Guild Wars 2

Well its been here and most the people have done it and know how it was.

IF ANYONE HASN’T DONE THE NEW STUFF YET DON’T READ THIS THREAD AS THERE ARE SPOILERS.

Okay so the last time we got new content was march 18. That’s three months and a week or two ago. (I don’t count bazaar/gauntlet because that was repetitive content from last year)

In that time we have had nothing. The feature patch was fixes to broken things and the release of wardrobe which should have been released with the game.

I haven’t played since then but i have been checking back everyday if there was anything to do. I’ve been playing since the game came out so those that have been playing since then can have an understanding of how I feel.

So it’s been 3 months and a week or two and the Maguuma patch comes. This patch was the deal breaker or maker for some because lets face it a lot of people are tired of little to no content patches. Well this patch comes along and we get the start of season 2. Now I did this patch and I kitten ed it so I didn’t rush it but it lasted an hour and some minutes.

In the Maguuma patch we got:
-1/5th of a map
-some achievements within the map
-about an hours worth of story
-some new materials, more gem armor, rng skins from chests, and a new stat combo.

So in that 3 months and a weeks time we got that much content. 1/5th of a map was a huge let down. The achieves were expected with every update so thats good for those who care for them. The play time of this new season was not much to bring anyone back that had gotten tired of the game. New material is cool i guess. As for gem skins people are tired of those. RNG skins well we cant complain about that since RNG is pretty much a big factor of GW2 and it kills the fun of obtaining things. New stat combo is cool but It has no value.

I say the new stat combo has no value because the pve content in this game just requires you to do dmg. So if you aren’t doing dmg you’re doing it wrong. If they do a major haul to pve more builds will see the light of day. As of now All you need is dmg to do pve(except for world bosses because you can just crutch on soldiers for that).

Isn’t everyone tired of just doing damage? It sounds like a silly question but ever since the game came out all you need to do is damage and you have your own heal to keep you going. I think more builds will fit pve once they get rid of stacking by making their AI less stupid. There is no fun factor to most pve encounters because you end up stacking and swinging.

But back to the topic at hand since this isn’t a fix pve thread. After 3 months we got the same amount of content we used to get that a lot of people dislike. Most of my friends have quit the game because there is literally nothing to do unless you started playing a couple months ago.

I have 5k play time hours on this game and i have taken many breaks from it before because WE NEVER EVER GET A MAJOR CONTENT UPDATE. Ever since Halloween and xmas of 2012 we have had no high playtime required content.

Every patch since then has been meh. I see these ‘’i quit’’ threads and wonder if the devs are even looking and seeing how bad it is. More than 80% of my friend list is grayed out because they are bored and sick of this.

Unless you guys have some major content coming in this month or next. Im not sure what value there will be to this games playtime. Now im not saying there aren’t people who enjoy doing the same thing since release to this day and i don’t want to bash them for being simple minded but there is literally nothing to do if you have played for a while. I’ve taken my fair share of breaks from the game so when i come back i can play new content but when there is nothing coming out or anything major that came out you begin to question how much effort you are willing to put it to wait for something to come out.

As many have pointed out this game has lots of potential. I’ve seen it many times that this game could break all the others if the content is there. Im not calling the devs lazy but I think everyone just wants to play your game anet. People want content and they want to play. But if you guys keep giving us things like 1/5th a map after 3 months of nothing there wont be much to do in this game.

Unless there is major stuff coming out that will provide content to people that are fed up waiting week after week to get nothing I don’t know how much of a player base there will be. You can only milk a cow for so long before it gets old and dies.

I would love to see some major content coming out to this game and as like others i was waiting on a full map for season 2s opener. We players can only wait for major content to come out for so long.

TLDR: Drop that bomb of content everyone has been waiting on anet so people have something to come back to. Because people want to play gw2 but there is nothing to do at the moment.

