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Posted by: CharliePrince.2071

CharliePrince.2071

are still open and you guys already shifted to week long matches..

do you know what happens when you’re being dominated in wv3?

in 2 days if the score is so lopsided.. do you honestly think people still play wuvwuv??

they’ll just transfer off

you just made things so much worse by moving off the 24 hour format which people were already riding “until reset at 7pm” but you made it a week long farm sessions now and people have ane asy out clause with the free transfers being open

my father taught me if you do something, do it right and don’t do it half-kitten

this is half-kitten the right move was to progress to a week long match.. BUT DO NOT keep transfers open as that negates any semblance of population balancing..

people will transfer even more and you’ll get even more fluctuation instead of the steady ground we all want to stand on

the game has been out for over 2 weeks

do it right, stop free transfers already if we are moving on to week long matches

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Posted by: SoulstitchMMO.1396

SoulstitchMMO.1396

While I do support this thread, you must understand the free transfer is not Ferguson’s choice and it probably falls under someone higher up.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make noise about it. He must make the decision makers aware of the impact on WvW.

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Posted by: Jnight.7395

Jnight.7395

have we moved to week long matches? have they announced that?

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Posted by: CharliePrince.2071

CharliePrince.2071

have we moved to week long matches? have they announced that?

where have you been..? it begins tonight, Fri, Sep 14..

it’ll be week long farm fests at the way things are setup right now

the stacked servers will get even more stacked as people will not tolerate a week of getting crushed in wuvwuv and will simply transfer to whichever servers are doing best

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Posted by: Thorvald.5432

Thorvald.5432

I agree with OP. Free transfer should have been closed by now, especially since ranking have been posted.

If nothing is done, things can only get worst. People never like to be in the loosing camp, they will move to the top tier server even if there is a queue.

At least all top15 ranked servers should have paid transfer instead of free.

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Posted by: Jnight.7395

Jnight.7395

have we moved to week long matches? have they announced that?

where have you been..? it begins tonight, Fri, Sep 14..

it’ll be week long farm fests at the way things are setup right now

the stacked servers will get even more stacked as people will not tolerate a week of getting crushed in wuvwuv and will simply transfer to whichever servers are doing best

I have been hearing it but I cannot find any official announcement :S Figured there would be one.

So does that mean at 7pm this evening there will be a new match-up and a one week battle?

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Posted by: Estus.1726

Estus.1726

Spawn camping will likely be taken to the next level. Now the floor mat servers can expect to see trebuchets, catapults, and arrow carts set up to welcome the few brave souls that venture out.

Free server transfers are yummy.

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Posted by: Keane.1968

Keane.1968

Keeping free transfers open is a good idea.

BUT

do not allow them to high population servers

AND

don’t penalize guilds for moving.

Pretty simple.

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Posted by: Shintai.5618

Shintai.5618

Free transfers should have been removed after 2-3 days.

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Posted by: Jnight.7395

Jnight.7395

It was my understanding that before the game launched they said anyone who server transfers would be locked out of WvW? :S

Edit: for the duration of the current match.

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Posted by: CharliePrince.2071

CharliePrince.2071

It was my understanding that before the game launched they said anyone who server transfers would be locked out of WvW? :S

Edit: for the duration of the current match.

nope, none of that is happening, there’s no regulation whatsoever.. it’s a free for all

your server losing? server transfer off

imagine a week of that

anyone who honestly thinks they’d stay in a 300,000 to 50,000 to 5,000 game is fooling themselves

you’re looking at mass transfers

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Posted by: Ahmrill.7512

Ahmrill.7512

Free transfers in general are not the issue… it where they are going to.

please , Stop free transfers to servers with HIGH populations.

Ahmrill
Proud member of [NORD] Nordvegr Guild
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Posted by: ecwoodrow.7034

ecwoodrow.7034

Let the baddies transfer to the bigger servers. It’ll increase their queue times, and fill their map with morons.

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Posted by: Gankfest.4965

Gankfest.4965

There is a thread about it here

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Posted by: Anndy.5632

Anndy.5632

i can live with it IF they limited it based on server populations, you should really only be able to transfer to low population servers

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Posted by: CharliePrince.2071

CharliePrince.2071

i can live with it IF they limited it based on server populations, you should really only be able to transfer to low population servers

agreed

the funny thing is.. the community is nearly unanimous in this

those who are on the stacked servers: Denravi, Eradon Terace, JAde Quarry, Stormbluff DO NOT WANT their queues getting worse

and those on instant queues server wishes there were more people playing in wuvwuv

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Posted by: Fed.8594

Fed.8594

Totally agree with this post. Free transfers are gonna screw WvW across the board once these week long games kick in.

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Posted by: kitanas.3596

kitanas.3596

If poeple are tranfering to avoid losing servers, then why would they fight if they can’t transfer?

