Guild Wars 2

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The Sovereign skins are very cool, some of my favorites so far. I’d describe them but I don’t think I would be able to do them justice. You’ll just have to log in and see.

So give us screenshots of them

Arshay Duskbrow.1306:

Zietlogik.6208:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Those weapons are part of the new champion loot drops which include a bunch of new skins like the one in the picture. Also the rapier.

The Sovereign set is completely different, and available from the vendors inside the Crown Pavilion.

Hey Anthony, pitch the idea of Warriors getting pistols! with the rapier being a potential drop, I wanna be an Effin pirate! YARRR

Then make a thief like you’re supposed to.

Anyway, disappointed that the rapier is going to be released in this manner. Prices on the trading post are bound to be absurd, 200+ gold if not higher. I wish it had been another 800 gem BL store skin.

….or you could just kill every Champion you run across and possibly get one for free…

Patience is a virtue for a reason.

Not to mention 800 gems equals roughly 16g to 26g depending on whether you buy with cash or convert gold.

How long do you think it will take a weapon that drops from a boss to fall to those prices? Not long my friend, not long indeed!

yes if you look at a famous staff that was the most desired for long it went from 80 G to 20 in 1 week.

LordByron.8369:

yes if you look at a famous staff that was the most desired for long it went from 80 G to 20 in 1 week.

To finally rest at about 3G.

Evans.6347:

LordByron.8369:

yes if you look at a famous staff that was the most desired for long it went from 80 G to 20 in 1 week.

To finally rest at about 3G.

…so I got it on a whim

After Anthony’s comment I’m now carefully optimistic about at least having a chance to get the rapier, if it will be tradeable via TP(albeit super expensive).

Traveller.7496:

After Anthony’s comment I’m now carefully optimistic about at least having a chance to get the rapier, if it will be tradeable via TP(albeit super expensive).

I recon it will be a direct gem purchase eventually.

Equilibriator.8741:

Traveller.7496:

After Anthony’s comment I’m now carefully optimistic about at least having a chance to get the rapier, if it will be tradeable via TP(albeit super expensive).

I recon it will be a direct gem purchase eventually.

Or will be put into the black lion ticket kitten.

Celestina.2894:

They’re likely the Sovereign weapons.

No – David Bowie would never wield such unsightly items!

Overall this update is incredible. Account wallet, permanent finishers, the list can go on about what I’m excited for in this update. What I am not excited for, however, is the seeming introduction of Hall of Monument weapons into the game as drops.

People worked hard for Hall of Monuments updates and now you’re releasing 1-handed Fellblades that have cooler effects than the actual HoM one? That just doesn’t seem right to me. And considering that’s all we’ve seen, who knows what other previously HoM skins will be released in the future?

Why even do HoM at all if you can just get better versions of the reward items in GW2? I hope I’m just missing something here, because I’m really disappointed in this particular aspect of the update. Don’t get me wrong those new Fellblades look awesome (I’m sure they won’t be called that… Or maybe they will who knows), but that’s the problem. They completely diminish even earning the 23 point HoM reward.

What are your guys’ thoughts on this?

Better is a very relative term. To me the pink/purple inscriptions absolutely destroy that sword and make it much much worse. Also, really how many people do you see running around with the HOM weapons because they think they are prestigious?

Parisalchuk.9230:

Better is a very relative term. To me the pink/purple inscriptions absolutely destroy that sword and make it much much worse. Also, really how many people do you see running around with the HOM weapons because they think they are prestigious?

I use them. But no I wasn’t talking about the pink because I think that’s a disgrace to the Fellblade (which was ONE of the better looking swords in GW1) I am talking about the smoke around it.

In GW1 the fellblade had mist inside the blade that was animated. The GW2 counterpart had like purple smoke bellowing off of it and you can hardly notice it. This new one appears to have great new affects surrounding it.

