Guild Wars 2

release HoT, xfer everyone to their home server at first login after release, lock xfers.

then you can start monitoring server data and make smart decisions about server/pop #s anet, and better hassess (really…can’t spell it without the h) the need for the terrible idea that is alliances.

if HoT is supposed to draw pve/x-ers into wvw, then let’s reset everything and make server pride matter again, and see what happens.

gvg-ers can go to the new gvg area, pvp-ers to the pvp area, and maybe we can finally play wvw without the 1%-ers who post on gw2wvw in the T1/T2 threads screwing things up for the rest of us.

one problem solved

~psyco~

So break apart every guild/community? lol

I’ve always thought a do-over knowing what we know now would be a good way to revitalize & fix a lot of the population imbalance problems. I am probably being a bit selfish since it would affect me personally and my world (JQ, likely TC as well) less than most given JQ started out as the “World Pride” choice for guilds that were not going to be into transferring. I see a lot of the same names around today in WvW as at launch plus a whole of new faces as well of course.

Rather than tearing guilds and communities apart with this solution ANET would have to bite the bullet (providing they really do have this active WvW population metric figured out) and allow guilds some kind of power to move members to their chosen WvW world (buy with influence maybe?) to ease the chaos of getting everyone back together again but still suitability distributed. I think this would require more communication from ANET than we currently accustomed to so we know where the full worlds will be the kinds of queues players will face and I can’t say communication is their strong suit so it going smoothly doesn’t seem likely.

Vermillion.4061:

So break apart every guild/community? lol

look, straight up…are you gonna pretend that the current situation HASN’T “broken apart guilds and communities” already, and doesn’t continue to? plz

honestly just stick everyone back at homeworld. if you don’t like it, buy another acct. most have multiples anyway.

psyco.4082:

Vermillion.4061:

So break apart every guild/community? lol

look, straight up…are you gonna pretend that the current situation HASN’T “broken apart guilds and communities” already, and doesn’t continue to? plz

honestly just stick everyone back at homeworld. if you don’t like it, buy another acct. most have multiples anyway.

No the current situation hasn’t broke up guilds and communities but your idea sure will.. Players are the ones that break up guilds because when they constantly transfer all over the place, people lose friendships they have made during all those transfers.

You think every time guilds transfer every single member follows them? Maybe some do but not all the time. Lots of guilds left my server since I started to play this game and I read other forums. Most of those guilds never last, end up rebuilding under a new name with new members, come back over time and join guilds with their old friends they left or decide to quit because its not much better where they went.

You know what? If you don’t like the current situation, but another account.

This sounds like the least simple idea ever. The server pops werent balanced at launch either. I remember when i was first picking a server, I chose from the highest pop with the shortest name (so its less visable) which was black gate. I almost chose kaineng but I dont know what a kaineng is and it sounded dumb.

Server pride? Never aquired any on bg. It was some time later I met some friends in a dungeon run and I transferred to their server (despite its irritatingly long name) so we could run wvw together.

If it werent for the community on my server I prolly wouldnt still be playing gw2. We dont win all that often but we rarely have ques! Some ppl just want to win but nvr have to play wvw. Thats what I think of the over stacked servers and hour long ques.

Thats the trade off, play wvw when ever you want but not always gonna win. We notice when our friends are missing. Its a lot of pressure too, some times i think it would be nice to be an anonymous 1 spamming minion on bg again.

Is there no middle ground? I think thats the real answer we want.

Your idea will possibly destroy wvw and probably the game. No thanks.

I like this idea.

psyco.4082:

release HoT, xfer everyone to their home server at first login after release, lock xfers.

then you can start monitoring server data and make smart decisions about server/pop #s anet

No offense but they just announced that they have a system, so I don’t really get why people think it would be a good time to make suggestions – it’s already settled.