/thread

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Posted by: Fed.8594

Fed.8594

The point is to only allow free transfers to lower pop servers. Anyway, first night of the week long match and my fear has been realised. I’ve already spoken to two folks who are transferring because of the low wvw population of the server I am on… Anet have dropped to ball on guiding players towards balancing server pops. They recommend the community disperse but provide no incentive to do so… guilds lose xp and you can still transfer to high pop servers.

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Posted by: Optimism.7213

Optimism.7213

i can live with it IF they limited it based on server populations, you should really only be able to transfer to low population servers

agreed

the funny thing is.. the community is nearly unanimous in this

those who are on the stacked servers: Denravi, Eradon Terace, JAde Quarry, Stormbluff DO NOT WANT their queues getting worse

and those on instant queues server wishes there were more people playing in wuvwuv

Very much agree here. Free transfers should only be available to destination realms in low/medium populations with little/no WvW queue. People are complaining so much about 3-4 hour queues while I’m racking up the badges on a med pop server.

The point is to only allow free transfers to lower pop servers. Anyway, first night of the week long match and my fear has been realised. I’ve already spoken to two folks who are transferring because of the low wvw population of the server I am on… Anet have dropped to ball on guiding players towards balancing server pops. They recommend the community disperse but provide no incentive to do so… guilds lose xp and you can still transfer to high pop servers.

If it makes you feel any better, my server is having a similar issue. Not even two weeks in and there’s some dying server communities without even being established. With the free transfers, that’s what bothers me the most. The flakes bail the moment a loss occur and, with 1 week long matches, this one will hurt alot more.

In a sense though it’s good for us. Rather have the people willing to work together anyway instead of the flakes looking for the easy way.

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Posted by: Helheimr.2485

Helheimr.2485

World vs World on a “losing” server is so much more infinitely fun than playing on a “winning” server (the one with the largest zerg blobs) that I don’t know why anyone would care to transfer off of them.

2-5 hour queue times to be able to join a zerg and do nothing particularly entertaining, vs insta-pop queues and constant action (with your friends who can actually get in!) isn’t a hard choice.

I’m on Kaening, and we went from having NO POINTS AT ALL (not even a camp), to grabbing a few critical locations in Eternal Battleground and meat-grindering the other two servers whenever they came to take our fortified keep and towers. We had a fight at Ogrewatch Tower that lasted almost 1.5 hours that claimed probably over 1000 enemy lives over the duration held off by a significantly smaller number.

You don’t have to go looking for fights, they come to you.

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Posted by: DeLLy.1897

DeLLy.1897

Helheimr, I feel you’re in the minority here. Most people don’t want to lose repeatedly and by a large margin. Even with no queue time it isn’t fun.

While the transfers are essentially killing the WvW game for the winning servers because the queue times are so long. The PVE on the lower pop servers will take a hit as there aren’t as many people to do events and dungeons with.

I really think it is too late, Anet acted way to slowly and for the top 3-5 NA servers WvW queues are terrible either 24/7 or during primetime and then some of the best servers completely lose overnight.

It really would have been wise for Anet to be more community oriented, I know they obviously had a lot of work and things to fix, but WvW is terrible as it stands. The gameplay for WvW is AMAZING, but not controlling what is happening to the servers will kill it.

I guess in the end, it has no monthly subscription and the hardcore WvWers will either move on or just struggle with the queues. It is a shame it could have been easily fixed by just closing transfers to the overly High/Full servers, especially with a queue 24/7.

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Posted by: CeCaKonVeu.5734

CeCaKonVeu.5734

I thought u could only do 1 free transfer then they would charge for it ?

If its totally free then its bad … and there are so many ways to exploit it … as seen in other games with free transfer.

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Posted by: CharliePrince.2071

CharliePrince.2071

I dunno about you guys but I feel ArenaNET, whoever is in charge of wuvwuv has simply dropped the ball

maybe they are overwhelmed fixing other bugs/patches and of course this hacker problem gold map chat spam we see every day that goes unchecked

but it’s obvious by now ArenaNET has simply dropped the ball and is clueless regarding wuvwuv specially with the mess of promoting to week long matches keeping transfers open

the situation is horrible, just a complete disaster

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Posted by: Derrikson.4709

Derrikson.4709

Who transfer from losing server is totaly dumb. This is not WHO. When you totally dominate in GW2 WvWvW – you getting bored becouse you have nothing to do in WWW. I prefer to play on losing side – this mean you always have enemies and more over – keeps, points and citadel for capturing which gives much more exp and money and especially karma. So if ppl want to be bored by play on dominated server – they must do this. They open spots in borderlands and EB for those who really want challenge and want good enemies.

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Posted by: Fed.8594

Fed.8594

Honestly, i’m not sure what is going on over at Anet over the free transfer issue. Free transfers to already high pop servers should be closed. If you want to go there, u should pay.

If this is about Guesting not being implemented yet… then wow, really wow cos that would be Anet catering for PVE reasons when WvW is what is going to keep peeps playing.