And it’s not about how many people run around with them. The rewards were exclusive to GW1 players who completed certain tiers of HoM. Does it not seem wrong that they’re introducing variations of those weapons in GW2?

I’m not saying I won’t use them if I get one, because I absolutely will, I just feel like it’s kind of a punch to the face to anyone who completed HoM. Who knows what’s next?

Hmm… I don’t see one-handed mini-Fellblade replicas in the HoM… I must have missed that achievement.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Those weapons are part of the new champion loot drops which include a bunch of new skins like the one in the picture. Also the rapier.

The Sovereign set is completely different, and available from the vendors inside the Crown Pavilion.

I’m actually really sad about hearing this because I had hoped these swords would be part of a new weapon set. I’m a big fan of the old Tormented weapons from Guild Wars 1 and when I saw these fellblades with magenta swirls I just knew I had to get a scepter/dagger set like that. :’(

I know there’s the nightmare set but I’m not fond of their twiggy appearance.

VOLKON.1290:

Hmm… I don’t see one-handed mini-Fellblade replicas in the HoM… I must have missed that achievement.

Same style as the two-handed weapon, but I think you know that.

I kinda figured they’d make HoM rewards less unique as the game got older, just like when they put the Bonus Mission Pack up to buy when they originally said it was only for those who pre-purchased Eye of the North.

Just one of those things.

Why must the developers not make a similar item that all GW2 players can enjoy?

Spanex.1950:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Those weapons are part of the new champion loot drops which include a bunch of new skins like the one in the picture. Also the rapier.

The Sovereign set is completely different, and available from the vendors inside the Crown Pavilion.

I’m actually really sad about hearing this because I had hoped these swords would be part of a new weapon set. I’m a big fan of the old Tormented weapons from Guild Wars 1 and when I saw these fellblades with magenta swirls I just knew I had to get a scepter/dagger set like that. :’(

I know there’s the nightmare set but I’m not fond of their twiggy appearance.

He said they were part of a “bunch of new skins” so there might be a scepter or dagger version in there somewhere. We’ll have to wait and see.

Mkalafut.1273:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Better is a very relative term. To me the pink/purple inscriptions absolutely destroy that sword and make it much much worse. Also, really how many people do you see running around with the HOM weapons because they think they are prestigious?

I use them. But no I wasn’t talking about the pink because I think that’s a disgrace to the Fellblade (which was ONE of the better looking swords in GW1) I am talking about the smoke around it.

In GW1 the fellblade had mist inside the blade that was animated. The GW2 counterpart had like purple smoke bellowing off of it and you can hardly notice it. This new one appears to have great new affects surrounding it.

And it’s not about how many people run around with them. The rewards were exclusive to GW1 players who completed certain tiers of HoM. Does it not seem wrong that they’re introducing variations of those weapons in GW2?

I’m not saying I won’t use them if I get one, because I absolutely will, I just feel like it’s kind of a punch to the face to anyone who completed HoM. Who knows what’s next?

And the 2-H Fellblade remains unique and exclusive to players of GW1 who got to a certain tier. Should we be upset that they released a Charr mini pet because they are similar to the HOM rewards? Or more cat minis like the Orange Tabby from HOM?

Celestina.2894:

Getefix.9150:

Blackmoon.6837:

SpeedFiend.4521:

What happened to Fellblades being a unique reward?

As long as the clean version is still only obtainable via gw1, then it’ll remain unique.

but if this one looks better, theres no point to it existing anymore since no one would get them

Looks are subjective

I should also point out this is not the first case like this, Fiery Dragon Sword vs Jormag’s Breath being the one I recall.

Icy Dragon Swords were in GW1 as well. They are completely separate from Fiery Dragon Swords. I agree that it’s pretty wrong of them to make reskinned 1h Fellblades that look better than the original one.

They’re purplish/pinkish and 1 handed, so I’m alright with them being added to the game and don’t feel they detract from the 2 handed fellblade one of my guardians uses.

