Guild Wars 2

When elemantalists downed,then cast the Vapor form,we cant get WvW experience for killing them.
And Elemantalists can always vapor form away instantly after downed.
This cause killing all elemantalist in wvw with no WvW experience..
This problem aslo exist in warrior’s Vengeance skill.(not instantly)

Well, we can’t get WXP from guardians or engineers either ‘cause they’re never downed.
We can’t get WXP from mesmers too ‘cause we don’t know which clone to kill
We can’t get WXP from thieves because they’re always invisible
We can’t get WXP from necros ‘cause they have 2 life bars
So we only get WXP from rangers.
I think it’s, fair, isn’t it?

More seriously, an ele near a gate is unkillable, yes. But most of the time, I encounter them in the open. And then, all you have to do is run 3 seconds and continue your killing or use your finisher.

Sorry, I’m not sure how new you are to the game, but the reason you arent getting WXP for these classes when this happens is because you didn’t kill them, you only downed them. The WXP is granted when you either spike them or finish them off with damage, and as such if the enemy uses an escape downed ability (ele mist form, thief blink/stealth, mesmer blink-stealth-clone combo, warrior vengeance) you have not yet killed them. The thing is, this experience isn’t ‘gone’, its just delayed the point at which you get it. After they use these abilities, you simply have to find them again and finish them off. No class has a downed ability that allows them to hide from you long enough to fully revive themselves with bandage (eles mist forming through a tower door is a different topic which has been brought up many times) unless you are bad at finding people. Warrior vengeance is a little different, they ‘revive’ themselves for a short time, after which they will die and grant you the WXP, unless they manage to kill an enemy and get the full revive (iirc there is a small chance of this happening normally, and a 100% chance if you trait).

Anyway, you do get WXP for killing them, but what you are describing is them using an escape while downed, not dead.

Also Fror, your post seems a little hostile considering how new to the game the guy seems. It looks to me like confusion between downed and dead rather than a rant on OP downed abilities/classes, for which there are numerous other threads.

@jamesigall: I hoped that the “more seriously” was a give away that all above that part was a joke! Especially, when I give an actual answer below.

Last time I checked, you get WXP from killing, not downing people. And you sure can kill everything. Someone doing mistform is not dead by definition.

Its easily visible when the most hardcore elementalists decide that yes, they must definetly survive and flee at any cost and mistform straight over a cliff giving you free WXP after a couple of seconds.

Fror.2163:

@jamesigall: I hoped that the “more seriously” was a give away that all above that part was a joke! Especially, when I give an actual answer below.

Ok my bad – just that you have to be careful when it comes to newer players, the other day a guy asked if we lost the whole WvW matchup because DH took our keep in EB, he messaged me (I was kinda helping organize our defense) telling me people were messaging him with ‘Yes its all over bro only PvE for the rest of the week’ and wanted to know if it was serious

Fror.2163:

Well, we can’t get WXP from guardians or engineers either ‘cause they’re never downed.
We can’t get WXP from mesmers too ‘cause we don’t know which clone to kill
We can’t get WXP from thieves because they’re always invisible
We can’t get WXP from necros ‘cause they have 2 life bars
So we only get WXP from rangers.
I think it’s, fair, isn’t it?

More seriously, an ele near a gate is unkillable, yes. But most of the time, I encounter them in the open. And then, all you have to do is run 3 seconds and continue your killing or use your finisher.

You don’t even understand that he is talking about. When you spike ele after mist form, you often get 0-1 WXP. This is annoying bug. Please, try read something more carefully next time before making “funny posts”.

Rednik.3809:

When you spike ele after mist form, you often get 0-1 WXP.

Wow. I was totally unaware of this…. Apologies for treating OP like a noob in my previous posts :/

I guess it comes from how the game awards WXP on kills, being that you can earn anywhere from 0 to 60 WXP per kill depending on how long the person was alive. Maybe the system that calculates this treats mist form as an actual death. I don’t really take that much notice of the WXP i’m earning from individual kills when roaming, more interested in finding the next fight.

Again, apologies to OP

lol eles op!
All roll ele so the opponents zerg levels slower!!!

lol naphack – should probably be noted that apart from its uses in running to safety (a tower, your zerg) this downed ability has little real use – it moves you a little, stopping a spike, but gives you an extra tick of the downed penalty. Plus, any fall damage in this state kills you instantly, and conditions from when you were downed persist to this state (obviously not applicable if you hit it straight up). So if you’re just fighting people in small groups, its no different from thief 2 or mes 2, except for this WXP loss. Personally, I couldn’t care less whether I get 60 or 0 WXP for a kill if its a good fight. Only way it might be annoying is if, like you said naphack, large groups are made up of a majority of eles, and wiping 20 people gets you 35 WXP.

Elementalist as well as warriors do not give any kind of xp after they use vengeange or myst form even after you KILL them

Not even normal XP? In my experience it still counts as a kill (i get a loot bag, idk if I get XP but i’d assume so), as i said never noticed the WXP difference.

jamesigall.5938:

Not even normal XP? In my experience it still counts as a kill (i get a loot bag, idk if I get XP but i’d assume so), as i said never noticed the WXP difference.

Yes it’s a bug since probably the start of the game that was never fixed.Not sure if they even count as kills to be honest .I really need to check that out.

Yeah i’ll try to check this out next time I play too – sadly that’ll be a bit of a while, but if this thread is still close to the front I’ll post whatever I can discover – unless you get there first ).

mistform count as revive for elementalist even though just few second, which make wxp timer reset to 0 and giving out low wxp….. in this case 0wxp.

hope anet is looking in this problem and fixing it.

Waiting for somebody to talk about how you “can’t kill thieves”, so they’re 0 WvW exp too.

/grabs popcorn

I didn’t know this. Makes me almost feel bad for using Vapor Form. I’ll still use it though hehe. Sometimes it saves my butt, even when there seems to be no hope.