Guild Wars 2

We all been waiting 2 months, TWO MONTHS for a patch that was promised good stuff and variety in terms of fixes, new content all around not just PVE but mostly WvW, and after so much hype and specially after that twitch live were we saw so much stuff comming and so on this is what we got: a new world boss to give us more achivement ponts, or what i like to call To Do List, new super-dupper rare weapons and armor that only 1 in a million will drop, GEM STORE ITEEEEEEEEMMMSSS cause ofcourse what you really need is players wasting €/$ on every item you guys remember to put in there, and the awsome, splendid, epic BLACK LION CHEST changes cause THAT is what we need, things like essences of luck ( that drops no were, oh wait..), and instant trait resets that was so famous in the gemstore. I, for once, was 1 of the many waiting for stuff like WvW points reset and account bound them, bug fixes, build changes, sigils, runes, etc and what did the WvW community got? a name changed Boon… THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH for these awsome updates that took you 2 months to complete we are very happy to see that they came to light. It was a good run in GW2, i guess i will start looking for other avenues beside this one, have fun.

Thanks for playing, take care

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last FOUR patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

Seriously… people raging about their own ignorance… They can’t seem to read or do any research about the future updates…

I simply expected for something out of the ordinary beside Gem store stuff, 1 patch that took 2 months and brought more of the same of those patches that last 2 weeks, and nothing for WvW? please, enough is enough.

Noctis.2657:

I simply expected for something out of the ordinary beside Gem store stuff, 1 patch that took 2 months and brought more of the same of those patches that last 2 weeks, and nothing for WvW? please, enough is enough.

I think just capitalizing the word isn’t enough. Let me put it up again.

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last >>FOUR<< patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

Noctis.2657:

I simply expected for something out of the ordinary beside Gem store stuff, 1 patch that took 2 months and brought more of the same of those patches that last 2 weeks, and nothing for WvW? please, enough is enough.

we’ve been waiting this long for the coming FOUR patches, this is the FIRST of those FOUR. So yeah, this is the build up, the prelude, the biggest stuff probably won’t happen until the fourth patch.

Noctis.2657:

We all been waiting 2 months, TWO MONTHS for a patch that was promised good stuff and variety in terms of fixes, new content all around not just PVE but mostly WvW, and after so much hype and specially after that twitch live were we saw so much stuff comming and so on this is what we got: a new world boss to give us more achivement ponts, or what i like to call To Do List, new super-dupper rare weapons and armor that only 1 in a million will drop, GEM STORE ITEEEEEEEEMMMSSS cause ofcourse what you really need is players wasting €/$ on every item you guys remember to put in there, and the awsome, splendid, epic BLACK LION CHEST changes cause THAT is what we need, things like essences of luck ( that drops no were, oh wait..), and instant trait resets that was so famous in the gemstore. I, for once, was 1 of the many waiting for stuff like WvW points reset and account bound them, bug fixes, build changes, sigils, runes, etc and what did the WvW community got? a name changed Boon… THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH for these awsome updates that took you 2 months to complete we are very happy to see that they came to light. It was a good run in GW2, i guess i will start looking for other avenues beside this one, have fun.

The focus on gemstore items and PvE zerg events makes my head spin. Are there people who actually get enjoyment out of these?

It’s all just so… mindless and stale.

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last FOUR patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

But weren’t all patches before also a build-up towards the whole “now we know why scarlet did this and that” ?

kokiman.2364:

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last FOUR patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

But weren’t all patches before also a build-up towards the whole “now we know why scarlet did this and that” ?

True, but those had their own build up as well. Remember the Molten Alliance? It had 4 patches including the conclusion iirc, but it’s also a build up for the bigger story.

People expected the well established balance fixes that were discussed back before december 10th as “pending further review”, discussed again in the life stream, and now set for release in ???, to be rolled out, at least some of them.

The rune changes, the sigil changes, the other things that would be super interesting for those of that that really don’t care two whips about PVE.