Mosharn.8357:

TLDR: Drop that bomb of content everyone has been waiting on anet so people have something to come back to. Because people want to play gw2 but there is nothing to do at the moment.

It’s possible the bomb of content that we’re waiting for is actually a cluster bomb, something that’s designed to cover more ground by breaking into smaller pieces. Whether the payload adds up to the impact of a single, larger bomb is to be seen.

darkace.8925:

Mosharn.8357:

TLDR: Drop that bomb of content everyone has been waiting on anet so people have something to come back to. Because people want to play gw2 but there is nothing to do at the moment.

It’s possible the bomb of content that we’re waiting for is actually a cluster bomb, something that’s designed to cover more ground by breaking into smaller pieces. Whether the payload adds up to the impact of a single, larger bomb is to be seen.

Personally I’m hoping that they release at least the rest of Dry Top in the next patch.

Dude, we must be brothers or something because I was thinking the same thing. I am SO disapointed that the fact that, like you said, after 3 months, I get 40 minutes of story, and 3 new Exotic skins. When will Anet realize that all that map that is around our current landmass, CAN IN FACT BE USED. I really enjoy playing this game a ton, and the only thing keeping me is the fact that its F2P. if it was P2P then I wouldve been out of this boat a year ago, because stuff hasnt changed one bit since I started playing.

You are going to be torn into by the “casual” players on these forums, sadly it will all be the same things said to you. Someone will tell you that you should take a break from the game, next person will say that they have plenty of things left to do in this release and that you should take you time, and finally someone will call you something along the lines of a no-lifer. I’ve found it’s not even worth trying to get my ideas/complaints onto the forums anymore because there are only a few of us that wish the game had stayed true to what it originally was supposed to be left.

I usually hate the terms “casual and hardcore”, but it’s been showing more and more how much of a divide GW2 has between those 2 factions. Us “hardcore(lol)” players all just want new stuff that has some resemblance of replay value for this game that has had NO real changes in almost 2 years. While the “casuals” only want enough “new” content that allows them to play for only a few hours a week, but have the exact same rewards/skins/gold as those of us that can play a couple hours a day. It’s been pretty clear that GW2 isn’t the game for me and many of the players I came to GW2 with from GW1. I’ve been hoping for a new game to come out that would give me the experience I want, but so far there hasn’t been. It’s really sad how 9 years of playing the 2 games from Anet comes to not because they have become blinded by how much money they can make from microtransactions from the “casual” playerbase.

If everyone takes a break from the game because there is no good amount of content. Who will play this game?

China and the overly loyal.

Mosharn.8357:

If everyone takes a break from the game because there is no good amount of content. Who will play this game?

They probably should have thought about that a year ago. Honestly, seeing this game die was a surprise considering how well it did on launch. The “too big to die” thing hardly never applies but this game had all the momentum to make that philosophy happen. That other MMO that you get in trouble for mentioning isn’t very great but it manages to have content that keeps the playerbase interested, even if it is boring. At least they have something meaningful and challenging, this update has to really blow me away with new armor sets, a big new map full of challenge, a decent story, and a replayable “raid” style dungeon or I am out. I love this game and I want the best for it so all I can do is hope.

If you have 5k hours in this game, over the last two years, of course there’s not going to be anything to do. No developer in the world could ever make enough content for you.

Ever play WoW? Everyone takes a break for months until the new content comes out. Happens all the time.

I’d like to know where this mythical game is that has more content and keeps coming out with more content that can keep someone with 5000 hours happy.

My guess is only a sandbox MMO can do that, where content is continually created by playing it. Themepark MMOs will never support 5000 hours in two years.

Vayne.8563:

If you have 5k hours in this game, over the last two years, of course there’s not going to be anything to do. No developer in the world could ever make enough content for you.

Ever play WoW? Everyone takes a break for months until the new content comes out. Happens all the time.

I’d like to know where this mythical game is that has more content and keeps coming out with more content that can keep someone with 5000 hours happy.

