Guild Wars 2

Crafting goes up to 500 … in all weapon-creating disciplines. We will be able to craft some nice ascended weapons, but there is no word found about precursors? I bet many, like me, thought that crafting the precursor comes with the introduction of ascended weapon crafting. So now I’m very baffled. Anything to say about this, Arenanet? Does it come later or don’t you want to spoil it?

It would be nice if it did, but they never said it would. They just said that precursor and ascended crafting would require 500 craft level(s)

well currently the price for all of the precursors is skyrocketing. I bought Venom for 19 gold….it’s now 70+gold. The legend has doubled in price, all of the others are going up too!! What is this world coming to?!

khani.4786:

What is this world coming to?!

Champion farming. /ew

With the increased money and T6 drops, i am guessing everyone is running to forge their legendaries. Thus the dramatic increase of precursors.

khani.4786:

well currently the price for all of the precursors is skyrocketing. I bought Venom for 19 gold….it’s now 70+gold. The legend has doubled in price, all of the others are going up too!! What is this world coming to?!

I noticed this as well. With a year of farming under my belt I’m getting closer and closer to completing all the Gifts I need and I’m becoming more and more sensitive to changes in precursor prices. Hope ANet gives some more information about this so I can adjust my plans accordingly.

I am hoping we can craft precursors. The legend is like 600g and I cant afford that unless i save for months. >.< Forge is useless by itself since getting a pre is like .000000000000001% chance.
Plz let us craft precursors I want bifrost!

Buffy.9246:

I am hoping we can craft precursors. The legend is like 600g and I cant afford that unless i save for months. >.< Forge is useless by itself since getting a pre is like .000000000000001% chance.
Plz let us craft precursors I want bifrost!

Learn to amass wealth better. I’m sure the requirements to craft a precursor will be just as expensive, if not more so, than buying one outright right now. They’re just giving us a fourth option to get them – drop, forge, buy, and soon craft.

Buffy.9246:

I am hoping we can craft precursors. The legend is like 600g and I cant afford that unless i save for months. >.< Forge is useless by itself since getting a pre is like .000000000000001% chance.
Plz let us craft precursors I want bifrost!

lol 600g…

hate to break it to you but it shot up to 1300g this morning…

it will probably come back down and settle near 800g after a day or two though.

I almost had the money to buy the legend and now its 1200g… I guess im not going to do the bifrost. I’ll wait till the price get a bit reasonable otherwise I need to pray to get some named exotic or a precursor cause im not going waste money on the MF its throwing way the time I spent farming

The mention I recall is that the plan is for some precursors to become craftable. No mention of the time frame nor the method. No details that I’m aware of.

…and dawn just went from 540g to 1111g. these people cant actually expect anyone to pay that price surely when they can buy sunrise outright for 1750g.

Brother Grimm.5176:

The mention I recall is that the plan is for some precursors to become craftable. No mention of the time frame nor the method. No details that I’m aware of.

I would guess lots and lots of the time gated materials we are going to get…… At least now we should have a better vision of how long it will take to get a precursor other than buying it.

Psycosi.4670:

…and dawn just went from 540g to 1111g. these people cant actually expect anyone to pay that price surely when they can buy sunrise outright for 1750g.

Flippers do odd things sometimes. This person/persons maybe thought that because of all the farming the last few weeks that they might be able to get a big return on controlling a market but they might have over estimated.

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

oh please the difference between what you claim real legendary and “easy mode” is that the real legendary came from farming CoF1 day in day out. All it proves is you wasted more time. Also who says the crafting is easy mode? For the same money you still need to gather 100 lodestones of 2 types 100-250 orichalcum ingots/ancient wood logs and a berserker exotic of the weapontype to make a precursor. Do the math on all that and you still come to the area of 250-500g for a precursor.

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

As opposed to easy-mode buying it on the Trading Post?

The only thing we know at the moment is they will come later this year. It is possible next patch or the one after or maybe not until the end of the year or somewhere in between.

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Who said it will be easy-mode? As i can see, in GW2 random is more rewarding than straight way. Everything that comes from random is cheaper than craft.

Pennry.9215:

khani.4786:

What is this world coming to?!

Champion farming. /ew

But wouldn’t that drop the value if more were found?

Sushihammer.4813:

Pennry.9215:

khani.4786:

What is this world coming to?!

Champion farming. /ew

But wouldn’t that drop the value if more were found?

That requires people to sell them.

Whether that person crafted or bought their legendaries, it ain’t no a real “easy mode”. A normal non-flipper farmed CoF1 tillz eyez bleedz (or insert any gold farm) and then proceed to buy the legendary.
The crafter, bought, farmed and forged the mats for their legendary.
So you are saying just because you forged your legendary, you are more worthy to it? The “Farm CoF1 tillz eyez bleedz” player had to work harder than the crafter, considering the fact that the one who made the legendary want to profit from it too (item and the service).
Those who buy it with their credit cards, worked for their money and then injected it into the game. They supported the game way more than farmers, flippers and crafters, they truly deserved the legendary in a sense.

So i tend to chuckle, when i see ppl arguing over who is more worthy of a legendary by ways of acquiring it.

As a player who only needs his precursor to get his legendary, yes I would like an easier way of obtaining it rather than RNG or getting 400+ gold.

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Agreed.

Allowing both precursors and full legendaries to be put up on the TP for sale (rich kid / easy mode) – Fail.

Anet said months ago that they’ll continue to monitor the precursor prices and make changes if necessary (this was after the karka-fail event) – Fail.

Myself and quite a few others on my server in particular have all the gifts ready to go, just waiting on that darned precursor. Go easy on us please – we’ve invested a shedload of time and cash into these already.

