Guild Wars 2

I like reading peoples idea’s on how they think the story is going to pan out, but I’m currently confused. Many people are saying the Pale Tree is at the centre of this cinematic (omadd’s machine) but how can that be when we was told about the Eternal Alchemy way back in GW1 even before the Pale Tree was born.

I know someone is going to tell me why, but would just like it explained as I’m not getting it

It’s the eternal alchemy, as seen fron Scarlets view, and the pale tree is in the centre because she’s a Sylvari. That’s what I could understand from the dialogue, but I’m also confused why my Asura saw the tree in the centre…

Is it explicitly a tree that everyone sees?

Yes it is. Regardless of race.
I agree it’s a little bit weird how the Eternal Alchemy can change overtime. As you said, we learned about Alchemy Circles already in GW1.

But, let me quote something from another thread:

The Dragon Glint was part of it in GW 1. In GW 2 the role of Glint seemed to be resurrected in the form of the Pale Tree. If Mordremoth can corrupt the Pale Tree in GW 2 then in GW 1 Glint could have been corrupted by Kracky in a similar way. In addition if the Pale Tree represents Tyria in GW 2 then in GW 1 Glint could have represented Tyria in a similar way.

Now, I don’t really see the great link between Glint and the Pale Tree, but the general idea of something being able to change form over time is something I absolutely belive in. It has been mentioned that it could be not necessarily the Pale Tree, but rather The Dream we’re seeing in the Eternal Alchemy – only depicted by it’s current form?

Also, the trees are not necessarily something new. There were Ancestor Trees http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ancestor_Tree in gw1, Ventari’s Refuge and the Pale Tree most likely being two of them.
So maybe are we seeing the Ancestor Trees, in plural?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bloodstone also showed us an Alchemy Circle, but here: we have the Eye of Janthir in the centre. I guess it’s possible that the Dream lived within the Eye of Janthir in gw1, but since then has moved form to the Pale Tree.

Lots of different theories you could make of this mess. Hopefully it will be elaborated on in next episode

My theory is that the Pale Tree was planted in a location that’s connected to the heart of the Eternal Alchemy, perhaps a powerful ley line hub. Certainly, there are some floating specks and some light play around the tree when you visit it in GW1. Those might be the same kind of manifestations as we see in the hub we visit in the Dry Top caves. Why did Ventari pick the place for his sanctuary? Something about it must have appealed to him.

We might see the Pale Tree in the center in that vision, because she’s connected to that center. Basically, I think the Pale Tree became a lot more powerful and significant than what the seed she grew from was supposed to be, because of where she was planted.

Except that it wasn’t Ventari who planted the seed. It was Ronan who planted it on the graves of his family that had been killed by the White Mantle/Mursaat (can’t remember which one exactly)

We don’t know exactly what the Pale Tree represents in the vision. It could be acting like a balance, a shield, the dream, the tree itself, or something else.

esit.3927:

Many people are saying the Pale Tree is at the centre of this cinematic (omadd’s machine)

It’s not at the centre of the cinematic. The cinematic starts with a representation of the pale tree, and after that we’re shown something entire different.

People may be mistaken to assume that the pale tree we are shown earlier, is the same as the central sphere.

Still, why Pale Tree? What is so important about that one specific, considering there are alluded to be others Sylvari bearing trees out there. Maybe it’s not our Pale Tree? Or Tree shaped something and player characters just assume that is Pale Tree after reading Scarlet Diary.

Manasa Devi.7958:

My theory is that the Pale Tree was planted in a location that’s connected to the heart of the Eternal Alchemy, perhaps a powerful ley line hub.

Icdan Sevaen.4628:

Except that it wasn’t Ventari who planted the seed. It was Ronan who planted it on the graves of his family that had been killed by the White Mantle/Mursaat (can’t remember which one exactly)

In agreement with Icdan here. This is where it get’s a little too… fate-ly I guess… not a good word. Maybe destined?

Anyway what I getting at is that we know for a fact that the seed of the Pale Tree was buried with Ronan’s family. He found the seed in a cave, went back home to find his family died, buried them and buried the seed with them. So the chances that Ronan would randomly choice to bury his family on some magical spot seems very unlikely. I guess you could simply say it was the will-of-the-eternal-alchemy, but I’ve never been a big fan of the whole ‘destiny’-deal.

sAdam.5876:

Still, why Pale Tree? What is so important about that one specific, considering there are alluded to be others Sylvari bearing trees out there. Maybe it’s not our Pale Tree? Or Tree shaped something and player characters just assume that is Pale Tree after reading Scarlet Diary.

Exactly, any explanation that ANet gives us (and I’m sure they will, remember the last LW episode ended with us on our way to see the Pale Tree) will have to keep in mind that the Pale Tree was one of many seeds, and isn’t the only tree (Malyck’s tree). So what makes the Pale Tree so unique?
The thing is, I think ANet is going in a different direction with the lore than they had originally planned in regards to the Pale Tree. This isn’t a bad thing, but it does mean that you’d either have to retcon some stuff or leave some inconsistencies in the lore. Clearly it seems like they’re diminishing the role of Ronan, if they go with the ‘Pale Tree is on a magical nexus’ explanation.

sAdam.5876:

Still, why Pale Tree? What is so important about that one specific, considering there are alluded to be others Sylvari bearing trees out there. Maybe it’s not our Pale Tree? Or Tree shaped something and player characters just assume that is Pale Tree after reading Scarlet Diary.

Maybe the vision just represents Pale Trees in general.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

sAdam.5876:

Still, why Pale Tree? What is so important about that one specific, considering there are alluded to be others Sylvari bearing trees out there. Maybe it’s not our Pale Tree? Or Tree shaped something and player characters just assume that is Pale Tree after reading Scarlet Diary.

Maybe the vision just represents Pale Trees in general.

I can work with that. Sylvari would still be plant Messiahs, but now it won’t be exclusive to just one tribe…it would have got uncanny resemblance to certain Chosen Nation though.