Q:
is creating deleting new characters allowed?
I wouldn’t see why not. You put the same amount of time and effort into it, as if you would do it daily with only 1 character. The only difference is that you get your skins faster than as if you were to do it daily. If this was not allowed, they would make baubles soulbound & unable to put in the bank.
I already got 2 skins myself, and the box only has been out a couple days.
I wouldn’t see why not. You put the same amount of time and effort into it, as if you would do it daily with only 1 character. The only difference is that you get your skins faster than as if you were to do it daily. If this was not allowed, they would make baubles soulbound & unable to put in the bank.
I already got 2 skins myself, and the box only has been out a couple days.
well, i think,
if use the baubles bubbles for skin, i think they (anet) dun mind.
earlier, i heard (read) people said (typed and posted in gw2 official forums) that there will be a hot fix soon.
they were referring to the moto 2nd tab items
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Moto
basically these items
Obsidian Shard 1
Crystal 1
Philosopher’s Stone (6) 1
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Obsidian_Shard
Cost 2,100 karma
3 per 3 laurels
15 fractal relic
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crystal
3 skill point per 5
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone
1 skill point per 10
say if i take about 10 – 15 mins to clear zone 1 via creating & deleting new asura warrior, add 3 – 5 more mins to clear zone 2 as well,
assuming i take on average
10 – 15 minutes to get 2 baubles bubbles from clearing zone 1 only
i can redeem:
Obsidian Shard x2 worth 4,200 karma
if i spend
20 – 30 minutes to get 4 baubles bubbles, i can redeem:
Philosopher’s Stone x12 worth 1.2 skill point?
if i spend
30 – 45 minutes to get 6 baubles bubbles, i can redeem:
Crystal x6 worth 1.2 skill point?
i think their (anet) concern is getting x2 obsidian shard under 10 – 15 minutes which is worth 4,200 karma.
i dun think i can farm 4,200 karma under 10 – 15 minutes.
I wouldn’t see why not. You put the same amount of time and effort into it, as if you would do it daily with only 1 character. The only difference is that you get your skins faster than as if you were to do it daily. If this was not allowed, they would make baubles soulbound & unable to put in the bank.
I already got 2 skins myself, and the box only has been out a couple days.
well, i think,
if use the baubles bubbles for skin, i think they (anet) dun mind.
earlier, i heard (read) people said (typed and posted in gw2 official forums) that there will be a hot fix soon.
they were referring to the moto 2nd tab items
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Motobasically these items
Obsidian Shard 1
Crystal 1
Philosopher’s Stone (6) 1http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Obsidian_Shard
Cost 2,100 karma
3 per 3 laurels
15 fractal relichttp://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crystal
3 skill point per 5http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone
1 skill point per 10say if i take about 10 – 15 mins to clear zone 1 via creating & deleting new asura warrior, add 3 – 5 more mins to clear zone 2 as well,
assuming i take on average
10 – 15 minutes to get 2 baubles bubbles from clearing zone 1 only
i can redeem:
Obsidian Shard x2 worth 4,200 karmaif i spend
20 – 30 minutes to get 4 baubles bubbles, i can redeem:
Philosopher’s Stone x12 worth 1.2 skill point?if i spend
30 – 45 minutes to get 6 baubles bubbles, i can redeem:
Crystal x6 worth 1.2 skill point?i think their (anet) concern is getting x2 obsidian shard under 10 – 15 minutes which is worth 4,200 karma.
i dun think i can farm 4,200 karma under 10 – 15 minutes.
The only way I can see them ‘fixing’ this is account-binding the puzzle. which would ruin the replay value of the event all together. If people want to farm, then they should be allowed to.
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The only way I can see them ‘fixing’ this is account-binding the puzzle. which would ruin the replay value of the event all together. If people want to farm, then they should be allowed to.
well i wanna farm too but i dun wanna get suspended for doing so. >.<
It’s very similar to the Black Lion key issue, which got official comments here:
I wouldn’t worry. They might decide to change the reward system, but I don’t see anyone getting banned.
It’s very similar to the Black Lion key issue, which got official comments here:
I wouldn’t worry. They might decide to change the reward system, but I don’t see anyone getting banned.
ya. i found this one too while i was googling for an official stance regarding black lion key runs.
i think the moto pricing for some items will be changed,
“What I was told was that the devs felt that the time spent was acceptable in relation to the rewards.”
i.e. what i said earlier, about
10 – 15 mins per 2 baubles bubbles able to redeem 2 obsidian shards worth 4,200 karma. surely no one can farm 4,200 karma in 10 – 15 minutes right? even though obsidian shards are for personal use, mainly legendary weapon crafting, and not sell-able for profit in terms of in game currencies etc.
