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Posted by: corin.1298

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Posted by: P Fun Daddy.1208

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And?
Pretty much every class has the ability to hit really high numbers if they spec for it. Warriors shouldn’t be an exception.

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Posted by: corin.1298

corin.1298

And?
Pretty much every class has the ability to hit really high numbers if they spec for it. Warriors shouldn’t be an exception.

Examples or it didnt happen.

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Posted by: P Fun Daddy.1208

P Fun Daddy.1208

And?
Pretty much every class has the ability to hit really high numbers if they spec for it. Warriors shouldn’t be an exception.

Examples or it didnt happen.

You can get some really absurd ‘nado shower crits if you go all out for it, there’s videos of that in the ele subforum. Thieves can spec for all-out backstab damage and hit some really high numbers, and mesmers can get some crazy shatters off. Necros can do pretty well for themselves in Lich Form, though power necros are an endangered species. I don’t think engies or rangers can hit the same raw numbers, but engies make up for it in other ways, and rangers have that whole pet thing sapping their damage.

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Posted by: corin.1298

corin.1298

And?
Pretty much every class has the ability to hit really high numbers if they spec for it. Warriors shouldn’t be an exception.

Examples or it didnt happen.

You can get some really absurd ‘nado shower crits if you go all out for it, there’s videos of that in the ele subforum. Thieves can spec for all-out backstab damage and hit some really high numbers, and mesmers can get some crazy shatters off. Necros can do pretty well for themselves in Lich Form, though power necros are an endangered species. I don’t think engies or rangers can hit the same raw numbers, but engies make up for it in other ways, and rangers have that whole pet thing sapping their damage.

The ele thing doesn’t really work in spvp. The thief, I’ve never been hit for more than 5k at a time; but yes it can be spammable, but its much more gimmicky than 1 ability, hitting for more than your health pool.

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Posted by: P Fun Daddy.1208

P Fun Daddy.1208

And?
Pretty much every class has the ability to hit really high numbers if they spec for it. Warriors shouldn’t be an exception.

Examples or it didnt happen.

You can get some really absurd ‘nado shower crits if you go all out for it, there’s videos of that in the ele subforum. Thieves can spec for all-out backstab damage and hit some really high numbers, and mesmers can get some crazy shatters off. Necros can do pretty well for themselves in Lich Form, though power necros are an endangered species. I don’t think engies or rangers can hit the same raw numbers, but engies make up for it in other ways, and rangers have that whole pet thing sapping their damage.

The ele thing doesn’t really work in spvp. The thief, I’ve never been hit for more than 5k at a time; but yes it can be spammable, but its much more gimmicky than 1 ability, hitting for more than your health pool.

I dunno, I’ve squashed quite a few people using meteor shower in PvP.

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Posted by: havoc.6814

havoc.6814

And?
Pretty much every class has the ability to hit really high numbers if they spec for it. Warriors shouldn’t be an exception.

Examples or it didnt happen.

You can get some really absurd ‘nado shower crits if you go all out for it, there’s videos of that in the ele subforum. Thieves can spec for all-out backstab damage and hit some really high numbers, and mesmers can get some crazy shatters off. Necros can do pretty well for themselves in Lich Form, though power necros are an endangered species. I don’t think engies or rangers can hit the same raw numbers, but engies make up for it in other ways, and rangers have that whole pet thing sapping their damage.

The ele thing doesn’t really work in spvp. The thief, I’ve never been hit for more than 5k at a time; but yes it can be spammable, but its much more gimmicky than 1 ability, hitting for more than your health pool.

I dunno, I’ve squashed quite a few people using meteor shower in PvP.

You’re absolutely right. I’ve been squashed by a couple of meteor showers, melted by a Necro, and hit for a lot more than 5k by a backstab. Of course, I’m a warrior, so just wiggled my HS and laughed about it. (I know, bad joke….)

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Posted by: Coarr.3286

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I don’t think engies or rangers can hit the same raw numbers, but engies make up for it in other ways, and rangers have that whole pet thing sapping their damage.

