1. thats not quantum science we are talking about now, so i cant understand that you miss the needed iq to think 1 little step further
2. every class had the opport. to unequip. a weapon after kill-stacks are accumaleted outside of spvp.
3. so after update the amount of sigill is the same like before. 4 possible against 2 possible sigills. i still see no difference
4. i say it again, comparing a piece of a complex system is absurd. ele has 4 weaponsets and engi can have 4 too.
5. sigills arent there to DEFINE your build. so the difference is small enough to ignore it. esp if u consider that engi and ele has a massive advantage with more skills.
6. stop qq for the sake of qq cause u think apples are different then pears and u think they should be equal.
1: It isn’t quantum science, it is basic math.
2: This and the change of two handed finally having two sigils is the thing that is bringing the issue to the field.
3: It is not the same since If you have a 2 handed weapon you effectively can have 3 sigils and the weapons had a higher base damage from the start of the game to “balance” the fact that they only got a single sigil.
4: Ele does not have 4 weapon sets, it has 4 Attunements and a single weaponset, for some reason you miss that fact that they have to choose 1 set of weapons to get 1 set of sigils. Engi can literally have 1 weaponset if they do not use a kit, which again is not a weapon set. So unless they allow the player to equip sigils to those kits and Attunements this will be an issue and a complaint.
5: EXACTLY, and with Ele and Engi only really getting to choose one active sigil to DEFINE your build and other classes getting to choose up to 3 with a stacking sigil you come to the issue of FLEXIBILITY of choice.
6: Stop trolling, everyone knows apples and pears are nothing alike and are equal as they are both healthy and a fruit. I leave the QQ to the zerker healing signet warriors.
So now that I addressed your points, the issue tends to effect WvW with balance issues, since PvE really doesn’t matter in terms of stacking sigils, you either use them or you don’t and just use force, most people don’t care unless your in a hardcore dungeon group. WvW these are forced in to builds because without them you are 250 stats behind the player you are facing before the potential added 450 from guard stacks. It is going to add to the stacks creep that will allow those classes with those two-handed weapons that they never had that second slot in to just go plop and done. It won’t change their build at all since they got a free slot where all but Staff Ele and Rifle Engi lose the ability to effectively have 3 sigils running at a time as they did before. Engi and Ele were forced to do this to catch up with the stat disparity and in WvW it is not hard to go kill trash-mobs to gain the 25 stacks unless your in EotM where they smartly took out all that trash. This is going to further stick Ele towards the bottom of the rung and start finally effecting Engi in WvW since now they have to choose if they want stacks or if they want procs where as every other class gets to chose what 3 procs they want with what stack. Thus they will be able to have 2/3 effective sigils working between two weapon-sets compared to Engi and Ele that will only ever be able to have 2 effective sigils.
In s/tPvP you choose do you want the stacking sigil, do you think it is worth the proc since you weren’t able to change weapons once in the fight, in every other mode it was common practice to change them. So in PvP you either choose to go for the extra stat or the extra proc, and as most classes generally ran a 1 handed and two handed weapon they still only had 2 effecive sigils running. I will admit a few people did the dual duel weilding, but it was rare as the chance to get stacks is much more limited in tPvP and hotjoins we all know doesn’t matter to balance which was really the only place you saw people reaching 25 stacks without the other team snowballing.
And if you want QQ, here is some great insight, lets say that nerf to crit dmg over does the nerf to healing signet and the scaling issues of some attacks, weren’t adjusted enough and ANet doesn’t step up within a month, how many people do you think are going to quit in WvW and sPvP? What if the adding the two sigil slots to hambow effectively erases the damage nerfs? Do you really think people are going to stick around for long? What this thread is about is asking them to have some foresight on the balance change or them to tell us they have. We don’t want to sit here scracting our kitten for the next 4-12 months asking when are they going to fix this and that is why we are talking about it now. If you see it as QQ then maybe your in the wrong thread, if you see it as something that shouldn’t be looked in to, then add some constructive feedback rather then it is the same as before so stop QQing.