If there are balance issues after the patch, make the small changes and roll it out. If it is too much, back it off a bit in the next patch.

The GW2 patching used to be like this…. little balance changes each patch…. but here we are with the standard MMO model and filler content between patches.

Hell if they are released JUST A FEW rune and sigil updates, I would have been excited, or the 2 sigils per 2h weapon, or the new cooldown interaction with sigils.

But no…. We got literally nothing on that front, but they took the time to explain in great detail all the exciting stuff that will sometime be happening. Using language like “in the next feature patch” is intentionally misleading, and they should have stated at the start of the stream, NOTHING they were discussing had any weight or would happen anytime soon, so feel free to not bother watching.

I am a very reasonable person, but just not bothering to go for low hanging fruit, or attempting to spice up WvW so it is less stale and we get….. nothing at all. Even SPVP which would have loved a few of those rune or sigil changes got nothing as well.

Living story was a fine concept, but it is being used as an excuse not to bother patching the rest of the game. Incremental changes were suppose to be the hallmark of this game, and careful and frequent balance adjustments.

Archomeda.6472:

Noctis.2657:

I simply expected for something out of the ordinary beside Gem store stuff, 1 patch that took 2 months and brought more of the same of those patches that last 2 weeks, and nothing for WvW? please, enough is enough.

I think just capitalizing the word isn’t enough. Let me put it up again.

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last >>FOUR<< patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

When i said 2 months i was refering to DECEMBER and JANUARY… the xmas patch not the 2 months for “scarlet to dissapear” time.

This patch is pretty much exactly what i was expecting and was Anet talk about. If Anet don’t give news about what will come in the future, people are upset. If Anet talk about what will come in the future, then a bunch of people cry when these changes are not in the game in the next month.

Rennoko.5731:

People expected the well established balance fixes that were discussed back before december 10th as “pending further review”, discussed again in the life stream, and now set for release in ???, to be rolled out, at least some of them.

The rune changes, the sigil changes, the other things that would be super interesting for those of that that really don’t care two whips about PVE.

If there are balance issues after the patch, make the small changes and roll it out. If it is too much, back it off a bit in the next patch.

The GW2 patching used to be like this…. little balance changes each patch…. but here we are with the standard MMO model and filler content between patches.

Hell if they are released JUST A FEW rune and sigil updates, I would have been excited, or the 2 sigils per 2h weapon, or the new cooldown interaction with sigils.

But no…. We got literally nothing on that front, but they took the time to explain in great detail all the exciting stuff that will sometime be happening. Using language like “in the next feature patch” is intentionally misleading, and they should have stated at the start of the stream, NOTHING they were discussing had any weight or would happen anytime soon, so feel free to not bother watching.

I am a very reasonable person, but just not bothering to go for low hanging fruit, or attempting to spice up WvW so it is less stale and we get….. nothing at all. Even SPVP which would have loved a few of those rune or sigil changes got nothing as well.

Living story was a fine concept, but it is being used as an excuse not to bother patching the rest of the game. Incremental changes were suppose to be the hallmark of this game, and careful and frequent balance adjustments.

I agree.

If Living Story were anything more than “zerg down this boss/event” and a laundry list of uninspired and tedious achievements to finish the meta, maybe I’d be interested. Unfortunately, that seems not to be the case. ANet has the tools to make GW2 a great game, but it’s as if they’re too hung up on developing items for the gemstore and creating more world events when we already have so many that they can’t introduce real content.

Rennoko.5731:

Using language like “in the next feature patch” is intentionally misleading, and they should have stated at the start of the stream, NOTHING they were discussing had any weight or would happen anytime soon, so feel free to not bother watching.

They said exactly that. It’s your fault for taking it in a completely different direction.

More zerg content so…disappointment.

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last FOUR patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

I think part of the complaint is that all the living story updates since the Molten Alliance stuff started have been “build-up.” It’s not unreasonable for people to expect each of these 4 final patches to be something special.

Winter.3649:

Seriously… people raging about their own ignorance… They can’t seem to read or do any research about the future updates…

This.. times 10.

