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Posted by: xXMapcoXx.9614

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WvWvW is open world pvp isn’kitten I’m not wrong right? if you go in there you should know that any enemy player can/will/are gonna kill you right? then why the kitten are we told “don’t mess with duelers or people doing gvg” they got pvp arenas and kittening guild halls for that kitten tired of of seeing people talk about dont killed these people! Its open world pvp for kitten sake! If you go into it expect to be kittening murdered end of god kitten story.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

You absolutely have a right to kill whomever you want.

Not attacking them is more something of respect for different play styles.

If you choose not to respect another’s playstyle, then they have equal right to just come after you and kill you, over and over again.

Most duellers duel to improve skill set so they are the best they can be at their class.

You decide “if it’s red, it’s dead” is worth it.

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Posted by: zinkz.7045

zinkz.7045

This game doesn’t have any open world PvP.

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Posted by: Famine.7915

Famine.7915

Red is dead.

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Posted by: JDjitsu.7895

JDjitsu.7895

You absolutely have a right to kill whomever you want.

Not attacking them is more something of respect for different play styles.

If you choose not to respect another’s playstyle, then they have equal right to just come after you and kill you, over and over again.

Most duellers duel to improve skill set so they are the best they can be at their class.

You decide “if it’s red, it’s dead” is worth it.

That’s pretty well put. It’s definitely a respect thing. It’s a 4 yr old culture so to speak that most players respect and some will make it a full time job hunting you down with groups if you keep at it. It’s not hard to run past a GvG or someone dueling. But hey, this game is getting boring, I get doing whatever you have to do have fun m8. There’s definitely no rules against it.

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

Xenesis.6389

Hey man… if you want to mess with gvg’s go right ahead… just don’t come back here and complain when 20 guys hammer you down and your team mates are staring at your corpse laughing. Guilds do use guildhall arenas, but it’s not the best place to fight. Some fights don’t last that long so players don’t want to port to OS or guildhall unless they plan on spending a few hours fighting.

As for dueling, what if you were on the other side suddenly getting outnumbered in a singles fight, would you like that? Granted people don’t respect this on either side, some people welcome the help, some don’t. Ultimately it’s up to you on whether or not to join in, if someone who is actively dueling asks for you not to join then leave them be and move on, and if they do it in a rude fashion make a mental checknote of their name and never help them out again.

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Posted by: Sarika.3756

Sarika.3756

As others have mentioned, it’s just a case of showing respect. It actually works out in your favor, too. Respect someone else’s fights, and they will usually respect yours.

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Posted by: babazhook.6805

babazhook.6805

Play as you wish and live or die with the consequences of your actions. It is totally your choice. Another player can not tell you how to play.

I myself tend to leave duelists alone UNLESS they are using the cover of duels to take camps, kill yaks and the like in between fights which many will do. If that happens I clean them out or at least ty to. We are all free to make our own rules in this regard.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Jayne nailed it. You can do what you want, but you may well not like the consequences. Otherwise, it’s all part of observing the, “Don’t be a kitten” rule.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

It has already been stated by others but to add to the echo -

Expect there to be backlash if you’re interrupting a duel or a GvG.

Red is dead, yes. You’re entitled to attack who you please but just as much as you are allowed to attack who you wish, others are allowed to not attack who they wish. Remember that red is also a person just like you. Maybe all you know of them is their character’s appearance, their rank and guild, but they’re just playing the game the same as you. You don’t need to have anything more than a competitive dislike for them, otherwise you’re making it personal. When you try to stop people from doing what they enjoy, in this case duelling, it can feel personal. And that can lead to consequences you may not wish to experience.

I assume you accidentally (or perhaps purposefully) interrupted a duel and the people watching chose not to help you. It can feel pretty crappy when that happens but you have no one to blame but yourself if it was intentional. If it was accidental, then yes that sucks but you can easily redeem yourself by going back to the site of the incident and standing by passively to show that you’ve learned.

