Guild Wars 2

Anet needs to put ascended stuff on the trading post because nowadays you cant have fun in wvw if you have exotic gear. You have to be a no life and farm all day to get ascended stuff or you die in wvw. I cant log on, go roaming, and kill people with my SKILLS and not my GEAR anymore. And dont bring up pvp its not the same thing at all as roaming in wvw.

OP is exaggerating right? i thought the stat increase was negligible and doesnt make a difference

The stat difference isn’t enough to make so significant of an impact that your skill as a roamer should be diminished. I don’t even have full ascended armor on my thief yet (come to think of it I have all the materials, guess I’m lazy/forgetful/hate crafting), but I regularly kill other players who have full ascended armor and legendary weapons to boot. Ascended gear does not make or break you. Your build and skill as a player are much larger factors than your gear will ever be (unless you’re using rare quality or something, in that case, I’m sorry, that’s still your fault).

My suggestion to you is to make a character for every class that you struggle to play against when you roam, learn the ins and outs of that class, figure out the cues that they give for their abilities and learn through experience. Knowledge is power.

Your particular trait build has a far bigger impact than ascended gear. If you’re dying to people in ascended, work on your trait builds and skills. If you just copied a build off the internet, then you will fail at it 90% of the time as it was not tailored to your play style.

Someone point the OP back in the direction of the zerg.

Apparently it’s 5 – 15% difference.

I don’t bother with it – i hate crafting.

I would support more ways of acquiring the armour and weapons, particularly via WvW.

Also, i have 9 level 80s… gearing them is a problem.

despair.1385:

OP is exaggerating right? i thought the stat increase was negligible and doesnt make a difference

Actually pretty significant if in Zerkers. Very little difference except for toughness increase if a condi build, marginal increase if in tanky-ish power builds.

The stat increase is only something like 5%, but zerkers adds up differently because all three stats work together for more damage as well as weapon stats. We’ll have to see how ferocity changes things.

Not another " I want to own scrubs, but im too much of a scrub myself to get geared" topic.

I agree with OP. Ascended gear implementation in WvW is horrible.

5-15% is not negligable. Increasing the output of some of my skills by 5-15% would have people crying OP on the forum. The difference from full exotic (trinkets and all) to full ascended is actually quite a lot. You’ll get the biggest benefit from trinkets, then weapons. Once you have those the difference the armor makes is quite negligible. trinkets are easy to get, weapons are that hard to craft once you get your crafting to 500.

i have a couple ascended weapons and my ascended armor set done for my ranger. the armor is using all +5 toughness in the slots and travelers runes. you can tell the difference in a fight against rangers without them. yes, there needs to be easier access to ascended for wvw, i had to change servers to get enough fights and keep flips to farm all that. i am proud to say i went to pve for only 2 events.

geist.3980:

i have a couple ascended weapons and my ascended armor set done for my ranger. the armor is using all +5 toughness in the slots and travelers runes. you can tell the difference in a fight against rangers without them. yes, there needs to be easier access to ascended for wvw, i had to change servers to get enough fights and keep flips to farm all that. i am proud to say i went to pve for only 2 events.

Im sry whats the difference between flipping/reflipping stuff in www with a zerg ( your beloved karma train) and doing same in pve. Oh yeah pve is more challenging.

They put exotic gear you could purchase for badges + gold into WvW some time ago. Not sure why they wouldn’t do it with ascended now.

nirvana.8245:

They put exotic gear you could purchase for badges + gold into WvW some time ago. Not sure why they wouldn’t do it with ascended now.

Because enjoying the game, well, because of the game is apparently not enough. Having a good time, enjoying a large variety of builds, fooling around and enjoying yourself just won’t do. We must grind to have more fun.

Go figure.

hmm, thought I was alone regarding this topic:

PvE gear grind should not be required or affect PvP competition

I hammered ArenaNet for several years pre-development about this, it fell on deaf ears. WvW has lots to offer, but is sub-par primarily due to the PvE grind required. When Ascended appeared, I’d figure I would take a long break.

Lo, I return after a year, get invited to a new guild: and the first discussion in chat is under-equipped WvWers getting rolled by five max-stat combatants, 5 vs 20. I respectfully pointed out that they were not being cheated, but simply being out-PvE’d. “That’s why you cannot kill even one of the 5.” I explained to them how this happens with most MMOs in open PvP venues. You just can’t kill groups that have out-PvE’d you, when you are well under-equipped and perhaps even being out played by a very sound ‘team-build’. Same thing happened in WoW’s Alterac Valley, happened in Age of Conan, happened way back in DAoC etc, etc…

I’ll likely ‘not’ be WvWing any time soon, though it was lots of fun before the pve gear grind was added.

Weapons are a significant stat boost because ascended weapons have a higher base damage which amplifies both power and critical damage as well as having extra stat points.

Ascended jewelry is a big enough difference to warrant spending laurels to get since it doesn’t require much more than completing daily and monthlies for a while.

Ascended armor is expensive, a pain in the rear to make and doesn’t offer a significant stat boost for the time, effort and hassle involved.

it is true that the guild and skill matter more armor ascendent, but do not mistake or arena.net had said that you could get it all in more ways than one? Back, arms and armor you only need to do with PvE, no honor and laure to buy them… it is a lot of choice…

Ascended isn’t that big of a dif……. why the hell it’s all account bound tho….. literally, when I think about it, I hit a mental barrier and just give up on thinking.

Seriously, why can’t ascended be open to trade?…. I’d rather just play wvw and slowly save up the gold (which right now i just spend on useless vanity items ect.) to eventually buy some over priced piece of armor, and I would be totally ok with that.

it took me 48 ranks to finally get an Ascended Weapon chest. Please fix.

Dabrixmgp.4758:

it took me 48 ranks to finally get an Ascended Weapon chest. Please fix.

48 ranks??? im looking at over 800 over all my characters and have gotten 1 weapon and 1 ring :/

spvp is enough for lazy players.
with ascended gear you have to make choices and thats why its good for the game.

Um… Ascended armor is pretty much useless when it comes to the stat difference. Ascended trinkets? Do dailys > Save larels > get trinkets. You can get 2-3 a month if you keep up with dailies. And then again the occasional fractal for trinkets never huts. While I’m on it, find a good PvE guild to do missions with once a week for an hour to get your stuff. Ascended weapons are the only real “problem” but the rather small investment in them is worth it, and being the “WvW player” you are dragonite ore should not be an issue at all.

Ascended Gear should have a much better drop rate in WvW or you should be able to buy it for Badges. For that Ascended Gear of WvW should be WvW only. So People of PvE wouldn’t have a disadvantage.

It’s just a fact that people who play WvW need incredible much more time to farm gold than people of PvE. You need 15 Bolt of Damask for the new PvE backpiece. You need hundreds of Laurels to get one set. I really enjoy and love this game, but this is a reason for me to quit. I hope there will be a change soon.

i wouldnt mind paying 1 million Karma+1000 badges + 100 gems + 10 gold for 1 single ascended Armour lol