removed completely from WvW.