WvW is free game. You can do many different things and no one is entitled to tell anyone else how to play, other than how they wish to play themselves. Assuming no one is breaking any rules (ie. harassment, hacking/exploiting, supply/siege abuse), they can be as aggressive, obnoxious or downright unfair as they want when it comes to combat and competition.

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Posted by: JemL.3501

JemL.3501

WvWvW is open world pvp isn’kitten I’m not wrong right? if you go in there you should know that any enemy player can/will/are gonna kill you right? then why the kitten are we told “don’t mess with duelers or people doing gvg” they got pvp arenas and kittening guild halls for that kitten tired of of seeing people talk about dont killed these people! Its open world pvp for kitten sake! If you go into it expect to be kittening murdered end of god kitten story.

answer them ‘’no roleplaying allowed’’ and attack or use a treb/cannon/catapult and ruin the roleplaying

dont listen to them!!! all red must die!!!

I took an arrow to the knee

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Posted by: Sinmir.6504

Sinmir.6504

Interrupting a duel is trolling the player from your own server as well. They are trying to duel, they don’t want you joining in any more than the person you attack. They both want a 1v1 fight.
Although if there are no obvious signs(people watching passively, locaton that duels usually take place) then it can be hard to know it is a duel. If two players are fighting and it isn’t a duel the guy on your side might be even more annoyed if you do nothing than a dueler would be if you interrupt. If it is a duel and you didn’t know the one on your side can just step back, say, “duel” and if you respect him stop.

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Posted by: Odokuro.5049

Odokuro.5049

If it’s RED it’s DEAD, don’t waste queue-slots in WvW if your not going to help your side win that week. You want to get better on a solo scale? Then go and roam, find other roamers, see how you fair vs. them. Want to see if your guild is better than the other guild? Go to the OS or heck, those things in your guild hall, I think they’re called, “Arenas” I could be wrong…

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

If it’s RED it’s DEAD, don’t waste queue-slots in WvW if your not going to help your side win that week. You want to get better on a solo scale? Then go and roam, find other roamers, see how you fair vs. them. Want to see if your guild is better than the other guild? Go to the OS or heck, those things in your guild hall, I think they’re called, “Arenas” I could be wrong…

What’s a queue slot? I seem to have a vague memory of something like that, but… it’s been so long.

That said, if you want to think in terms of queue slots, a dueler on your side is taking up at least one slot from one of the opposing teams as well. Depending on the circumstances, a single dueler can also take greater number of opponents out of the fight than people doing what you think they should be doing instead.

For example, if two people on your side are dueling with 5-10 enemy spectators, that’s 7-12 enemies not taking your stuff and killing your doods for the price of two of your guys. That’s a serious bargain for your side, and everyone is doing what they want to do.

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Posted by: Big Boss.5206

Big Boss.5206

WvWvW is open world pvp isn’kitten I’m not wrong right? if you go in there you should know that any enemy player can/will/are gonna kill you right? then why the kitten are we told “don’t mess with duelers or people doing gvg” they got pvp arenas and kittening guild halls for that kitten tired of of seeing people talk about dont killed these people! Its open world pvp for kitten sake! If you go into it expect to be kittening murdered end of god kitten story.

Exactly, WvWvW is open world pvp.

SO STOP YOUR WHINING about getting killed over and over again by duelers. If being killed is too much for your carebear heart, then go to PVE.

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Posted by: reddie.5861

reddie.5861

WvWvW is open world pvp isn’kitten I’m not wrong right? if you go in there you should know that any enemy player can/will/are gonna kill you right? then why the kitten are we told “don’t mess with duelers or people doing gvg” they got pvp arenas and kittening guild halls for that kitten tired of of seeing people talk about dont killed these people! Its open world pvp for kitten sake! If you go into it expect to be kittening murdered end of god kitten story.

then go kill them and dont cry on the forum..
its just few obvious spots where people duel, if u feel the need to kill them go there and kill em.
im afraid u got ur kitten smashed while multiple people from your server where watching u die. Thus made u rage and come to the forum.

