Guild Wars 2

My biggest problem with WvWvW (after the lack of waypoints) is the terrible wait times. i think it is broken to wait for 30min+ to get into a map (often to find they suck).

something must be done. i have never seen wait times to enter maps in mmos and they shouldn’t exist.

Well can only fix so many players into a WvW map and have everything on the server run correctly. Also, it is reset night, so you should expect queues in the upper tiers servers.

then make two maps.

Transfer to lower populated server? Isnt this obvious? I almost never have a queue for WvW and we have a healthy WvW population and good matches. Reminds me of Horde players from WoW who complain since years that queues for battlegrounds were too long.

They made 4 maps.

Porky.5021:

They made 4 maps.

i guess one could say they made 2 maps and then used 1 3 times, but they should make 2 of each map.

Biggest issue is,getting disconnecte randomly ( knowing its Not on your end ) an then having to queue Again…if that happens 2 – 3 times in a row,i quit.

Also,transferring to the lowest pop bl is Not a problem solver when you’re party is in EB an that’s where you want to play atm.

So im being forced to another map because of frequent disconnects,the other maps being full,and the queue being way to long ? How is this a good thing..

Plenty of space in a lower tier. This isn’t an issue that needs to be addressed. You want Tier 1 pop, you get Tier 1 queues. You want Tier 6 queues, You get Tier 6 pop. You don’t get both.

Rashagal.5867:

Plenty of space in a lower tier. This isn’t an issue that needs to be addressed. You want Tier 1 pop, you get Tier 1 queues. You want Tier 6 queues, You get Tier 6 pop. You don’t get both.

i don’t see why that should be the case when they can copy and paste the maps again. 3/4 are already copied and pasted.

vespers.1759:

Rashagal.5867:

Plenty of space in a lower tier. This isn’t an issue that needs to be addressed. You want Tier 1 pop, you get Tier 1 queues. You want Tier 6 queues, You get Tier 6 pop. You don’t get both.

i don’t see why that should be the case when they can copy and paste the maps again. 3/4 are already copied and pasted.

Maybe because the lower population servers would get deserted maps? Blame the big bandwagons for long queues while some servers get outmanned in 3/4 maps 24/7.

Jeknar.6184:

vespers.1759:

Rashagal.5867:

Plenty of space in a lower tier. This isn’t an issue that needs to be addressed. You want Tier 1 pop, you get Tier 1 queues. You want Tier 6 queues, You get Tier 6 pop. You don’t get both.

i don’t see why that should be the case when they can copy and paste the maps again. 3/4 are already copied and pasted.

Maybe because the lower population servers would get deserted maps? Blame the big bandwagons for long queues while some servers get outmanned in 3/4 maps 24/7.

Precisely this IMHO.

Simply adding more maps defeats the purpose of having map pops doesn’t it? Perhaps I am wrong, but I was under the impression that 150/map was so you couldn’t have 300 people around on a map where the other servers in the tier couldn’t even field 100/map. In tier 6 there is only a queue on 1-2 maps for a few hours right after reset. And to my knowledge, Tier 4 is where you start to have 24 hour presence, but still don’t have queues outside of prime time and not on all maps. (correct me if I’m wrong here.)

Adding more maps seems like avoiding the problem: Your tier is overcrowded. That’s what the free server transfers were supposed to be for, but instead everyone used them to bandwagon and move to higher servers instead of transferring off of crowded ones. Perhaps if they allowed free xfers to lower pop servers, or released some census data on the pops of each server, better decisions could be made, but making a HUGE blanket change to WvW will end up killing the WvW experience for any tier below 3. Maps will become deserted and night capping will have a more dramatic effect, not to mention on the lower tiers it will be so desolate it would cease to be PvP, and become entirely PvDoor on everything but EB.

If you want to change queue times, the best way in my opinion is to ask Anet to pull some data together on the current server pops, and allow a specific amount of free server transfers to lower pop servers. Either that, or guest on some lower pop servers and shell out the gems for it yourself.

Disparate queues, uneven matches, and stagnant tiers are NEVER going to go away unless ANet changes WvW to some sort of faction system instead of being server based.

Rashagal.5867:

That’s what the free server transfers were supposed to be for, but instead everyone used them to bandwagon and move to higher servers instead of transferring off of crowded ones.

+1

Overflow servers just for fun! Not with the mstchup servers but for everyone! Like you randomly get into a team and start fighting till queue shows up.