As people are saying in another thread,
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/New-Fellblades/first

The new ones look better and are 1 handed. So yes they are not the original Fellblade, but as one user says,
“if this one looks better, theres no point to it existing anymore since no one would get them.”
I agree with this. Looks are subjective, but obvious improvements to appearance and effects on the weapon originally intended for HoM is just wrong.

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

mojowalker.3798:

They’re purplish/pinkish and 1 handed, so I’m alright with them being added to the game and don’t feel they detract from the 2 handed fellblade one of my guardians uses.

Like I said, I see both points but I’m still just kind of peeved that they’d do this. I feel like at the very least they should update the original Fellblade appearance then to make it look as cool.

And no I’m not saying make it pink I’m saying make the smoke look better like it is in that screenshot.

Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

Mkalafut.1273:

Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

Your missing the point…

HOM promised FDS as an exclusive – GW2 adds IDS for all to get that is LITERALLY an exact replica with different coloring

HOM promised Fellblade as an exclusive – GW2 adds a different weapon type with a resized skin with added effects

How at all are these different, and thus how at all can you be ok with 1 and not the other? If your going with IDS was GW1, Fellblade in GW1 was a 1-H sword. In that case you should be upset that the HOM rewarded you with something not even in the game.

I’m a huge fan of the fellblade. I use it more often than any other. This update is a step up and I can’t wait.

It doesn’t matter to me if ppl prefer it over my hom reward. Whatever. As lon as I can get a GS version of this update.

Mkalafut.1273:

Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

You’re either not understanding the point or using a serious double standard

At the end of the day, if Jormag’s Breath is acceptable, then so is this.

Personally, as someone who did work hard to get 30/50 in HoM I can’t really say it bothers me at all.

That being said, making the smoke on Fellblade more noticeable would be a welcome change.

Zypher.7609:

Why must the developers not make a similar item that all GW2 players can enjoy?

Guild Wars 1 players worked their butts off for some of those rewards.

I’m ok with them being added to the game, they’re a bit different to the Fellblade, but, it’s a slipperly slope. How long until all HoM skins are just rehashed slightly for self entitled GW2-only players to obtain?

Sarie.1630:

Zypher.7609:

Why must the developers not make a similar item that all GW2 players can enjoy?

Guild Wars 1 players worked their butts off for some of those rewards.

I’m ok with them being added to the game, they’re a bit different to the Fellblade, but, it’s a slipperly slope. How long until all HoM skins are just rehashed slightly for self entitled GW2-only players to obtain?

Getting 30/50 was not really ‘work your butt off’. Hard, maybe, not overly difficult and pretty common. 50/50 and GWAM, that was ‘work your butt off’ to get.

Celestina.2894:

Mkalafut.1273:

Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

You’re either not understanding the point or using a serious double standard

At the end of the day, if Jormag’s Breath is acceptable, then so is this.

Personally, as someone who did work hard to get 30/50 in HoM I can’t really say it bothers me at all.

That being said, making the smoke on Fellblade more noticeable would be a welcome change.

I do not have a double standard, as IDS was never reserved for a HoM only skin.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Mkalafut.1273:

Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

Your missing the point…

HOM promised FDS as an exclusive – GW2 adds IDS for all to get that is LITERALLY an exact replica with different coloring

HOM promised Fellblade as an exclusive – GW2 adds a different weapon type with a resized skin with added effects

How at all are these different, and thus how at all can you be ok with 1 and not the other? If your going with IDS was GW1, Fellblade in GW1 was a 1-H sword. In that case you should be upset that the HOM rewarded you with something not even in the game.

Also if you pay attention, Breath of Jormag and FDS are not the same skin. The FDS has a larger flame affect and is a larger sword overall than the Breath of Jormag.

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Spanex.1950:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Those weapons are part of the new champion loot drops which include a bunch of new skins like the one in the picture. Also the rapier.

