Guild Wars 2

that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.

I’d love to know how to do this, but my laser never goes thorough anything and my clones are useless in a siege.

Also, is it intentional that a elem can spam AoE through a door or that a ranger can hit you without LoS? Probably not.

Once in awhile I will see spatial surge ignore los but its random and only lasts for a sec. Illusions I have not seen spawn without Los.

The times it has happened to be have been purely random, or caused by lag. For example, I attack someone with my greatsword attack to “throw” a clone, and they’re in LOS, then go through a tower portal and go inside. Then it can sometimes go into it. And sometimes it goes through the gate when I use the greatsword auto attack for one hit, then doesn’t the others. It’s purely random, and as far as I know there is no way to consistently do it without using a game exploit, in which case its not the class, but an exploit to be fixed.

The spatial surge will do it more often than the clones/illusions since they really only rely on lag..but its nothing to fret about

well the way i saw it used it wasnt coincidence or lag as i had kept killing hordes of clones over and over on a certain pattern wich i wont speak of as other bad players myight try do it.

PS:what is LoS ?

Line of sight.

I had a similar experience today where a mesmer was shooting spatial surge through the wall AND summoning clones too.

Ilesyt.7084:

I had a similar experience today where a mesmer was shooting spatial surge through the wall AND summoning clones too.

I play a Mesmer as my main, and yes the laser beam from GS #1 still attaches to the opponent through objects, BUT, does no damage. Whenever i do it it keeps saying obstructed or if they are far away it does no damage too. It seems the animation for the skill can be activated at any time but through objects and distance it does no damage.

Rezzet.3614:

that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.

A lot of times you think the clone is attacking you but if I spawn an iBeserker on a gate when doing siege it pops up on the wrong end of the gate and only attacks the gate. However if I am attacking someone on a wall and it is obstructed when I use spatial surge then iBeserker will also be obstructed. So it is just where the clones are naturally meant to land is all.

jportell.2197:

Rezzet.3614:

that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.

A lot of times you think the clone is attacking you but if I spawn an iBeserker on a gate when doing siege it pops up on the wrong end of the gate and only attacks the gate. However if I am attacking someone on a wall and it is obstructed when I use spatial surge then iBeserker will also be obstructed. So it is just where the clones are naturally meant to land is all.

that was not the case for me im an engineer so i know better than sticking close to the gate the clones were indeed after me the berserker one hitting me is understandable if i was close but then there was a gunner clone and a spell casting clone with another clone chasing after me and needless to say every time i killed them more popped up after me and not the gate at all.

If someone is doing it constantly, and you are no where NEAR the gate, then it isn’t the class. It’s someone exploiting. And they could do it with any class.

My guess is you were standing near enough to a door or something in LoS from the outside that you were getting hit by our iBerserker spawning on the other side of the door and latching onto you, and seeing the animation of our spatial surge, and just didn’t know enough at the time about mesmers.

The iBerserker does its attack by spinning while going in a straight line. So you might think it is attacking you, but hitting something else in that line which is in LoS of the mesmer. For clarification, it’d be good if it was known if these were mesmer clones or phantasms. Clones will look exactly like the mesmer, and the phantasms look a bit like ghosts in that they are transparent. You shouldn’t see any clones on the other side of a keep, but you could see a phantasm(iBerserker)

Rezzet.3614:

jportell.2197:

Rezzet.3614:

that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.

A lot of times you think the clone is attacking you but if I spawn an iBeserker on a gate when doing siege it pops up on the wrong end of the gate and only attacks the gate. However if I am attacking someone on a wall and it is obstructed when I use spatial surge then iBeserker will also be obstructed. So it is just where the clones are naturally meant to land is all.

that was not the case for me im an engineer so i know better than sticking close to the gate the clones were indeed after me the berserker one hitting me is understandable if i was close but then there was a gunner clone and a spell casting clone with another clone chasing after me and needless to say every time i killed them more popped up after me and not the gate at all.

Its possible the person may have been doing a hack… Like a terrain hack or something… If so screenshot it and report it next time… I hate when people cheat in WvW takes the fun out of it… I heard someone flyhacked a citadel once…

jportell.2197:

Rezzet.3614:

jportell.2197:

Rezzet.3614:

that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.

A lot of times you think the clone is attacking you but if I spawn an iBeserker on a gate when doing siege it pops up on the wrong end of the gate and only attacks the gate. However if I am attacking someone on a wall and it is obstructed when I use spatial surge then iBeserker will also be obstructed. So it is just where the clones are naturally meant to land is all.

that was not the case for me im an engineer so i know better than sticking close to the gate the clones were indeed after me the berserker one hitting me is understandable if i was close but then there was a gunner clone and a spell casting clone with another clone chasing after me and needless to say every time i killed them more popped up after me and not the gate at all.

Its possible the person may have been doing a hack… Like a terrain hack or something… If so screenshot it and report it next time… I hate when people cheat in WvW takes the fun out of it… I heard someone flyhacked a citadel once…

could be an explanation as i was lobbing grenades from about 900 range behind the door so how would they have had me on their LoS or kept spawning clones to me repeatedly the problem isnt that it happened once and it was done, problem was i killed the clones and poof 3 more popped up killed them too and poof even more over and over.

Im a mesmer myself and I can tell you it’s a bug.
It is here since the iBerserker got ‘fixed’ and needed LoS.
Every time I fire a clone or phantasm at the gate it ends up on the inside, I can’t do anything about it and I hate it myself too since the phantasms will easily get killed thus won’t deal damage.

MartyPartys.9187:

Im a mesmer myself and I can tell you it’s a bug.
It is here since the iBerserker got ‘fixed’ and needed LoS.
Every time I fire a clone or phantasm at the gate it ends up on the inside, I can’t do anything about it and I hate it myself too since the phantasms will easily get killed thus won’t deal damage.

the problem is that i was the target in this case not the gate and the clones was still going through the gate, usually when gates are target the clones spawn inside but right behind the gate and start hitting it not the player 900 range away from the gate.

Azerwyn is my 80 mezr and I echo the wierd “buggish” nature of Spatial Surge (1), Mirror Blade (2), and Phantasmal Berserker (4) when it comes to siege combat.

Much of the time I get “Obstructed.” Sometimes I get “Out of Range.” But there are wierd times when I legitimately connect and then the target moves (to an obstructed location)… and auto-attack sometimes (rarely) connects but generally fails.

For my part, I don’t consider it an exploit. This is my basic thought… I don’t care how large your kitten is… and please don’t feel offended, but if I can’t see you then you’re really not significant enough in my world to care about.

I am certain that every enemy Mesmers out there shares your concerns. So please, stop standing behind obstructions and creating all this confusion. Present yourself as a clear target so there is no uncertainty! That way there is no question whether you are exploiting… be a good target!

I find it outright silly that they can.

Be a good little obedient LoS target, too funny.

Every now and then I can fire my abilities through the crack in the gate. Definitely a bug considering I can still target catapults and players behind the door and hit them if I position correctly. Works for every other class as well.