You are having a GIRAFFE asking that Question
Anet have a RESTRICTION that [Bauble Baubles] can only be got from chests ONCE per DAY PER CHARACTER
. . .By creating and deleting characters you are AVOIDING that restriction therefore it must be some form of EXPLOIT
I have children so i often have to use examples that they can relate to . . . . .
. . . . . .
A Shop is giving away One Free cookie per day to Customers, you have the cookie but decide that it is so yummie that you cant wait until tomorrow for another free one, so you go back to the shop in disguise for another one.
Should You be surprised if the shopkeeper recognizes you and bans you from EVER having any more free cookies?
but …
we are able to create and delete characters …
Personally I feel it is one of those “not an exploit, but still not cool” activities. You’re clearly bypassing the designer’s intent in how the dungeon was supposed to work, although since you still need to run through the dungeon each time to get the baubles, it’s not a true exploit as you have to put in the time and effort of completion. Functionally it’s no different from someone who has 10 characters and studiously does the SAB on each every day.
They only issue suspensions when an exploit basically allows you to print gold.
If this was considered an exploit, they would have disabled the SAB on day 1 to fix the problem. They would have simply either made the chest account bound or removed the rewards.
I figured they would have removed Obsidian Shards due to farming, since they much easier to get using baubles. The skill point items can already be easily farmed on level 1s. But it is for a limited time only, so it’s probably intended.
all right thanks everyone.
because anet is very trigger happy with permanent suspensions so …
i just need to be sure haha.
cheers!
2 things:
1.) If Obby Shards are hard to get due to the fact that they cost 4.2k Karma, why can you buy them so easily from Moto? (isn’t that EXTREMELY generous from ANet?)
2.) I can get 42.000 Karma in 10 SEConds. How? I rapidly double click my Jugs of Liquid karma…
kittenOLOLOLOLOLOLOO JAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JAJAJAJAAAAAAAAAAAA JAJAJA JAAA JAJAJAAA
I had 30 saved up from last year ?:D
2 things:
1.) If Obby Shards are hard to get due to the fact that they cost 4.2k Karma, why can you buy them so easily from Moto? (isn’t that EXTREMELY generous from ANet?)
2.) I can get 42.000 Karma in 10 SEConds. How? I rapidly double click my Jugs of Liquid karma…
kittenOLOLOLOLOLOLOO JAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JAJAJAJAAAAAAAAAAAA JAJAJA JAAA JAJAJAAA
I had 30 saved up from last year ?:D
yes, that’s why i’m curious.
either they are being generous or this is a trap!
hmmm i have like 200 karma jugs. saving them up for future usage.
all right thanks everyone.
because anet is very trigger happy with permanent suspensions so …
i just need to be sure haha.
cheers!
Everytime Anet does a “trigger happy suspension/ban” they suspend the major offenders and ban at MOST 10 people. This game has hundreds of thousands, if not millions of players. If you’re one of those 10 people that [deserve to] get banned, then you wouldn’t be questioning it.
If the SAB was only available for a week i could understand why people might want to delete/create to gain BB.
BUT SAB is available for a month. . .
.. . . . . . . . . So thats (min) 5 character(slots) x 30 days = 150 “runs”, min 6 BB per run = 900 BB in the month. . Thats the equivalent to 18 skins OR 900 Shards- Surely thats enough WITHOUT resorting to “working around” the DEVS restrictions.
Also Josh has said that the BB should have awarded per the work done per zone (SO he’s not entirely happy about speed farming (Thats how i interpreted his post)),
It’s allowed, but Josh said at one point that he wants to discourage this type of farming, though that it’s allowed within the way things currently work.
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I think it might be a reflection of a deeper issue if people feel the need to do it to get the tokens they want for the items being sold. Means the price of the items are far too high to begin with.
You are having a GIRAFFE asking that Question
Anet have a RESTRICTION that [Bauble Baubles] can only be got from chests ONCE per DAY PER CHARACTER
. . .By creating and deleting characters you are AVOIDING that restriction therefore it must be some form of EXPLOITI have children so i often have to use examples that they can relate to . . . . .
. . . . . .
A Shop is giving away One Free cookie per day to Customers, you have the cookie but decide that it is so yummie that you cant wait until tomorrow for another free one, so you go back to the shop in disguise for another one.
Should You be surprised if the shopkeeper recognizes you and bans you from EVER having any more free cookies?
Poor analogy. It would be more like sending your friend in for a cookie for you. And then sending another friend in. And maybe that creepy guy sleeping by the mailbox. But they’re willing and know they’re getting it for you.
By rolling & deleting you aren’t avoiding the mechanic of one run per character because…you are only doing one run per character. It’s not as if creating a new character resets the daily counter on your other toons.
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If the SAB was only available for a week i could understand why people might want to delete/create to gain BB.
BUT SAB is available for a month. . .