The Sovereign set is completely different, and available from the vendors inside the Crown Pavilion.

I’m actually really sad about hearing this because I had hoped these swords would be part of a new weapon set. I’m a big fan of the old Tormented weapons from Guild Wars 1 and when I saw these fellblades with magenta swirls I just knew I had to get a scepter/dagger set like that. :’(

I know there’s the nightmare set but I’m not fond of their twiggy appearance.

He said they were part of a “bunch of new skins” so there might be a scepter or dagger version in there somewhere. We’ll have to wait and see.

As much as I’d love to share your optimism, I think it’s more likely that these other skins are not going to be part of a set with similar style and the same name.

Back to wishful thinking for an eventual re-release of Tormented then. >>

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Zypher.7609:

Why must the developers not make a similar item that all GW2 players can enjoy?

Guild Wars 1 players worked their butts off for some of those rewards.

I’m ok with them being added to the game, they’re a bit different to the Fellblade, but, it’s a slipperly slope. How long until all HoM skins are just rehashed slightly for self entitled GW2-only players to obtain?

That’s why I made this thread. It’s a slippery slope and this is the beginning. If this is seen as ok and people don’t speak up about it, what’s next?

will the skins be tradeable?

Fellblade looks to be overall larger and does not have the same look as the new 1h sword. So by that same logic, these are two different skins.

Again, you’re using a double standard.

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Icy Dragon Swords were in GW1 as well. They are completely separate from Fiery Dragon Swords. I agree that it’s pretty wrong of them to make reskinned 1h Fellblades that look better than the original one.

I don’t think it is fair for the community to think that ANet has to be locked into “no better designs” mentality just because there are unique weapons that you can get in other ways. The game is going to progress whether people like it or not. New skins will be offered. Over time even the legendary weapons will seem not as desirable as the new versions.

Looks are subjective, new designs and items are introduced in ALL MMOs. It’s just how it is, get used to it.

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Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

You’re either not understanding the point or using a serious double standard

At the end of the day, if Jormag’s Breath is acceptable, then so is this.

Personally, as someone who did work hard to get 30/50 in HoM I can’t really say it bothers me at all.

That being said, making the smoke on Fellblade more noticeable would be a welcome change.

I do not have a double standard, as IDS was never reserved for a HoM only skin.

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Mkalafut.1273:

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You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

Your missing the point…

HOM promised FDS as an exclusive – GW2 adds IDS for all to get that is LITERALLY an exact replica with different coloring

HOM promised Fellblade as an exclusive – GW2 adds a different weapon type with a resized skin with added effects

How at all are these different, and thus how at all can you be ok with 1 and not the other? If your going with IDS was GW1, Fellblade in GW1 was a 1-H sword. In that case you should be upset that the HOM rewarded you with something not even in the game.

Also if you pay attention, Breath of Jormag and FDS are not the same skin. The FDS has a larger flame affect and is a larger sword overall than the Breath of Jormag.

Neither was this new skin based around the fellblade…. just like the IDS is based around the FDS….. Both non HOM skins are slight varients of HOM weapons…

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Fellblade looks to be overall larger and does not have the same look as the new 1h sword. So by that same logic, these are two different skins.

Again, you’re using a double standard.

Well no kidding. The HoM reward is a 2h and the new one is a 1h, no kidding it looks bigger. You can not argue that this new sword is not a shrinked down, recolored Fellblade.

Also to settle this IDS vs FDS argument, they are not identical. See attachment.

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Mkalafut.1273:

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Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

You’re either not understanding the point or using a serious double standard

At the end of the day, if Jormag’s Breath is acceptable, then so is this.

Personally, as someone who did work hard to get 30/50 in HoM I can’t really say it bothers me at all.

That being said, making the smoke on Fellblade more noticeable would be a welcome change.

I do not have a double standard, as IDS was never reserved for a HoM only skin.