Same gameplay, no queues to play!

loseros.5912:

Overflow servers just for fun! Not with the mstchup servers but for everyone! Like you randomly get into a team and start fighting till queue shows up.

Same gameplay, no queues to play!

WvW overflow would be pretty amusing. Throw everyone queuing into one big arena and let them fight it out =/

Then again the server with the biggest queue will also have the biggest zerg in overflow so whatever. Creative way to see queue sizes xD

ykyk.2740:

loseros.5912:

Overflow servers just for fun! Not with the mstchup servers but for everyone! Like you randomly get into a team and start fighting till queue shows up.

Same gameplay, no queues to play!

WvW overflow would be pretty amusing. Throw everyone queuing into one big arena and let them fight it out =/

Then again the server with the biggest queue will also have the biggest zerg in overflow so whatever. Creative way to see queue sizes xD

WvW in overflow becomes “Deathmatch” … Everyone vs Everyone (EvE)

Gwalchgwn.1659:

ykyk.2740:

loseros.5912:

Overflow servers just for fun! Not with the mstchup servers but for everyone! Like you randomly get into a team and start fighting till queue shows up.

Same gameplay, no queues to play!

WvW overflow would be pretty amusing. Throw everyone queuing into one big arena and let them fight it out =/

Then again the server with the biggest queue will also have the biggest zerg in overflow so whatever. Creative way to see queue sizes xD

WvW in overflow becomes “Deathmatch” … Everyone vs Everyone (EvE)

that would be fantastic. there doesn’t even need to be objectives. they just need something to fill the void.

there are two things to do at 80 and that’s dungeons and wvwvw. you can’t really do dungeons while queued so that leaves standing around twiddling your thumbs until you get in.

no
deal with it
not playing is the price you pay for calling yourself a winner

Blizzard off free transfers to low population servers and I think Anet should do this too.

Of course people wont get the same fights in lower servers, so an incentive must be made to make it appealable for some people to go. But then I think the numbers should be limited and kept up to date. Afterall you dont want to have a guild decide to move only to then find only half of them were able to transfer.

But yes, thanks to the hugely expanded time of free transfers, WvW is a bit of a mess.

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

Blizzard off free transfers to low population servers and I think Anet should do this too.

Of course people wont get the same fights in lower servers, so an incentive must be made to make it appealable for some people to go. But then I think the numbers should be limited and kept up to date. Afterall you dont want to have a guild decide to move only to then find only half of them were able to transfer.

But yes, thanks to the hugely expanded time of free transfers, WvW is a bit of a mess.

Blizzard doesn’t have WvW populations to worry about. Since it’s Horde vs Alliance on the same server.

The issue with doing what you suggest is it’ll start this never ending escalator. Big guilds push server to Tier 1 > big guild tired of queues > they transfer to T9 server > T9 server makes it’s way up to T1 > rinse/repeat

Don’t stack on the same 5 servers as anyone else.

i love how everyone complains about my server when they have don’t know which server i play on and that i have played on the same server almost my whole time in gw2.

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

Blizzard off free transfers to low population servers and I think Anet should do this too.

Of course people wont get the same fights in lower servers, so an incentive must be made to make it appealable for some people to go. But then I think the numbers should be limited and kept up to date. Afterall you dont want to have a guild decide to move only to then find only half of them were able to transfer.

But yes, thanks to the hugely expanded time of free transfers, WvW is a bit of a mess.

You’re talking apples and grapes. Blizzard matches faction versus faction, not server versus server. In addition, they group servers into battlegroups, which gives them the flexibility to move servers around from battlegroup to battlegroup to balance queues.

vespers.1759:

i love how everyone complains about my server when they have don’t know which server i play on and that i have played on the same server almost my whole time in gw2.

For your complaints… I’d say you’re on JQ. But you could be on BG too now that SoS BADwagoned there, problably creating abusive queue sizes… SoR problably would be an option too since the SBI crew joined.

Now if you are from the Euro league, I have no idea.

vespers.1759:

i love how everyone complains about my server when they have don’t know which server i play on and that i have played on the same server almost my whole time in gw2.

It doesn’t matter which high pop server you’re on, nor how long you’ve been there. High pop servers have queues, but the rest of them don’t. The lower half of tiers (and maybe into T4 and T3, I’m not on those so I can’t say) will not ever see a queue outside of just after reset. Even at reset, the queue will only ever be for EB and home BL. If you don’t like queues, you’ll have to transfer. That’s the only solution currently available, and really the only solution that could ever work.