My guess is only a sandbox MMO can do that, where content is continually created by playing it. Themepark MMOs will never support 5000 hours in two years.

WoW has lots of content and its fun in its way and it has a lot going for it thats why its such a big deal. GW2 has just been a fake hype. Anet doesn’t have forever to make things right.

Who knows maybe we will get major content in this month or the next. Or maybe nothing will happen and this game will still be the same thing since release which will cause the player base to leave.

Also The ‘’ I quit’’ threads that pop up from time to time happen because those people want to let anet know what was wrong. Sure some people just make those threads to announce their departure but over all you can see the damage that no major content has done to the player base. I remember seeing 4-5 ‘’i quit’’ threads withing one week before. Think of the people that quit without any heads up or reasons to what is making them leave.

If any Anet dev reads this thread. I just want you guys to see that people want to play your game and that its has A LOT of potential. The combat system is good( it could be great if there is no combat slow as that kind of favors some classes that can break combat while leaving a condi on target which leaves them stuck in combat and slowed). If you guys re do builds without listening to ‘’this is op nerf/buff it’’ threads and rather look at threads that give explanations and examples of why something needs a change will bring positive results. As for content there are a lot of things you guys can do. Gem store skins are a lazy band-aid on a cut off leg.

This game has potential to be something really big. Its fun when there is something to do so give us something to do besides farming day in and day out for rng. Give us personal progression. Give us hard to do things where we can show off our loot instead of going on tp and buying things that rng rewards random people. Also Gold->gem is pretty crazy. You guys should put a cap on that as it is a big casual/new player destroyer.

At the end of the day it’s your game Anet. Use this games potential to make massive content that everyone can enjoy. You have all the tools. Its just the matter of time and effort. There are people waiting and people will come back if there is content. Everyone is tired of the typical grind mmos that take months after months to get to the ’’fun’’ content. This game starts out fun then dies.

Mosharn.8357:

Vayne.8563:

If you have 5k hours in this game, over the last two years, of course there’s not going to be anything to do. No developer in the world could ever make enough content for you.

Ever play WoW? Everyone takes a break for months until the new content comes out. Happens all the time.

I’d like to know where this mythical game is that has more content and keeps coming out with more content that can keep someone with 5000 hours happy.

My guess is only a sandbox MMO can do that, where content is continually created by playing it. Themepark MMOs will never support 5000 hours in two years.

WoW has lots of content and its fun in its way and it has a lot going for it thats why its such a big deal. GW2 has just been a fake hype. Anet doesn’t have forever to make things right.

Who knows maybe we will get major content in this month or the next. Or maybe nothing will happen and this game will still be the same thing since release which will cause the player base to leave.

Also The ‘’ I quit’’ threads that pop up from time to time happen because those people want to let anet know what was wrong. Sure some people just make those threads to announce their departure but over all you can see the damage that no major content has done to the player base. I remember seeing 4-5 ‘’i quit’’ threads withing one week before. Think of the people that quit without any heads up or reasons to what is making them leave.

WoW is eight years old, of course it has lots of content. There are also I quit threads about WoW. WoW has lost millions of players in the not so recent past. They didn’t leave because WoW has lots of content.

I have two sons that used to play WoW religiously. They played the new content, finished it, got bored and unsubbed until new stuff came out. Usually that was a period of months.

So if it has so much content, why did they always end up unsubscribing?

Vayne.8563:

WoW is eight years old, of course it has lots of content. There are also I quit threads about WoW. WoW has lost millions of players in the not so recent past. They didn’t leave because WoW has lots of content.

I have two sons that used to play WoW religiously. They played the new content, finished it, got bored and unsubbed until new stuff came out. Usually that was a period of months.

So if it has so much content, why did they always end up unsubscribing?

I’d think you’d be in a better position to speak for your own sons than we are, but since you asked I’m going to go with “short attention spans”.

Vayne.8563:

If you have 5k hours in this game, over the last two years, of course there’s not going to be anything to do. No developer in the world could ever make enough content for you.

