Guild Wars 2

Not entirely sure if this is the right spot for this kinda post, but it just struck me as I was playing SoT (Which I really enjoyed btw, it was great! <3)

But, Mender Serimon was there to greet Ceara/Scarlet when she awakened. Given she’s a 2ndborn, it generally implies Serimon is older than her. I know we don’t see him at the 1stborn meeting, but there was also the other two unrevealed 1stborns missing. So, it’s a possibility I guess? ;o

I talked about it with my guild, but just wanted to see what other people thought about it, or if there was more that I’d missed.

~Jedi handwave~

This is not the plot hole you’re looking for…

There’s always the possibility that Mender Serimon is also a secondborn, but awoke earlier than ceara.

dsslive.8473:

There’s always the possibility that Mender Serimon is also a secondborn, but awoke earlier than Ceara.

And yet not only is he not shown, he probably wouldn’t have his clothes yet (the other secondborn didn’t either, after all) like he did in the short story, and since the Wardens haven’t been established yet, it’s a fair guess that the Menders probably weren’t either.

And, if they were in fact around, whoever wrote the story either forgot to address that, was too rushed, or couldn’t be bothered. So much wasted potential in this story.

Nilkemia.8507:

dsslive.8473:

There’s always the possibility that Mender Serimon is also a secondborn, but awoke earlier than Ceara.

And yet not only is he not shown, he probably wouldn’t have his clothes yet (the other secondborn didn’t either, after all) like he did in the short story, and since the Wardens haven’t been established yet, it’s a fair guess that the Menders probably weren’t either.

And, if they were in fact around, whoever wrote the story either forgot to address that, was too rushed, or couldn’t be bothered. So much wasted potential in this story.

There were several firstborn not shown, yet we know they exist.

I’m not saying this isn’t a possible oversight/mistake on Anet’s part, i’m jsut pointing out that because you don’t see it in a brief memory of that time, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Also no one said menders had to wear clothes
And the origins of the wardens don’t necessarily coincide with that of the menders. Nor does it have to be a postion held by many yet.

The story showed both “Newborns” and “Newly Awakened”. I presume that the Newborns are just that, while the Newly Awakened refers to Secondborn that may have been awake for days or even weeks already. Since Cadeyrn was there when Malomedies was rescued from the Asura (which occurs prior to the events of the chapter), I’m assuming that the Secondborn awoke over the course of a month or two.

I’ve already voiced my thoughts on it in another thread, so I’ll just put the link here and leave it at that: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/s2/Spoiler-Scarlet-Briar-lore-break/first#post4602423

Nilkemia.8507:

dsslive.8473:

There’s always the possibility that Mender Serimon is also a secondborn, but awoke earlier than Ceara.

And yet not only is he not shown, he probably wouldn’t have his clothes yet (the other secondborn didn’t either, after all) like he did in the short story, and since the Wardens haven’t been established yet, it’s a fair guess that the Menders probably weren’t either.

And, if they were in fact around, whoever wrote the story either forgot to address that, was too rushed, or couldn’t be bothered. So much wasted potential in this story.

The image I think you are referring to has Scarlet physically facing away from the Pale Tree. In the image she is Scarlet, no Ceara – she has her new hair and her modern armour. The male sylvari behind her is not the same as Mender Serimon as he is exists in game (although sylvari are now known to change physically so who knows). Regardless, that screen shot is not Ceara when she first encounter Mender Serimon. I suspect it’s either the final time she leave the Grove or it’s a symbolic image showing her literally turning her back on the Pale Tree and the other sylvari.

dsslive.8473:

Nilkemia.8507:

dsslive.8473:

There’s always the possibility that Mender Serimon is also a secondborn, but awoke earlier than Ceara.

And yet not only is he not shown, he probably wouldn’t have his clothes yet (the other secondborn didn’t either, after all) like he did in the short story, and since the Wardens haven’t been established yet, it’s a fair guess that the Menders probably weren’t either.

And, if they were in fact around, whoever wrote the story either forgot to address that, was too rushed, or couldn’t be bothered. So much wasted potential in this story.

There were several firstborn not shown, yet we know they exist.

I’m not saying this isn’t a possible oversight/mistake on Anet’s part, i’m jsut pointing out that because you don’t see it in a brief memory of that time, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Also no one said menders had to wear clothes
And the origins of the wardens don’t necessarily coincide with that of the menders. Nor does it have to be a postion held by many yet.

I believe only three Firstborn are not shown. Riannoc, who is dead at the time of the instance (something that was incorrect in the instance) and two unknown Firstborn.

The main issue would be the plausibility of Serimon waking after Cadeyrn but before Ceara, and both the menders being formed and Serimon becoming one of them in the new condensed time frame. The instance also implies that Ceara has been awake for a while.

The most obvious answer would be that Serimon is not a Firstborn. We don’t know who the final two Firstborn are but if it was Serimon, it probably would have been mentioned by now.