at the end no1 cares if u kill people who duel no1 cares if u join into a GvG, just dont expect help from others who do respect some simple “rules”

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Posted by: Odokuro.5049

Odokuro.5049

If it’s RED it’s DEAD, don’t waste queue-slots in WvW if your not going to help your side win that week. You want to get better on a solo scale? Then go and roam, find other roamers, see how you fair vs. them. Want to see if your guild is better than the other guild? Go to the OS or heck, those things in your guild hall, I think they’re called, “Arenas” I could be wrong…

What’s a queue slot? I seem to have a vague memory of something like that, but… it’s been so long.

That said, if you want to think in terms of queue slots, a dueler on your side is taking up at least one slot from one of the opposing teams as well. Depending on the circumstances, a single dueler can also take greater number of opponents out of the fight than people doing what you think they should be doing instead.

For example, if two people on your side are dueling with 5-10 enemy spectators, that’s 7-12 enemies not taking your stuff and killing your doods for the price of two of your guys. That’s a serious bargain for your side, and everyone is doing what they want to do.

I see what your saying, but, what about the several or more people from your guild or your server who need to get into a certain map to bring up the numbers, because a dozen or so of your server is just standing there looking at a couple people duel.

I have no problem with people dueling or wanting to improve ect. However I would like to know your opinion on why WvW exists? What is it’s intended purpose, given what it takes to win during the week?

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

Xenesis.6389

Wvw is open pvp, there’s no “one” way to play it as can be seen by the many different types of players and combat situations that happen. Roamers, duelers, havoc, defenders, scouts, ppt’ers, gvg fight groups, guild zergs, blobs, they all have a place in wvw, this isn’t spvp where your only purpose is to keep people off cap points and win in 10mins.

There are players who like even fights and ask for it. Respect is a two way street, you may not give any respect for duels and gvgs, but somewhere down the line you may run into a situation where that respect isn’t given back to you even by your own team.

Play however you want and kill whomever you want, listen or don’t listen to whomever, that’s up to you.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

I see what your saying, but, what about the several or more people from your guild or your server who need to get into a certain map to bring up the numbers, because a dozen or so of your server is just standing there looking at a couple people duel.

I have no problem with people dueling or wanting to improve ect. However I would like to know your opinion on why WvW exists? What is it’s intended purpose, given what it takes to win during the week?

My opinion is that wvw is whatever people want it to be. Some people like to duel, others like to ppt, some like to zerg, others like to roam, and some people like to sit on trebs all day.

If you have a bunch of people sitting around dueling when things are falling apart and helpers are stuck in queue, I suggest asking if some of the duelers are willing to pitch in or move the duels off map so others can help.

Just remember that nobody’s obligated to do anything, so screaming at them in map chat is a great way to not get what you want. Similarly, duelers who behave like jerks are probably more likely to get their duels ruined.

If people are cool and remember they’re just playing a game, things tend to go much better.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

they’ll get even more mad if you don’t attack but buff/heal the guy on your side

if you look close enuf youll see steam coming out of theur ears

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Posted by: Auburn.2456

Auburn.2456

I make it a point to always kill people in wvw. Everything is fair in wvw. Me and a buddy love to go and throw rat wells at duels. If people want to duel, go to OS or guild hall, there are even PvP maps you can go to.

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Posted by: Taobella.6597

Taobella.6597

if your dueling in middle of no where no one will care if your dueling in middle of the map idc i will kill you if i do not have max sigil stack because free value XD

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

I make it a point to always kill people in wvw. Everything is fair in wvw. Me and a buddy love to go and throw rat wells at duels. If people want to duel, go to OS or guild hall, there are even PvP maps you can go to.

And I love to watch duels, not participate in them. Because it’s almost guaranteed some moron will come along trying to stop it. Which is when I run in to kill and siege bury the player(s) that interfered. The hate whispers always make for a good laugh because “GO DUEL IN OS SCRUB OMG.”

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