Guild Wars 2

I’m guessing the Scarlet arc will end either in February or more likely April/May.

Currently these are the releases left in the year:

November 12: The Nightmares Within
November 26: ? (possibly fractals)
December 10th: Most likely Wintersday
December 24th: ? (possibly fractals)

Looking at this we see we really only have 1 more potential update about Scarlet as one of the ??? must be the fractals update.

The reason why I believe it will either be February or April is because chances are it will end with a dungeon. It takes ~4 months for each living story team to finish their content which means the Twilight Arbor team would be ready in February and the not yet released fractal team will be ready in April/May.

I believe it is more likely to be in April/May for two reasons.

1. Bobby Stein keeps telling us that we don’t know much about her motive and her character development. Anet would probably have trouble presenting this within 2 months when we already have so little information on what Scarlet is trying to do.

2. Unlike TA which can be repeatable since Scarlet is only there in AI holographic form, if the Scarlet conclusion is in a dungeon it is very likely to be temporary. This means that it will probably end up as a future fractal. If February’s update is also a temporary dungeon then Anet can do something similar to cutthroat politics and have another FotM update with two previous dungeons and one new, voted on fractal.

The next arc after Scarlet is very difficult to guess. If I had to take a shot in the dark it would be about what’s going on behind the scenes at Divinities Reach, since Marjory’s back story is connected to that and we are supposedly going to see some of the Queen’s Jubilee content.

I’m hoping its a Newhart type ending – we wake up and find out she was just a bad dream.

wookiee.4631:

GoldenTruth.2853:

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I imagine it’ll end in a dungeon too. But what makes you sure the fractals update won’t also involve her somehow? Or that the fractal might be released alongside an unrelated update (which, I don’t think is probable)?

As for the four month development cycle, can we be sure they aren’t already done with the conclusion content and are just refining or holding off until the right time? How do we know they worked on these in the sequence they are released in? Maybe I’m over thinking it. lol

I basically used a very meta-game way of guessing as to when things end. The fractal update will involve her, however, I would guess only to the extent that the MF and AR fractals are related to her. I doubt she will be involved with Thamanova because we voted between two potential fractals. They can’t plan for her to be behind the Thamanova incident and have it be intertwined with the story when there was a decent chance that we wouldn’t even pick that fractal. They would also have trouble making it so she infiltrated whatever fractal since the fractals are permanent and her survival is not. They are very unlikely to add her along with a FotM update simply because of developer workload.

As to how we know whether they are working their updates in order also has to do with developer workload. They could have a separate non-living story team working on her dungeon, but it seems unlikely. My guesses are based on the assumption that they still only really have two dungeon teams and that they won’t rearrange the teams to much. But that’s why they are educated guesses rather than verified statements.

nope tixxs(think thats his name) wintersday blimp accidently lands on her and kills her. then all the good people of tyria rejoice!!! fa la la la la la

ricky markham.8173:

nope tixxs(think thats his name) wintersday blimp accidently lands on her and kills her. then all the good people of tyria rejoice!!! fa la la la la la

Or Scarlet and Toxx (crazy robot) join forces making yet another alliance.

However it ends I just hope we get more villains who step up to harass and attack Tyria.
That will probably be the only good legacy I think Scarlet will leave: That the Pact, the Orders within it, and the races that support it can still be “touched” after conquering an Elder Dragon.

How she did it is the face palm part for some, but the idea that others will start trying to blaze their own trail in the races’ territories make me smile.

I’m hoping the next series of arcs deal with multiple villains, rotating their importance based on release schedules, so we just don’t have one boogeyman.

I’m assuming that Scarlet will eventually ‘wake up’ either the forest dragon or deep sea dragon and that dragon will be progressed via the living story rather than a new personal story (expansion).

Stooperdale.3560:

I’m assuming that Scarlet will eventually ‘wake up’ either the forest dragon or deep sea dragon and that dragon will be progressed via the living story rather than a new personal story (expansion).

They’re both already awake, biding their time…unless of course Scarlet is one of the Champions of the forest dragon, which explains the toxic plants, her ability to terrify all others into submission, and the fact that the Nightmare Court are following her orders completely from the looks of it.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Stooperdale.3560:

I’m assuming that Scarlet will eventually ‘wake up’ either the forest dragon or deep sea dragon and that dragon will be progressed via the living story rather than a new personal story (expansion).

They’re both already awake, biding their time…unless of course Scarlet is one of the Champions of the forest dragon, which explains the toxic plants, her ability to terrify all others into submission, and the fact that the Nightmare Court are following her orders completely from the looks of it.

This!!!! I’ve been thinking she is the forest dragon champion for a while now which would mean 1 thing…..so many conditions to remove!