Jana.6831:

No offense but they just announced that they have a system, so I don’t really get why people think it would be a good time to make suggestions – it’s already settled.

i’m not sure the data they’ll get will be very useful at a finer scale. because top servers are stacked with users who have multiple accts, the numbers can be manipulated and likely will be. and briggah, i’m not sure what your point is about this. what you describe is exactly what we currently have and why locking xfers and reshuffling is important.

also…“destroy…the game” really…
that seems a bit extreme considering the other ideas out there like Alliances.

fine Syno, granted not everyone will want to be on their home server, so give everyone a 1 time use, free xfer token, but no vendor for at least 6 months and 1 season. collect some good data, and then make decisions about how to move forward.

i mean hears the thing, this idea is easily fixable compared to other ideas that have more permanent impacts. hell, they could do it while they write the code for Alliances or server mergers for crying out loud, and see what the data shows them. i’d be into it just to change up the stale, manipulated matches and give us something different to go with the new content.

was just pointing out this idea not so simple and wouldnt actually solve the problem you want fixed.
ok heres simple:
6hrs wvw match ups with auto upgrades like the live streams showed us.
earn 100 point for capturing a tower
earn 200 points for t2 upgrades
earn 300 points for t3 upgrades
continue earning 100 points every 15m there after until the enemy captures it.
maybe double that point structure for keeps/garri
four games per day, total wins up at the end of the week, adjust glicko.

the way wvw works now going on for 7 days, its evolved into pushing numbers into the map, steam rolling everything for a few hours and hoping we dont get night capped too hard.

shorter games would allow for complex strategies and team comps to develop. a whole week and ppl lose focus on what their doing. instead of saying… oh we’re doing well now but it doesnt matter cause other time zone is weak and the enemy catches up.
imagine a close game that you just have to hold your lead for another 30m for a win? youd be personally invested in that, I would get excited and push harder. then if your losing you get to try again in a few hours, its only one loss out of 4. even if your server loses every game at least your spawn keeps and garri arent waypointed for the enemy all the time.

psyco.4082:

Vermillion.4061:

So break apart every guild/community? lol

look, straight up…are you gonna pretend that the current situation HASN’T “broken apart guilds and communities” already, and doesn’t continue to? plz

Be real. How has the current situation broken apart guilds and communities? The current situation is guilds and communities moving together. If you didn’t move when your community did, that was your choice.

Asking Anet to enforce a break of current guilds and communities who SELF-SELECTED to stay together in the manner they have is a non-solution before it gets out the door. You want to take away individual players’ choices.

So my guild’s been around for around 2.5 years now but over half are transfers, some who’ve transferred years ago too… You want to break up my guild?

I guess there’s that saying about opinions and orifices…

Chaba.5410:

How has the current situation broken apart guilds and communities?

oh come on chaba, you had to be laughing as you typed that…anyone who’s been on a server that got bandwagonned for a season can attest to the damage open xfers creates.

threads are littered with people fed up with the current situation.

but here’s the real point…“[I] want to take away individual players’ choices.”
nah…i just want the individual to actually have a choice in wvw instead of a few who think they know what’s best.

and Reverence, i guess i don’t care about your one, singular, particular guild in this case…i suspect all our guilds have similar stories at this point. xfers have created this, and it is something that would have to be figured out…oh wait, like i said, give everyone a free xfer, just not right away.

psyco.4082:

Chaba.5410:

How has the current situation broken apart guilds and communities?

oh come on chaba, you had to be laughing as you typed that…anyone who’s been on a server that got bandwagonned for a season can attest to the damage open xfers creates.

threads are littered with people fed up with the current situation.

but here’s the real point…“[I] want to take away individual players’ choices.”
nah…i just want the individual to actually have a choice in wvw instead of a few who think they know what’s best.

and Reverence, i guess i don’t care about your one, singular, particular guild in this case…i suspect all our guilds have similar stories at this point. xfers have created this, and it is something that would have to be figured out…oh wait, like i said, give everyone a free xfer, just not right away.

I was laughing at the fact that you made an assertion and didn’t provide any rationale behind it. So I asked for one. Instead you return with an appeal to common belief (i.e., ‘anyone… can attest’).

You’re also being very disingenuous saying that you want individuals to have a choice in WvW. You wrote that you want players to have to go back to their starting home servers. There is no choice to be had in that. Contrast that with what happens right now: individuals have a choice. They have the power of self-selection, the ability to choose which guilds and server communities they want to be a part of. If they chose not to be a member of your community, that isn’t Anet’s job to fix.

Guilds and players choose the “community” they want to be a part of right now. For me they would move me back to CD, which I would be okay with, but what about people that would be moved back to ET?

Just because current players were moved back to their original server doesn’t mean that that original server would be relevant again. I imagine that enough ET players have quit the game that ET would still be low on the totem pole. What about individuals that have left home servers, and set up shop in another server? They left for a reason. Bad idea is bad.

folks the most important decision in the game is when u first bought the game and chose a server.

No no, was for 1 month back sep/oct 2012 at other server before i moved to SFR.