Seriously people.. read.

The next 4 updates will be Living Story ONLY!
After that will be a HUGE FEATURES Patch that will most likely include the new Ferocity stat, sigils, runes, and possibly the Edge of the Mists map.

Just.. the next 4 updates are LIVING STORY ONLY. Please let that sink in.

Noctis.2657:

Archomeda.6472:

Noctis.2657:

I simply expected for something out of the ordinary beside Gem store stuff, 1 patch that took 2 months and brought more of the same of those patches that last 2 weeks, and nothing for WvW? please, enough is enough.

I think just capitalizing the word isn’t enough. Let me put it up again.

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last >>FOUR<< patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

When i said 2 months i was refering to DECEMBER and JANUARY… the xmas patch not the 2 months for “scarlet to dissapear” time.

Well… that’s what I meant. I was referring to your 2 months if you didn’t know. But sorry if I wasn’t clear enough, so let me correct myself to proper English then: “It has been 2 months for the last four patches”.

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

I expected dissapointment….. does that count?

I was hoping to see some new armor but instead they released what seems to look like half an armor (like they usually do >_>) and it looks like a ascended reskin (ugh reskin again) with some slight changes. I was like “So now Anet can’t even fully reskin something!?!?”. That is was going to be dissapointed was expected but not that the dissapointment would be that.
I’m really starting to worry how legendary armor is going to look like and how late it’s going to arrive in this game.

Nobody dare call this game a cosmectic game! A game that has cosmetic stuff in it would be a better description. Seriously thank god I enjoy playing this game (for now) or else I would have stopped playing this a long time ago cuz I got this game for cosmetic reasons and those “cosmetic reasons” gets treated like crap in this game.

I for one love that they discussed trait, sigil, and rune changes way ahead of time and then wait for player feed back. It gives us time to discuss the changes and help guide the devs in their decision making process. People that wanted the trait/rune changes in this patch are too ignorant for words.

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

Khalic.3561:

Archomeda.6472:

Don’t forget it’s 2 months for the last FOUR patches. Did you really think they would go all-in in the first patch? I expect this patch is more like a build-up towards the next 3.

I think part of the complaint is that all the living story updates since the Molten Alliance stuff started have been “build-up.” It’s not unreasonable for people to expect each of these 4 final patches to be something special.

True, I can see your point. But that’s something ArenaNet is addressing in the next season. And they also have been very clear about 4 patches, instead of only 1.
Anyway, to answer the title: although I too had hoped more, this was what I had expected really.

Just…wait…they concluded their Edge of the Mists test. They actually need time to act on player’s feedback.

That should drum up a lot of WvW attention when it’s ready.

Savoy.6824:

I for one love that they discussed trait, sigil, and rune changes way ahead of time and then wait for player feed back. It gives us time to discuss the changes and help guide the devs in their decision making process. People that wanted the trait/rune changes in this patch are too ignorant for words.

Give me a break… buffing useless runes no one uses would SURELY DESTROY THE GAME…. PHONE THE PRESS….. CALL IN THE MILITARY.

Given that their “balance” discussion was mostly one or two changes and nerfs to certain classes, there is little to no discussion that can be had. And seeing as how they gave literally no useful information on the runes/sigils other than to say they normalized them… I am sure we can all have long meaningful discussion on the topic.

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

Well they took 6 weeks to give you gem store stuff and a boss for pve zerg, if you are happy with it so be it.

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

That’s what you get when players are spoiled with 2-weeks content that are most of the time filled with more content than what it is now.

Noctis.2657:

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

Well they took 6 weeks to give you gem store stuff and a boss for pve zerg, if you are happy with it so be it.

Patience is a virtue, as they always say. Again, this is only the first of four patches.

After read the notes i’ll not update for now. Play other things and wait more months, maybe things will be better after this boring LS, maybe not.

Irikami.6270:

After read the notes i’ll not update for now. Play other things and wait more months, maybe things will be better after this boring LS, maybe not.