Ever play WoW? Everyone takes a break for months until the new content comes out. Happens all the time.

I’d like to know where this mythical game is that has more content and keeps coming out with more content that can keep someone with 5000 hours happy.

My guess is only a sandbox MMO can do that, where content is continually created by playing it. Themepark MMOs will never support 5000 hours in two years.

GW1 did. Still playing it to this day 8+ years later.

Vayne.8563:

WoW is eight years old, of course it has lots of content. There are also I quit threads about WoW. WoW has lost millions of players in the not so recent past. They didn’t leave because WoW has lots of content.

I have two sons that used to play WoW religiously. They played the new content, finished it, got bored and unsubbed until new stuff came out. Usually that was a period of months.

So if it has so much content, why did they always end up unsubscribing?

See here is the thing, WoW has challenging content and always has something to work towards. Even if it requires some grind. WoW has real raids with unique challenges that requires real coordination. Guild Wars 2 has none of this. GW2 could have all the content in the world but it wouldn’t matter if the content isn’t engaging. One of the things I always tell new people when they are thinking about getting GW2, is that first and foremost, DO NOT watch the Manifesto video. Second I tell them that there are not traditional raids or coordinated dungeons. And third, and most importantly, there is no reason to be in a Guild in Guild Wars 2 because there is absolutely no content that requires a Guild and the game requires you to be self sufficient, which sounds nice on paper but directly conflicts what makes and MMO what it is.

Mosharn.8357:

New stat combo is cool but It has no value.

I say the new stat combo has no value because the pve content in this game just requires you to do dmg. So if you aren’t doing dmg you’re doing it wrong. If they do a major haul to pve more builds will see the light of day. As of now All you need is dmg to do pve(except for world bosses because you can just crutch on soldiers for that).

The new stat is not the problem here, you are the problem.

It may come as a surprise to you, but there is also something called WvW and PVP. You should try them sometime, they’re quite fun. For you to demand that everything must be for PVE is selfish.

Anyways, try the new stat combo in WvW or PVP on a guardian sometime, you may be astonished at the affectiveness of it.

Not all life is PVE.

DarcShriek.5829:

Mosharn.8357:

New stat combo is cool but It has no value.

I say the new stat combo has no value because the pve content in this game just requires you to do dmg. So if you aren’t doing dmg you’re doing it wrong. If they do a major haul to pve more builds will see the light of day. As of now All you need is dmg to do pve(except for world bosses because you can just crutch on soldiers for that).

The new stat is not the problem here, you are the problem.

It may come as a surprise to you, but there is also something called WvW and PVP. You should try them sometime, they’re quite fun. For you to demand that everything must be for PVE is selfish.

Anyways, try the new stat combo in WvW or PVP on a guardian sometime, you may be astonished at the affectiveness of it.

Not all life is PVE.

Then it is pretty terrible that you need to PvE to get a useless stat combo in PvE don’t you think? If it were only good in WvW wouldn’t it make more sense that you got the combo from doing WvW?

Considering this stat combo is totally useless in PvE without a proper aggro system (not a bad thing), they should have added something more useful. Or at least added more stat combos that made sense alongside this useless one.

Vayne.8563:

Mosharn.8357:

Vayne.8563:

If you have 5k hours in this game, over the last two years, of course there’s not going to be anything to do. No developer in the world could ever make enough content for you.

Ever play WoW? Everyone takes a break for months until the new content comes out. Happens all the time.

I’d like to know where this mythical game is that has more content and keeps coming out with more content that can keep someone with 5000 hours happy.

My guess is only a sandbox MMO can do that, where content is continually created by playing it. Themepark MMOs will never support 5000 hours in two years.

WoW has lots of content and its fun in its way and it has a lot going for it thats why its such a big deal. GW2 has just been a fake hype. Anet doesn’t have forever to make things right.