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Mkalafut.1273:

Vayra.3290:

You must be pretty kitten ed about Breath of Jormag, then. That’s just a reskin of the flame sword from HoM and it’s been ingame since release.

I’m not. In fact my warrior dual wields FDS main hand and Breath of Jormag in offhand. I did it on purpose. Icy and Fiery Dragon Swords were both in GW1 and IDS was not promised as a HoM reward.

Fellblade was.

Your missing the point…

HOM promised FDS as an exclusive – GW2 adds IDS for all to get that is LITERALLY an exact replica with different coloring

HOM promised Fellblade as an exclusive – GW2 adds a different weapon type with a resized skin with added effects

How at all are these different, and thus how at all can you be ok with 1 and not the other? If your going with IDS was GW1, Fellblade in GW1 was a 1-H sword. In that case you should be upset that the HOM rewarded you with something not even in the game.

Also if you pay attention, Breath of Jormag and FDS are not the same skin. The FDS has a larger flame affect and is a larger sword overall than the Breath of Jormag.

Neither was this new skin based around the fellblade…. just like the IDS is based around the FDS….. Both non HOM skins are slight varients of HOM weapons…

No, the Breath of Jormag in GW2 is a completely different skin. The dragon hilt looks different, the blade itself is different, and the particle affect is different. It is not just a resized, recolored FDS.

And also, they aren’t both Fellblades huh? See attachment.

They look just as identical to me as the fellblade looks to the new sword.

Once again, double standard.

I never played GW1 but i’ve been with GW2 since launch and i had to look up “fellblade” to see what it was. I had no idea it was supposed to be a special HoM skin since it looks so plain. I’ve seen people with it in game and always assumed it was a level 30 karma blue skin or something.

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They look just as identical to me as the fellblade looks to the new sword.

Once again, double standard.

Once again, it is not a double standard the facts and proof is right there. I can’t help it if you’re vision impaired and can’t see the difference.

Mkalafut

I do not have a double standard, as IDS was never reserved for a HoM only skin.

Also if you pay attention, Breath of Jormag and FDS are not the same skin. The FDS has a larger flame affect and is a larger sword overall than the Breath of Jormag.

you really are missing the point and are using a double standard.

1. FDS was a HoM exclusive, IDS is a reskin. why is that ok but a reskinned, resized fellblade(that isn’t even a gs) with different effects not ok? It’s the exact same as the FDS/IDS situation: reskinned, different effects, and apparently slightly resized according to you.

2. They aren’t making the fellblade accessible to all they’re adding a different fellblade shaped 1h sword. If they made the HoM rewards accessible to all I’d be right there with ya but they aren’t.

3. No one said IDS was a HoM reserved skin in the first place.

Mkalafut.1273:

Celestina.2894:

They look just as identical to me as the fellblade looks to the new sword.

Once again, double standard.

Once again, it is not a double standard the facts and proof is right there. I can’t help it if you’re vision impaired and can’t see the difference.

Now you just sound like you are getting angry, I suggest taking a step back, calming down and really looking at your stance and argument. All I have done is simply apply your own logic to your own argument and thus exposed it’s flaws.

I am not angry at all, but repeating myself to you several times is just getting old. Let me demonstrate (see attachments below). In GW1, FDS and IDS were completely different weapons. Fellblade was also its own weapon. In GW2 there isn’t even an IDS so for all intents and purposes, the Breath of Jormag is the IDS – Which is separate from the FDS skin available from HoM.

However, a Fellblade is a Fellblade is a Fellblade and this is just a colored resized skin of a Fellblade. I have no problem adding GW1 weapons into GW2 (check my previous posts I am an avid supporter) so long as they aren’t tied to HoM.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fiery_Dragon_Sword
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Icy_Dragon_Sword
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fellblade
All completely separate.

Now check my attachments and tell me those are the same. One is a skinned version (exact replica) from GW1 and the other is a craftable exotic themed around Jormag. It has nothing to do with double standards. They are all separate.

