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Posted by: McWolfy.5924

McWolfy.5924

WvW is not pve or pvp. If you want to be a good member of the team you have to accept a things:

1: Survive!

This is the most important. You need a durable build. For a new player 3300+ armor is a minimum + tons of condi remove. If you are dead you cant do dmg or support your team and you will rally the enemy downeds so this is why dieing is the worst thing what you can do with your team. If you die 2-3 times in an hour you are doing something wrong. Be more durable. Also use food and oil/stone.

2: Focus on downeds

It comes from the 1st point. Put aoe on enemys and res your mate. It will give you loot, wxp, rally your downed buddys. You will win more. Eles main job is to put everything on enemy downeds.

3: Stick on the commander

GW2 has an interesting mechanism. Attacks have a target cap. The more players stand in a small radius the less dmg they have to deal with. New players have the habit to run away. Thats a very thing, you will recieve more dmg because you are alone

4: Pick the right class, build

You have to be useful or else you just steal heal, buff from other members. Gua, necro, ele, warr, herald. They provide party heal, buff, aoe. Your dmg doesnt matter! A zerg has to focus the bangbang. If you have only 1000 dmg thats more than enough if you can focus. 40×1000 insta kills everything. Twice. Pvt armor (and some heal for guas and condi instead of power for condi dealers) is your friend. Its cheap and good. Also use energy sigil in all of your weapons. You cant survive a lot of situations wiuthout dodge. Check metabattle.com for builds but dont fear to change the expensive things for more sustain.

5: Leap!

Mobility is the key. Leaping on your commander and out of sticky situations is a key of victory. If you cant leap, teleport, whatever, you will be an easy, lonely target for the enemy.

6: dont use sieges

If you are a new player dont drop sieges and dont use them. You dont have the masterys, your dmg is low, you dont know where to place it, you will waste supply and the enemy will focus on you and kill within 2 seconds.

7: use TS

Use team speak. Join to your realms server. If you dont know what will happen you will die.

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Posted by: Aitadis.8269

Aitadis.8269

People really underestimate the food part, even mango pies and +5%/3 utility makes quite a difference and are super cheap, can get the +5/3% utility for free with badges too.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

If you die 2-3 times in an hour you are doing something wrong.

Or you are roaming against impossible odds.

#LifeBeforePips

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Posted by: Bond.4602

Bond.4602

First and foremost enjoy yourself.

Skirr
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Posted by: Rashagar.8349

Rashagar.8349

First and foremost enjoy yourself.

Yeah this would be the extent of my list too haha!

Possibly with some kind of follow up along the lines of “everybody dies and that’s ok, don’t let it stress you”.

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Posted by: McWolfy.5924

McWolfy.5924

Well. If you destroy the fun of 60 others… Its not just about you :P

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Well. If you destroy the fun of 60 others… Its not just about you :P

But stressing so much over not dying that WvW ceases to be fun is the point that’s being made.

As long as efforts are being made to improve and reduce the number of times one dies, then a player shouldn’t stress over the fact that they are new and dying.

I’m sure even vets die occasionally due to mistakes they themselves make.

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Posted by: Rashagar.8349

Rashagar.8349

Well. If you destroy the fun of 60 others… Its not just about you :P

That’s a very tenuous definition of fun those 60 others have if it can be destroyed so easily =P

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Posted by: zengara.8301

zengara.8301

3.3k+ armor is overdoing it, specially if not front line, or melee ele.

But as explained on another post……If you actually look at the player base, most is from WvW guilds, It is not PvE players. Most who fall down easely are also WvW players who mentally thinks that there is a huge majority of PvE players….which is FALSE
It is just Previous WvW players, or new WvW players who clings to WvW, thats why Que is moving so slow, people afk in WvW and hope to stay there for as long as humanly possible….in 2 hours the que will move 10 people. Those 10 people had to leave for a substainle amount of time while standing still in keep or w/e, DC etc.

It is not as it was before, wvw players are spending 90%+ of their time in wvw, and therefor it is hard to come in, it is the simple mentally of being scared of not getting in again that is forcing people in wvw.

(I forgot the term in economics, but it was also a huge factor in the times of crisis, consumer spending was very important in these times, and people who were being frugal was hurting the economy by not spending, to put it simply:

people were mentally frightened which caused the crisis to last a lot longer in some countries.)

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Posted by: lilypop.7819

lilypop.7819

First two are definitely the most important. However :-

6: dont use sieges

I would disagree with. Sure if your trying to open a gate or wall, leave if you have low masteries. But really people need to get used to using siege and the sooner the better as most group fights go to the biggest unless you use siege.

I have seen siege unused far more than inefficiently used. It particularly bugs me when defending a point/fort than the siege is not being used.

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Posted by: Chasind.3128

Chasind.3128

My guild has won 15vs 30+ groups bc we know they’re unskilled pvers. Eventually they give up & stay out of the bl which is meh bc we like bag farming.

My tip if you plan on sticking to wvw because you enjoy it over pve? Join teamspeak & a guild recruiting for wvw (they usually have builds designed for their raids) use food & invest in ascended gear for wvw infusions.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

It’s not just about you

A lot of blowhards wear a super tanky build, and that is good, because dying is bad. However, they will often boast about outlasting the rest of their allies while contributing very little. It is especially annoying when it is their allies that have allowed them to live that long in the first place. Their inability to respect that fact is what leads to failure. That simply makes them the best loser. Allowing your allies to die when you could have saved them is nothing to really brag about. A good player doesn’t play to not lose, they play to win.

What this means is that in a group, you should not just rotate your skills to ensure your own maximum effectiveness, but the people around you. Keep tabs on their health as well. A good example is the guardian Virtue of Courage (when traited with Indomitable Courage). The skill not only offers stability and breaks stun now, but it also does so for allied players. This means it’s not a good idea to randomly fire it off when you need stability, but it is an excellent way of breaking away when you and nearby party members when you get stuck. It’s even better if you inform people that you have done such a thing so they just don’t stand there and die.

It also means that even if your group attempts a suboptimal manuever, you go with it, because if half of you go west and the other half go east, you will get what is known in layman’s terms, as getting rekt.

So let’s say you’re in a moderately sized group taking a tower. You see the enemy zerg behind and the commander wants you to stay next to the door and hit them as they come in. The following argument will usually result

“Dude, half of us are on the lord, we should go to the lord’s room!”
“We’ll just use them as bait”
“They have too many!”

Now, at this time if you attempt to hold a vote on the issue, you are going to wipe. Winning the argument does no one good if you wipe. Bring up facts, but do not offer people contradictory commands.

In the end, a group of 20 on the same page will often beat 20 better players that aren’t. So oftentimes the best way to victory is to ensure your allies that you have their back.

Now there are times when the commander is egotistical, sucidal, and just kills off morale. In these cases, you may have to consider going elsewhere, or forming “splinter” roaming groups. It’ll often help entertain players that have nothing better to do.

tl;dr Find a way to make net positive contributions. Then you might find yourself welcome in squad instead of making threads crying about that you aren’t.

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.

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