Who knows maybe we will get major content in this month or the next. Or maybe nothing will happen and this game will still be the same thing since release which will cause the player base to leave.

Also The ‘’ I quit’’ threads that pop up from time to time happen because those people want to let anet know what was wrong. Sure some people just make those threads to announce their departure but over all you can see the damage that no major content has done to the player base. I remember seeing 4-5 ‘’i quit’’ threads withing one week before. Think of the people that quit without any heads up or reasons to what is making them leave.

WoW is eight years old, of course it has lots of content. There are also I quit threads about WoW. WoW has lost millions of players in the not so recent past. They didn’t leave because WoW has lots of content.

I have two sons that used to play WoW religiously. They played the new content, finished it, got bored and unsubbed until new stuff came out. Usually that was a period of months.

So if it has so much content, why did they always end up unsubscribing?

Apart from WoW and Lotro, this game has lots of content! ( and better features imo, on some things )

DarcShriek.5829:

Mosharn.8357:

New stat combo is cool but It has no value.

I say the new stat combo has no value because the pve content in this game just requires you to do dmg. So if you aren’t doing dmg you’re doing it wrong. If they do a major haul to pve more builds will see the light of day. As of now All you need is dmg to do pve(except for world bosses because you can just crutch on soldiers for that).

The new stat is not the problem here, you are the problem.

It may come as a surprise to you, but there is also something called WvW and PVP. You should try them sometime, they’re quite fun. For you to demand that everything must be for PVE is selfish.

Anyways, try the new stat combo in WvW or PVP on a guardian sometime, you may be astonished at the affectiveness of it.

Not all life is PVE.

As ive said ive played for a while and most of it was in wvw so no need to bother telling others how to play the game.

As for your argument. The stat set is not viable even in wvw and for pve no one will waste time on it as its not needed. In wvw if you got bunch of these guys running around they wont matter if the other side has the same zerg builds. If you got half a zerg with the new stats vs a zerg with your typical soldiers/zerker mix zerg the new stat one will lose everytime because not enough dps will come. You will get pushed around because you wont deal dmg.

If you got a guard with this all they can do is give same amount of heals the other stat combo healer guards can do but those guys can still deal damage.

Aside from trolling the new stat set has no value in any content unless 1 or 2 people in a whole group use it but that defeats the purpose of alternative viable builds don’t you think?

Im Mudbone.1437:

Vayne.8563:

If you have 5k hours in this game, over the last two years, of course there’s not going to be anything to do. No developer in the world could ever make enough content for you.

Ever play WoW? Everyone takes a break for months until the new content comes out. Happens all the time.

I’d like to know where this mythical game is that has more content and keeps coming out with more content that can keep someone with 5000 hours happy.

My guess is only a sandbox MMO can do that, where content is continually created by playing it. Themepark MMOs will never support 5000 hours in two years.

GW1 did. Still playing it to this day 8+ years later.

We don’t talk about GW1 here.

By the way I do like how this thread got moved to the Maguuma event section just because of the thread name. The topic is on the over all impact of each update in this game but I guess thread title more important.

It’s only chapter 1. The next chapter is dropping in a week and the teaser already shows some new areas. Be patient.

I can’t necessarily say I agree with everything WP says, but he makes good points. Compared to previous patches, this one is sizable, especially story-wise. If they maintain this through every patch this season, it would be a great improvement over S1, imo.

Those three months and some weeks were probably spent trying to develop the entirety of Season 2 all together. Either they’re half way done or just about finished in order to ensure updates on a two-week rotation. I don’t know about you OP but I’d be pretty mad if they left us with Dry Top and had us wait another four weeks but we so far have Episode 2 right around the corner with the new trailer already up – telling us it’s on schedule.

Yeah Dry Top is smaller than I would have liked and I do hope they open up the map more if not all the way and at least bigger than Dry Top itself. However, comparing this to Season 1 Episode 1? I like the direction they’re going here. Story is bleh but I usually quick read and click away.