.. . . . . . . . . So thats (min) 5 character(slots) x 30 days = 150 “runs”, min 6 BB per run = 900 BB in the month. . Thats the equivalent to 18 skins OR 900 Shards- Surely thats enough WITHOUT resorting to “working around” the DEVS restrictions.
Also Josh has said that the BB should have awarded per the work done per zone (SO he’s not entirely happy about speed farming (Thats how i interpreted his post)),
well for me, i have 8 characters and 1 free character slot.
i know i can do 8 times on 8 on my characters but i like to spread them around the world. i.e. i hate paying waypoint fees.
but then again so far i have only created and deleted 7 characters so far. stopped after that.
i know i can do 8 times on 8 on my characters but i like to spread them around the world.
Same. I did try the delete/create thing a couple of times, but having to go through the intro was enough of a deterrent for me. Despite this practice supposedly being popular I’ve had to solo the intro every time, at least when making an Asura.
I also have yet to loot a single weapon skin, so it’s easier/more fun for me just to farm baubles and not worry about chest runs anyway.
What work is there to do in SAB other than to get to the end. A lot of the old 8-bit games were to go from point A to B.
So far I haven’t delete/created any characters but I do have 6 active characters that I’m using every day. I have 1 open character slot and have considered doing it, but I can only do so many speed runs in a night before it becomes tedious. I only run Z1&2 so each night I get 24 BBs. That’s plenty. I actually don’t have the gold needed to buy as many super weapons as I’ll have BBs for in a week’s time.
Flixx Gatebuster, Orwynn Lightgrave, Seras Snapdragon
[TTBH] [HATE], Yak’s Bend(NA)
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I personally don’t agree with the whole create/delete farming idea, i doubt any devs would create content thinking people would play it in this way.
It seems to me that anet added the Obsidian shards / crystals / philosopher’s stones in order to give people another way at approaching there legendary.
I mean it gives 6 philosopher’s stones.. the exact amount required for a single clover recipe.
I may be reading to much into it but it just seems to me like they added this as a help towards the Gift of fortune.
1 bauble bubble isn’t a bad price for 1 Obi shard / 1 Crystal / 6 Stones.
When using other currency to purchase these items [skill points, karma] your gaining other things at the same time [exp, gold, rares etc] from the world as you farm, none of which is available within the super box.
The whole purpose of the create/delete not being hotfixed is it promotes hardcore gameplay in a casual setting. This game, for the most part, caters towards softcore/casual players, but there ARE hardcore players in the mix. Guild Wars at it’s core is a game that caters to hardcore players. Whether or not you see it immediately, it truly has some form of replayability for players to be able to continue when at the endgame. In this case, most players who want to grind/farm are discontent with just running it once or even once on all their characters. By giving players the option of grinding the Super Adventure Box, it allows the hardcore players to constantly play it while the casuals get their fill.
Additionally, it allows people to keep playing it more than once every day. Imagine if you could only do a dungeon once a day, no matter which path. Oh, if you’re casual that won’t matter. Okay, imagine if you could only play in a zone until you died, then you had to go to another zone, no matter what character you’re on. It’s not quite the same, but there’s no real ingame analogy that will show what the casuals are trying to throw onto the hardcores.
I’m somewhere in between, personally. I’m a hardcore casual player. I have done the delete/create but most of my baubles are from my actual characters. In fact, I have done the Super Adventure Box more times on my main than I have created/deleted characters for it. I also have 2 tradeable skins (both Scepters) and 121 Bauble Bubbles. Lastly, I have 1269 Baubles (equal to 5 Bauble Bubbles) which I am just holding onto because I have no idea what to do with them. And I only grab them while doing “speedruns”, so no, I don’t farm Baubles specifically.
They are not stopping you doing any content – They are just putting a Diminished Reward system in place- EXACTLY like dungeons.
If you are that hardcore then you will do ALL the content for extra Baubles not Just speed runs for Bauble Baubles.
121 BB (at full runs) is 8 runs per day – you don’t say how many character slots you have.
If you have less than 8 slots then obviously you have gained more than someone who has paid for extra character slots
Why have a ‘once per day per character’ restriction at all if it can be bypassed by new characters but there’s no way to bypass it for established characters?
If the ‘time spent’ creating a new char and speedrunning through the intro is considered sufficient to unlock all the daily chest restrictions for a newly created character, why isn’t there a simlar option for established characters?
The whole game is centered around creating an attatchment to characters and dressing them up in fancy outfits, then whenever non-level-locked content comes out is suddenly becomes considerably more beneficial to mothball the characters you’ve spent so long pimping out, in favour of faceless L1 clones who are exempt from the restrictions put in (presumably) to prevent farming.
Why repeatedly put in ‘once per day per character’ restrictions but allow such a simple way to bypass them? If I can do SAB chests 20 times in a row on a series of L1 clones, why can’t I do it on my main character by completing a ‘reset chests’ task of simlar length to the char creation and intro process?