Two words: Mecha Zhaitan

SCARLET BRIAR: Can you hear them, Pale Tree? All these people who’ve lived in terror of you and your judgement? All these people whose ancestors devoted themselves, sacrificed themselves, to grow you. Can you hear them singing? Oh, you like to think you’re a beloved franchise cross-over. But you’re not. You’re just a plot parasite, eaten out with jealousy and envy and living off the storylines of others. You feed on them. On the rose-tinted memory of love and loss and birth and death and joy and sorrow. So, come on, then. Take mine. Take my memories. But I hope you’ve got a big appetite, because I have lived a long life* and I have seen a few things.

I walked away from the last great Mists War. I marked the pruning of the Firstborns. I saw the birth of your Sylvari and I watched as forests shriveled up, moment by moment, until nothing remained. No flora. No fauna. Just me. I walked in mazes where the laws of physics were devised by the mind of a Mad King. I’ve watched servers freeze and video cards burn. I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe. I have lost things you will never understand. And I know things. Story arcs that must never be told. Plot lines that must never be explained. Knowledge that will make forum trolls blaze! So come on, then! Take it! Take it all, baby! Have it! You have it all!

Retroactive Continuity*

wookiee.4631:

Elbegast.6970:

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Sorry, I don’t get it what you’re referencing here.

OtakuDFifty.2965:

Two words: Mecha Zhaitan

AWESOME!

Also, I’m starting to think Scarlet won’t be wrapping up before next year. My idea that the arc would be over real soon kind of hinged on the assumption that the Nightmares releases would actually be significant in the story, which they really aren’t. So, I imagine it’ll be February or March before we finally say good-bye to her and hello to whatever is next. Or maybe they’ll cram the finale into January. Who knows.

Haven’t you noticed? We may never learn why Teq got stronger… Dragons aren’t an issue in Tyria the world just wants to catch that Scarlet…

Sorry to anyone who wants to kill Scarlet (everyone?) but that privilege is reserved for another.

See I remember Nightfall and when arenanet knew how to tell a compelling story and I choose to believe that they are going somewhere with this. Here is my theory about where is might go.

If we are to believe that Scarlet and her deeds will truly tie into the personal story and indeed bring about the next vital point in the story of Tyria then surely an elder dragon must at some point get involved.

I think that all of this chaos Scarlet is causing will be having some pretty big impacts on the magical energy (perhaps corrupting it) that the dragons awoke to feed on. They’ll tire of allowing her to live and simply swoop down to stop her. We won’t be allowed to do it, we probably won’t even be given an explanation as to her motives or goal, she’ll simply be eaten and that’s that.

Really the only way I can see myself accepting Scarlet as having had any lasting impact in the story at this point is if she is used as a Segway into the next Elder Dragons appearance.

My two cents.

@ Dark Magi I’m going to retract my original theory and create a new one based around Scarlet being the reason why Teq got stronger too.

I can’t be the only one who thought that the Tower of Nightmares was way too obvious even when stealthed. We were definitely meant to find it. And at the top Scarlet says that we couldn’t have played our roles better if we’d tried. I think it was a distraction.

The assault on dragon bash and the queen’s jubilee again were going to get noticed because it was an interruption of a revel. Why attack something so heavily guarded and expect to win?

We also have to remember that Scarlet is supposed to be a genius and also know the outcome already based on what she saw in the eternal alchemy. In other words she already knows that everything she does is going to result in us stopping her.

So why is she doing it all? To keep us distracted. I believe she’s doing something big. So big that it would be easily detected or outright seen if we had the chance to stop and look. So where can this be? Well if she doesn’t want us to see it then it must be in the one place the LS hasn’t taken us. Orr.

If we are to believe that all the LS is connected and also ties into our personal story at some point then it’s true that Scarlet must have made Tequatl stronger and also that in some way the Elder Dragons will factor into it at some point.

So she’s doing something big that can be easily seen requiring all these pointless distractions, it’s in Orr, and Tequatl is being strengthened by it. She’s resurrecting Zhaitan as a steam dragon or Mecha Zhaitan.

As implausible as it is, it does tie everything so far together.

@ Elbegast I did enjoy the Rings of Akhaten episode of Doctor Who.

As for the topic of this topic, I do think it’s pretty meta that Anet would develop a character who has lead the characters to chasing carrots, so they could have the players chasing carrots.

I think that the reason Scarlet has dues-ex-machina so many times is that she has never actually been there. It has been an illusion the entire time and has only pretended to have super teleportation powers to hide this fact. Hopefully after this last hallucination filled adventure the characters will be better at handling illusions and can find where the real Scarlet is hiding.

I want it to end in a QTE where we get to force Scarlets face against a grinder then toss her corpse out of a window.

She’ll probably deliver some long monologue about how great she is followed by a gimmicky fight followed by a chest filled with blues and greens.

I’ll settle for her just dying and staying dead.