Valandil Dragonhart.2371:

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Agreed.

Allowing both precursors and full legendaries to be put up on the TP for sale (rich kid / easy mode) – Fail.

Anet said months ago that they’ll continue to monitor the precursor prices and make changes if necessary (this was after the karka-fail event) – Fail.

Myself and quite a few others on my server in particular have all the gifts ready to go, just waiting on that darned precursor. Go easy on us please – we’ve invested a shedload of time and cash into these already.

If you think crafting precursor will be easy and cheap you are really naive kitty.

I know it’s not gonna happen, it was more a rhetorical plea. -_-

Pennry.9215:

khani.4786:

What is this world coming to?!

Champion farming. /ew

now you get to go mat farming….unless u wanna spend tons of gold on mats

Would like to know this as well. It’d be nice to get a precursor through actual gaming effort rather than dumb luck and TP robber barons.

Got about 1/3 progress for a greatsword, but both Dawn and Dusk prices are insane right now. Sure, it’ll take farming to be able to collect money to buy them from TP, but in that time prices may continue to rise… -_-’

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Top lel.

Just because you want your legendary (which you doubtless have already) to be a unique snowflake, doesn’t mean the devs should sit back as prices on the TP continue to skyrocket.

Clearly crafting procedure shouldn’t be easy (perhaps involving crafting together one of each ascended stat of that weapon?) and should probably result in an account-bound version of that precursor, but there should be a CONSISTENT method of obtaining it rather than shelling out gold in a kittened market or becoming the king plumber of Zommoros.

If nothing else, the existence of a consistent method will place an approximate upper bound on tp prices.

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Yes, it’s right! If I want to craft my precursor, obtaining material and stuff trough dungeons and loots, I want a different legendary, not the same of who obtain it from mere luck!

Stampede.5308:

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Yes, it’s right! If I want to craft my precursor, obtaining material and stuff trough dungeons and loots, I want a different legendary, not the same of who obtain it from mere luck!

To be honest i don’t think the current legendaries are all luck. Sure, some people get lucky and a precursor drops for them, but I am sure a lot of those people sell the precursors. If you are like me you have wasted 100s of gold in the forge trying to be one of those “lucky ones”. In the end, I decided it would be best to just work hard and save the mats, and eventually just buy a precursor from the TP. I forged my firts legendary in February, and i think it represents a lot of hard work

Piogre.2164:

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Top lel.

Just because you want your legendary (which you doubtless have already) to be a unique snowflake, doesn’t mean the devs should sit back as prices on the TP continue to skyrocket.

Clearly crafting procedure shouldn’t be easy (perhaps involving crafting together one of each ascended stat of that weapon?) and should probably result in an account-bound version of that precursor, but there should be a CONSISTENT method of obtaining it rather than shelling out gold in a kittened market or becoming the king plumber of Zommoros.

If nothing else, the existence of a consistent method will place an approximate upper bound on tp prices.

At first thought I agree with you, but really I can see where this person is coming from. Nothing is more annoying than putting in a ton of work on something to have the game devs suddenly make it 100% easier.

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Of course they should be different sets, so people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendaries just by being lucky (or used real cash).

timidobserver.7925:

Piogre.2164:

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Top lel.

Just because you want your legendary (which you doubtless have already) to be a unique snowflake, doesn’t mean the devs should sit back as prices on the TP continue to skyrocket.

Clearly crafting procedure shouldn’t be easy (perhaps involving crafting together one of each ascended stat of that weapon?) and should probably result in an account-bound version of that precursor, but there should be a CONSISTENT method of obtaining it rather than shelling out gold in a kittened market or becoming the king plumber of Zommoros.

If nothing else, the existence of a consistent method will place an approximate upper bound on tp prices.

At first thought I agree with you, but really I can see where this person is coming from. Nothing is more annoying than putting in a ton of work on something to have the game devs suddenly make it 100% easier.

100% easier would be making it free. I don’t suggest making it easier on average, just making it consistent, because right now it’s not becoming easier- it’s actually becoming harder due to market inflation.

Say 4 DIFFERENT ascended weapons of the same type put in the forge result in that weapon’s precursor (that’s pretty expensive btw, just check http://dulfy.net/2013/08/30/gw2-account-magic-find-ascended-crafting-and-legendary-weapons-revamp-preview/ for a preview of the ascended crafting process)

not necessarily make precursor EASIER by much, but put in a CONSISTENT method to put a cap on the market and provide an alternative to playing the slots at the toilet

I get a kick out of this notion of “true” legendaries and how some are more worthy than others.

Lucking out on the MF doesn’t mean anything besides you are lucky. That’s all I think when I see someone with a legendary, they got lucky and good for them. They’re not better than me. They’re not more “worthy”. They didn’t put in any more work than I have, and in most cases less.

Before those of you who farmed to oblivion and bought/farmed every single item you need try to get all high and mighty on me, I’m sure you worked really hard for it and I’m happy for you. Still doesn’t make you any better than anyone else, you chose to spend hours melting your eyes farming gold. Most people don’t want to do that. You have every right to be proud of your legendary, but in my experience you are the vast minority.

Toxity.2547:

Crafted precursors should have their own set of legendaries.
That way, people know who the real “legendary” players are and who got their legendary from easy-mode crafting.

Because simply buying a precursor off the TP is so legendary, right? And easy-mode crafting? If/when it is finally available, you can bet the mats are not going to be easy. They’ll probably be time-gated/require excessive rare/high priced mats. If anything people who make their own precursor and then their own legendary I would say are more legendary than you “real” legendary players who either got lucky or are just rich farmers/flippers.

No crafted precursors with the next updates… It will come, when, we do not know.