Guild Wars 2

1)rewards are lets say ok
2)big servers have a lot bad pvp players but they win with more numbers
3)pve you make more gold
4)big servers have a lot more roaming teams so if you decide to roam you wont get far

so is there any reason to do wvw rather than pve and spvp that i did not discover yet?

if you dont like it I see no reason to play it either. It’s that simple.

aspirine.6852:

if you dont like it I see no reason to play it either. It’s that simple.

i like the idea of open world pvp but the act fails for me,
then its clear waste of time and not worth bothering with
gonna stick to more productive parts of the game.

I have to agree with aspirine.

Stick to what you feel are more productive parts of the game then. I am not entirely sure why you are telling us though. At least that is one more slot for one of my guildies to get on the map.

I mean you asked if there are reasons to play WvW that you haven’t discovered yet, and the answer is yes and no. I cannot PvP with my entire guild anywhere outside of WvW. It is fun. I have made a very large amount of money by having 2 different precursors drop of bags from players.

You on the other hand, didn’t post here, looking to find more reasons to play WvW. You posted an angry post, looking for others to validate your gripe. That is evident when you claim that players are “bad” simply because they outnumbered you. My experience proves to me that being outnumbered, truly means nothing, when it is against bad players.

WvW isn’t for everyone.. I will say though that I’ve found the love for it and it is pretty much the only game mode I play now. TBH I don’t play it for rewards. Although I’m mostly solo/small group roaming, It is the only place where I can still play with people from my own server ever since megaserver came into play.

RvR(vR)/WvW(vW) games always see this. Rewards are often sub-par to PvE, and you will often(always) run into one world that outnumbers the other(s).

You play WvW because it’s fun, or it’s not fun and you don’t play WvW.

I play WvW because it’s fun for me. The other game modes don’t interest me in the least, and the only time I PvE is when I am dead broke, and even then I can make some money in EotM.

Well I have to say I would like to see something to help with the population differences and making the game more competitive for all servers.

Honestly my first idea is that you combine EU and NA. This would allow for more round the clock uptime of the game itself. Ive also heard that some EU came to NA servers just because the ping was so much better. (Correct me if Im wrong).

But overall, with the game the way it is right now, it doesnt promote server loyalty. Once you understand that, then you understand that for you to have fun, you have to land yourself in a tier that will be fun to you.

Ive found tier 4 to be the best time so far.

You get a change up in matches and not the same 2 servers every weak like t1 and 2.

Its not a queue fest.

It works for me.

jihm.2315:

aspirine.6852:

if you dont like it I see no reason to play it either. It’s that simple.

i like the idea of open world pvp but the act fails for me,
then its clear waste of time and not worth bothering with
gonna stick to more productive parts of the game.

See, WvW is not open world PvP because it is not an open world. Each server is a closed world and you cannot PvP against players/friends on your own server. You have to have multiple accounts on different servers in order to simulate an open world PvP experience, which I do.

Sound like that OP just got outplayed. Enemy did motivate and move their troops better.

jihm.2315:

1)rewards are lets say ok
2)big servers have a lot bad pvp players but they win with more numbers
3)pve you make more gold
4)big servers have a lot more roaming teams so if you decide to roam you wont get far

so is there any reason to do wvw rather than pve and spvp that i did not discover yet?

I agree, but the points about rewards/gold are just as valid with sPvP.

However, I love sPvP and I loved it under the old reward system as well because for me, the rewards weren’t what drew me to the game mode. I loved being part of a team, of which I played an integral role, that had a specific objective.

In WvW, it just feels like success has almost nothing with what you do and even if you log in, play perfectly and actually make any progress towards success, you won’t really know until days later.

In the end it really feels like nothing in WvW really matters. The size of zergs really seems to be the biggest influence. There are exceptions, of course, but those exceptions just don’t make enough of a difference for it to really matter.

If WvW was a game type that lasted for several hours that had a distinct winner at the end of that time and had something at stake (i.e. winner gained control of something of status), then I would care. Examples of something like this would be something like HoM in GW1 or War of Empyrium in Ragnarok Online.

But if people actually enjoy WvW, then more power to them…

In the meantime, I’ll be over here in sPvP land. =P

P.s. I’m from TC, so I’ve been involved with ‘top tier’ WvW play.

There isn’t a real point, neither to take it seriously competitively, nor for the reward. Not even to stay relevant as players that claimed ‘superstar’ relevance from this game, is enough reason, or the right reason to keep you playing.

At the end of the day like everything else, you have to enjoy WvW in some capacity; either by Raiding, GvG, roaming or community blobbing, otherwise there’s other games to play and better things to do really, if you don’t enjoy things anymore.

I’ve met some great people during my time playing, even those who i don’t talk to anymore. WvW is a unique experience, with fun combat; even on the large scale.

1) WvW rewards are terribly bad to be honest
2) agree
3) agree
4) disputable, probably depends on which server you play

Generally, GW2 is game for casual players, not hardcore players, so personally I see only one reason for playing WvW -> because you like massive PvP with sieging enemy fortresses in a fantasy-themed MMORPG game. Thats all. Otherwise you really do not have any benefits when you finally capture an enemy castle, and your guild don’t obtain anything valuable for it (in fact, your guild do not obtain anything at all for capturing enemy castle, even when the name of game itself is “GUILD wars 2”). Technically WvW is meaningless battle arena, just a little bigger than 5v5. There are VERY FEW mmo games which have precisely developed and rewarding open-world mass PvP, and GW2 is not one of them.