Define “better.”

Arenanet can’t read your mind. If you would voice out what type of content appeals to you, perhaps someone will take notice and make changes.

Archomeda.6472:

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

That’s what you get when players are spoiled with 2-weeks content that are most of the time filled with more content than what it is now.

Lol a story that most ppl are tired of, were Scarlet is nothing more than a annoying character now after a year of patchs, 2 week content were you get 300 or 400 achivement points to do, a mob to kill and gem store items. I am not saying that all patches that came were bad cause half of them were nice but don´t tell me it was hard work to pack up those stuff cause that was not my friend.

Rennoko.5731:

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The GW2 patching used to be like this…. little balance changes each patch…. but here we are with the standard MMO model and filler content between patches.

The december 10th was a huge balance patch, and in this patch you have 5 skills Balance/Fix. Should they fix 10+ skill each patch to be acknowledge? Maybe 15+?

In November 26th path, they had 59 balance/fix for the professions.

True in November 12th they had none. But in October 29th they had 18 and in October 15h i stopped counting after the 100th. Seem to me that they fix a bit each patch or almost each patch so your point is just false.

Rennoko.5731:

Using language like “in the next feature patch” is intentionally misleading, and they should have stated at the start of the stream, NOTHING they were discussing had any weight or would happen anytime soon, so feel free to not bother watching.

‘’in the next feature patch’’ is highly precise. You just don’t read news from Anet that’s all. In December they clearly stated that starting on January 21st there will be 4 patch to finish the Living Story. The next patch would be a big feature patch. So i don’t see how ‘’in the next feature patch’’ is misleading. Its the next update after the 4 first of the year. Meaning that this can’t be sooner that March 18h. They also said that after the 4 first patch of the years they will take a brief patch break before the big feature patch. Meaning that this big feature patch won’t be on March 18th but a bit later.

I haven’t had a chance to play it yet but from past experience I have set the bar fairly low and I find that really helps. It’s also best to not hop on the hype train, as it speeds through here on a somewhat consistent schedule you’ll only tire yourself out if you try to catch each one that passes by.

Thaddeus.4891:

Rennoko.5731:

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The GW2 patching used to be like this…. little balance changes each patch…. but here we are with the standard MMO model and filler content between patches.

The december 10th was a huge balance patch, and in this patch you have 5 skills Balance/Fix. Should they fix 10+ skill each patch to be acknowledge? Maybe 15+?

In November 26th path, they had 59 balance/fix for the professions.

True in November 12th they had none. But in October 29th they had 18 and in October 15h i stopped counting after the 100th. Seem to me that they fix a bit each patch or almost each patch so your point is just false.

You do realize this was my point right? That they have been balancing every patch and doing their due to keep up on that front, and we get to go from December 10th to sometime in March for the next balance update…. That would be a marked departure from Q4 of last year. Seeing as how Q1 this year will get no balancing it seems.

Noctis.2657:

Archomeda.6472:

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

That’s what you get when players are spoiled with 2-weeks content that are most of the time filled with more content than what it is now.

Lol a story that most ppl are tired of, were Scarlet is nothing more than a annoying character now after a year of patchs, 2 week content were you get 300 or 400 achivement points to do, a mob to kill and gem store items. I am not saying that all patches that came were bad cause half of them were nice but don´t tell me it was hard work to pack up those stuff cause that was not my friend.

You are now referring to things I haven’t said. What I meant is (@Moshari) that people tend to expect an equal amount of content or even more in each patch. And that people get disappointed (or will rage) without looking beyond the end of their own nose, when there’s a patch that has less content than traditionally.

Rennoko.5731:

Thaddeus.4891:

Rennoko.5731:

P
The GW2 patching used to be like this…. little balance changes each patch…. but here we are with the standard MMO model and filler content between patches.

The december 10th was a huge balance patch, and in this patch you have 5 skills Balance/Fix. Should they fix 10+ skill each patch to be acknowledge? Maybe 15+?

In November 26th path, they had 59 balance/fix for the professions.