To begin with, IDS and FDS are two distinctly different things. In GW sure, it may have been a reskin, but lore and methods of acquisition kept them distinctly different. In GW2 they are even more distinct. The skin isn’t an exact replica, and it isn’t even called an IDS as far as I know.

Saying one is the same as the other is sort of like saying the Green ranger was the same as the Red Ranger. In some neighborhoods, that could cause a rumble.

Now more on topic, having 49/50 of the HoM points, I don’t see an issue. Its a one handed weapon, it has glitter all over it, whatever. Maybe the outline is the same, but the Fellblade is still distinct. Now, if they released a broadsword that looked the same, with maybe different color hand-wrappings and called it the Hewblade, then I might cry foul. It would be like your Fellblade and accomplishment unlocking it are trivialized by an influx of cheap flea-market knock-offs.

I think the sanctity of our HoM items is still intact.

AcidicVision.5498:

To begin with, IDS and FDS are two distinctly different things. In GW sure, it may have been a reskin, but lore and methods of acquisition kept them distinctly different. In GW2 they are even more distinct. The skin isn’t an exact replica, and it isn’t even called an IDS as far as I know.

Saying one is the same as the other is sort of like saying the Green ranger was the same as the Red Ranger. In some neighborhoods, that could cause a rumble.

Now more on topic, having 49/50 of the HoM points, I don’t see an issue. Its a one handed weapon, it has glitter all over it, whatever. Maybe the outline is the same, but the Fellblade is still distinct. Now, if they released a broadsword that looked the same, with maybe different color hand-wrappings and called it the Hewblade, then I might cry foul. It would be like your Fellblade and accomplishment unlocking it are trivialized by an influx of cheap flea-market knock-offs.

I think the sanctity of our HoM items is still intact.

I agree with you, like I said I can see both sides. I just fear this could be the first step in an undesirable direction regarding HoM skins. And I am hoping that at the very least they update the existing Fellblade to emanate that awesome new “smoke” that the pink ones do, because our current particle affect on the existing Fellblade is lacking.

As someone with HoM rewards, I don’t care. At all.
I wouldn’t care even if they were letting everyone get the straight HoM items themselves and not just reskins.
The need to have something others can’t get is terribly juvenile.

Mkalafut.1273:

I am not angry at all, but repeating myself to you several times is just getting old. Let me demonstrate (see attachments below). In GW1, FDS and IDS were completely different weapons. Fellblade was also its own weapon. In GW2 there isn’t even an IDS so for all intents and purposes, the Breath of Jormag is the IDS – Which is separate from the FDS skin available from HoM.

However, a Fellblade is a Fellblade is a Fellblade and this is just a colored resized skin of a Fellblade. I have no problem adding GW1 weapons into GW2 (check my previous posts I am an avid supporter) so long as they aren’t tied to HoM.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fiery_Dragon_Sword
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Icy_Dragon_Sword
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fellblade
All completely separate.

Now check my attachments and tell me those are the same. One is a skinned version (exact replica) from GW1 and the other is a craftable exotic themed around Jormag. It has nothing to do with double standards. They are all separate.

Oh I never claimed they were the same, I did however show your own logic can be applied in the reverse. Yes, the the dragon swords are noticeably different. Yet they share similarities especially at first glance. The exact same can be said about the fellblade and this new sword. That is the fatal flaw in your argument that you are not getting.

And with that I’m out, I can’t help it if you still can’t see how it is a double standard.

Grimwolf.7163:

As someone with HoM rewards, I don’t care. At all.
I wouldn’t care even if they were letting everyone get the straight HoM items themselves and not just reskins.
The need to have something others can’t get is terribly juvenile.

I couldn’t agree more. I have all HoM skins (although, truth be said, the only one I use is the staffx), but I wouldn’t care less if everyone got them. As far as I’m concerned, the more people who have access to skins they like, the better.