GW2 is imho just story-oriented PvE game (and don’t get me wrong, in this aspect GW2 is awesome MMO game, in fact probably best I have seen in the last 10 years), with two battle arenas for ppl who wanna “kill” other players – one for sPvP, second for WvW.

And btw if you have good friends to play WvW with (especially if you are communicating with each others on Teamspeak), it means a whole new dimension of gameplay enjoyment, when compared to just a single-player GW2 PvE gameplay experience.

jihm.2315:

so is there any reason to do wvw rather than pve and spvp that i did not discover yet?

The surprise of what I will encounter makes wvw fun for me, and that is the best way I can explain it. Also grouping up with friends or a guild makes the experience phenomenally better. If you’re playing for rewards, well, it’s just not going to seem very fun for you.

Although I think there’s more to doing well, anything, than just winning and rewards, it seems that many would think the rewards are truly too low. PvP at least has reward tracks, wvw has 2 greens, the occasional yellow, and a rare exotic, as well as a mostly useless purple waiting.

I just got a magi ascended armor piece from my level up chest. Utterly useless, and it can’t be salvaged— just sold for 3s! At least a weapon could sell for 1g. Actually I want my green back; if it were cloth, it’d be more valuable!

To me at least, I think it’s pretty nice to play with the same group of people in a community effort, regardless of success or failure. It’s certainly not going to be a farm, eotm is way better for that. It’s a large scale outing, meaning that a few people won’t affect much, but I just come and do my part. It can also be somewhat unpredictible with whatever enemy zerg possibly hiding in the corner which tends to be fun too.

ArchonWing.9480:

Although I think there’s more to doing well, anything, than just winning and rewards, it seems that many would think the rewards are truly too low. PvP at least has reward tracks, wvw has 2 greens, the occasional yellow, and a rare exotic, as well as a mostly useless purple waiting.

I just got a magi ascended armor piece from my level up chest. Utterly useless, and it can’t be salvaged— just sold for 3s! At least a weapon could sell for 1g. Actually I want my green back; if it were cloth, it’d be more valuable!

To me at least, I think it’s pretty nice to play with the same group of people in a community effort, regardless of success or failure. It’s certainly not going to be a farm, eotm is way better for that. It’s a large scale outing, meaning that a few people won’t affect much, but I just come and do my part. It can also be somewhat unpredictible with whatever enemy zerg possibly hiding in the corner which tends to be fun too.

The unpredictability of the mode as well as the exaltation of winning a hard fought battle are the two factors that really can’t be replicated in other game modes. I do agree that if PvP is going to have significant rewards/tracks then WvW should also have some kind of payoff, and I too have known the pain of an utterly useless ascended chest drop(let us select stats please).

I think its interesting how dang interested people are in the “rewards” side of the game. I mean I get that too but to me, the real reward in the game is wiping some bad guys, helping your team out, etc.

I mean whats more rewarding saving a keep a few were trying desperately to defend or looping around in SW “finding” “hidden” chests?

I find fighting players more rewarding then anything else in the game. The open map of wvw allows me to take advantage of more of them. My heart doesn’t race when I kill npcs. I love the fight win or lose. It’s another person I am interacting with and that makes the difference for me.

jihm.2315:

1)rewards are lets say ok
2)big servers have a lot bad pvp players but they win with more numbers
3)pve you make more gold
4)big servers have a lot more roaming teams so if you decide to roam you wont get far

so is there any reason to do wvw rather than pve and spvp that i did not discover yet?

Dano.5298:

I think its interesting how dang interested people are in the “rewards” side of the game. I mean I get that too but to me, the real reward in the game is wiping some bad guys, helping your team out, etc.

I mean whats more rewarding saving a keep a few were trying desperately to defend or looping around in SW “finding” “hidden” chests?

I think the point is that it doesn’t have to be an either/or situation.

You can do something because you enjoy it and be equally rewarded.

Doesn’t have to be one, or the other.

…and in a game where gold = real money, of course people will be interested in the rewards.

There are many reasons to play WvW:

1) it’s fun! I love outnumbered fighting and being in the losing team because there are always enemies to fight! The larger blind being bad means that you can take your 5-15 man group and wipe 20-30!!!

2) Roaming provides many intreging fights. True, the other server may have MORE roaming groups, just be better than them. Doesn’t matter how many 2 man groups they have if u can kill them all 1v2

3) The community! WvW offers the last true server community in the game, which is something I think Anet has failed at (though I personally view them as succeeding in many many many things int his game, this is a shortcoming). WvW allows you to play effectively with not just your guild, but other players on your server.

If u want to be a PvE gold scrub, be my guest but u r missing out on good fun, and clearly rnt skilled eniugh for WvW

Tigaseye.2047:

Dano.5298:

I think its interesting how dang interested people are in the “rewards” side of the game. I mean I get that too but to me, the real reward in the game is wiping some bad guys, helping your team out, etc.

I mean whats more rewarding saving a keep a few were trying desperately to defend or looping around in SW “finding” “hidden” chests?

I think the point is that it doesn’t have to be an either/or situation.

You can do something because you enjoy it and be equally rewarded.

Doesn’t have to be one, or the other.

…and in a game where gold = real money, of course people will be interested in the rewards.

I don’t really want people to come to WvW for SilverWaste style rewards….
They can graze where they are just fine