True in November 12th they had none. But in October 29th they had 18 and in October 15h i stopped counting after the 100th. Seem to me that they fix a bit each patch or almost each patch so your point is just false.

You do realize this was my point right? That they have been balancing every patch and doing their due to keep up on that front, and we get to go from December 10th to sometime in March for the next balance update…. That would be a marked departure from Q4 of last year. Seeing as how Q1 this year will get no balancing it seems.

They are doing this because the player base wanted this. There were people who didn’t like the LS mixed with features and large balance updates. It became “confusing” to them on what they should be doing……

yea this is more disappointment really instead of making the core gameplay better i would appreciate less content like this really

It is an expected disappointment.

Living Story only or not, this is very little Living Story even.

Some people probably hyped themselves up too much, but let’s face it. Very very few likes Scarlet Briar. Most people want this arc to just end quicker and move on. It was 1 month of not much to do(this Wintersday patch had less to do than last Wintersday). People wanted more, they got this.

Expect a wave of disappointment.

Very very disappointed expected.. nothing more to say

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

Yea sorry ,i expected more than 2 worldbosses (only 1 permanent).
Im gonna kill them 2-3 times and then ?
That are 2 days of ’’fun’’,i cant call this new Content.

It’s total dogkitten. Once again I’m locked out of playing on my server due to another awful zerg event. They learned absolutely nothing from Tequatl and short of a huge change in vision I don’t see this game ever improving.

Halycon.5371:

we’ve been waiting this long for the coming FOUR patches, this is the FIRST of those FOUR. So yeah, this is the build up, the prelude, the biggest stuff probably won’t happen until the fourth patch.

The so called “build up” we get since release now. It seems these devs only can build up anyway. Seen the interviews with Colin lately? The same. He is telling exactly what he has been months ago. No matter how much time is passing, we always get the same “build up” be it words or patches.

Flytrap.8075:

If Living Story were anything more than “zerg down this boss/event” and a laundry list of uninspired and tedious achievements to finish the meta, maybe I’d be interested. Unfortunately, that seems not to be the case. ANet has the tools to make GW2 a great game, but it’s as if they’re too hung up on developing items for the gemstore and creating more world events when we already have so many that they can’t introduce real content.

I agree. It is sad, but true.

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

The problem is Anet just adds Living Story and shopitems in every patch lately. No new content for PvP, no new Content for WvW, no good classbalancing (and so on), so the players feel fooled and I have to say, I feel that way at the moment too. The promised changes won’t help much, because they will NOT solve one single problem!

All in all I can say, Anet literally avoid the voices of the community, because of their reasons and people are upset about that. It shouldn’t be so surprising.

I’ll decide whether disappointed or not, after the three other parts. So one more useless thread, I guess.

@Rennoko all I can say is before the dec 10th balance changes they did a pretty good job of discussing them with the players and they actually made a few adjustments based on player feedback. Prior to that I personally had a major issue with them just rolling out balance changes all willy nilly. Its annoying when you spend time and money gearing up a character only to have them change it at the spur of the moment. As it stands now I have 2 months to prepare for the upcoming changes to crit damage and traits. I can level my engi in that time and be ready to embrace the already OP condition meta. I hope everyone can agree that this is a much better system and that they understand that they should have be extreamly angry if there were balance changes in this patch because we would have had no chance to discuss them.

Archomeda.6472:

Noctis.2657:

Moshari.8570:

Mordacreux.6491:

Dissapointment..nothing more to say

Wow, it’s been out for what? 30 minutes…I’d hate to be an ANET dev…players are harsh! Dissapointed before the events even begin!

Well they took 6 weeks to give you gem store stuff and a boss for pve zerg, if you are happy with it so be it.

Patience is a virtue, as they always say. Again, this is only the first of four patches.

And the same as the last 4. Boss zerg farming.

Lydell.8713:

I’ll decide whether disappointed or not, after the three other parts. So one more useless thread, I guess.

This. Now I’m off to play some Guild Wars 2.