Guild Wars 2

1.4g, 1k karma (As opposed to 10k prepatch with a 7k minimum) uninfused ring (Seriously? Uninfused?) and 81 relics (Previously 152)

Is this a bug or intended?

U think 49 sucks? Then go and see what u get at 50 …

Just a joke. Level 49 fractals give 1.4g gold when 9 minute AC p1 gives 1.5g? Infused rings no longer guaranteed and infused rings made weaker? Just ridiculous.

On top of that the most hated Dredge fractal was made even longer than it used to be by removing all the tricks we used before to be able to do it. Instead of removing all the tricks maybe the developers should think about why the players use certain tactics.

Did a 35: Got 10k karma, 1.3g and an infused ring… It must be a bug that 30s get such larger rewards than 49…

Isn’t the rewards based on which Fractals you actually get though?
So if you get 3 short/easy ones you will get less rewards than if you get a long and/or kittene.

Relativity.3264:

1.4g, 1k karma (As opposed to 10k prepatch with a 7k minimum) uninfused ring (Seriously? Uninfused?) and 81 relics (Previously 152)

Is this a bug or intended?

The karma you get is dependant on your personal reward level. Considering your level is 50 and you are doing 49, you will only get ~1k karma. If you did a 40 now, you would get 10k karma.

Pre-patch there was no ‘’7k minimum’’. It seems to work the same way as far as I can tell.

It also seems they decided to now replace the final relics with empyreal shards.
Previously they only added them, but seems they went back on that decision.
Aside from that the amount of fractal relics are already more than enough in my opinion. And they’re not thát useful that you will miss them that much.

The money is quite negligible. But you should take the complete rewards and not just focus on the gold. Aside from that I do think it could / should be more.

Relativity.3264:

1.4g, 1k karma (As opposed to 10k prepatch with a 7k minimum) uninfused ring (Seriously? Uninfused?) and 81 relics (Previously 152)

Is this a bug or intended?

The reason u got 1k karma because u still in the same tier 41-50 unlike last fracs where everyone 51+ they get a bonus.

Lol, bet they nerfed fractal weapon and ascended boxes rates too.. Turn off

Weirdly I got a wupwup weapon on a level 30, and I never got one on my 48s… It’s very weird.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Weirdly I got a wupwup weapon on a level 30, and I never got one on my 48s… It’s very weird.

I got a Occams chest on a 38 pre-patch, keep in mind that the rate for a 48 ascended box is ~2%, you just got really lucky on your 30

Kingteranas.1376:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Weirdly I got a wupwup weapon on a level 30, and I never got one on my 48s… It’s very weird.

I got a Occams chest on a 38 pre-patch, keep in mind that the rate for a 48 ascended box is ~2%, you just got really lucky on your 30

I’m happy about the wupwup skin, it’s gorgeous. Not the stats I want, but still. I felt pretty lucky.

I’ve gotten six chests and all of them have come from old frac 38 or lower :S

To everyone saying “1k is normal” – it’s not. The previous formula was:

6400 + 8 * fractalLevel * min(10, level – fractalLevel) – resulting in a minimum of 6400 karma for doing any fractal below your level.

Either it’s bugged or they made the karma gain much more severely dependant on your level

They nerfed karma gain across the board a couple patches ago.

I love playing FOTM for the challenge, however, I’m also trying to save up money for Legandary. 2h run and ~3-5G max (selling everything) in just pathetic. I could just mindlessly boss farm and get more money. Not to mention AC P1 + AC P3 ~40min gives you 3G+.
Come on arena net.

Still didn’t get fractal skin since this patch arrived. Before I at least got 1 skin every 2-3 days. Nothing yet… Oh wait non- infused rings at 30 + woot

Its riddled with bugs. At this point I would just worry about progressing so when the bugs are fixed you can go right back to w/e level you plan on farming.

Compared to some lower lvls, in my opinion fotm 49 is easy mode, so I wouldn’t make it sound like we’re doing anything special. As for rewards of course they are bad, it’s arenanet, what did you expect?

The only way they look at the reward chests is if we QQ hard enough, which frankly is not worth it.

Fun facts. From the reset to 30 and until the “new” 49 (done multiple times), I got:

• zero recipes
• zero fractal weapons
• zero more than +1 infusion

Don’t even start me on how unbalanced (time wise) are the final encounters (Maw vs Mai vs Dumb and Dumber), they could at least increase the loot quality based on final boss version.

Ok so I’m going to throw my hat into this fray with my personal experiences.

270+ daily runs, most are 28 and 30+ level dailies. I didn’t go on higher runs all that often because quality teams were sketchy at best and my usual groups weren’t all on at the same times.

I’ve gotten 15 fractal weapons EVER. I’m seeing people talking about bank tabs full of them for much fewer runs.

I’ve never gotten an ascended weapon chest. Ever. I’m seeing people talking about getting up over 10 since they were introduced.

I’ve also never gotten a precursor drop, from the forge, or otherwise.

My RNG is apparently stuck on a scale much much MUCH lower than everyone else’s who plays this game.

That or half the people saying this stuff are lying through their teeth.

I’m willing to entertain both. But if it’s the first case, then ANET, GIVE ME A kitten BONE HERE.

@ AKGeo.6048 :
a guild mate just got her first fractal weapon after 650runs, i have 9 fractal weapons with 500 runs (i’m the luckiest in the guild) and none of us got ascended chest… so i think you shouldn’t be so worried about drop rates….

AKGeo.6048:

270+ daily runs, most are 28 and 30+ level dailies.
….
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And there is the problem.

Around 230 Daily runs and I am one of those guys who got around 50 Fractal Weapons. Why? because I ran almost every day of gaming 2 level 48. If you want a higher chance you must run a higher level. That is. To me it looks like people just want everything easiest as posible. Im not a RNG fan, but doing relative low level fractals and QQ about no skins is just… Fractal weapons are suposed to be hard to get, if you really want them then run the level with higher chances or don’t QQ at all.

And about the topic…yes, Fractal’s rewards were terrible and still they are. There are only 2 real reasons to run them: fun and skins. If any of both reasons are ok for you just don’t go because isn’t worth it.

I’d love to see picture of those 50 weapons.

Nick.6972:

I’d love to see picture of those 50 weapons.

This is an old pic. I have like 3 or 4 more now. Why would people want to lie? My experience say that every player who just perma run lvl 48 has near the same number of weapons. So yes, its RNG but people must put the tools to increase their luck instead just sit here and whine.

^Did You by any chance also got a precursor with the first forge gamble?

I’ve no idea how many times I’ve run fractals, more than 200, but I’ve only got just 1 skin, a bow, which I cant use.