12-16k with maul is possible ( one trick pony )

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Posted by: meikodesign.6471

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I don’t think engies or rangers can hit the same raw numbers, but engies make up for it in other ways, and rangers have that whole pet thing sapping their damage.

12-16k with maul is possible ( one trick pony )

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Posted by: Fenrir.3609

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You got hit by one of the most highly telegraphed attacks from someone apparently in a full glass, one trick pony build, after you had burned all your counter moves/abilities early.

And yes given the cheese build most likely used, other classes could burst him down quickly (especially if he had burned up all his possible counters like you had).

Why is this a thread again?

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Posted by: blutstein.2468

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highly telegraphed isn’t justifing oneshots, its kind of an ignorant statement… if you’re out of dodges, you die. And if you don’t notice that you are targeted….

Comparing that to meteor (walk out of the red circle) is a joke.
Even comparing a glassy warrior to a glassy ele or thief is ridiculous.

TLDR: oneshots shouldn’t be possible.

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Posted by: Marsares.2053

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You know when people are scraping the barrel in justifying a 17k hit when they say it’s highly telegraphed. Of course, telegraphed skills should hit harder as they can be interrupted, but 17k is out of whack and cannot be justified.

It’s funny to see how on one hand 17k damage is fine because it can be interrupted/dodged/etcetera as there needs to be risk/reward balance, yet on the other hand a skill such a Healing Signet which cannot be interrupted is fine with having a very high sustained HPS as well.

You can’t have your cake and eat it.

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Posted by: corin.1298

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Why is this a thread again?

Because it happened.

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

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Dude, you were brave posting this on the warrior boards.

Apparently doing 15K damage from 1200 range on a class with 20k health and 3k armour value is ok because it’s a warrior.

But because it has a charge up time, and an animation you are specifically meant to watch out at all times and save a dodge for that specific moment just in case it happens. Don’t worry about all those other people trying to hit you, or trying to hit them, you should just constantly be watching the warrior for the killshot wind up.

I’ve come to understand that people who play warrior almost exclusively have forgotten what full glass means.

Full glass isn’t 20k hps with 3k armour. For everyone but a necro that is considered very tanky. Glass means sub 2k armour and sub 15k hps.

The elementalists hardest hitting moves give you nice red circles to walk out from.

Even thieves have to get around behind you.

No single move should hit this hard with any build in a game where some classes can’t get above 15k hps without seriously dropping any sort of damage stats.

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Posted by: havoc.6814

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-A bunch of nonsense-

A full glass warrior with 20k hps and 3k armour. You are so full of it, it’s almost funny.

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Posted by: stale.9785

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Havoc, he exaggerates a touch. Full glass is about 22k HP, and 2400 armour. Which is still pretty kitten ed tanky for any other class. Plus the strongest passive heal in the game – exceeding even the potential healing from an AH guardian.

There is something completely inbalanced about warrior – the fact that they give up pretty much nothing to get incredible numbers being one of those things.

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Posted by: havoc.6814

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Havoc, he exaggerates a touch. Full glass is about 22k HP, and 2400 armour. Which is still pretty kitten ed tanky for any other class. Plus the strongest passive heal in the game – exceeding even the potential healing from an AH guardian.

There is something completely inbalanced about warrior – the fact that they give up pretty much nothing to get incredible numbers being one of those things.

No, the full glass build for maxing rifle damage is 21, 027 hp and 2113 armour. A strong passive heal, but a worthless active, and no condition removal traited. Exceeding the healing from an AH guardian? Just no. The person playing this build will be destroyed in seconds by any serious player who halfway knows what he is doing.

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Posted by: Fenrir.3609

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Why is this a thread again?

Because it happened.

Well in fairness what happened doesn’t really seem worth making a thread about, as alluded to by the part you seem to have cut out.

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Posted by: corin.1298

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Havoc, he exaggerates a touch. Full glass is about 22k HP, and 2400 armour. Which is still pretty kitten ed tanky for any other class. Plus the strongest passive heal in the game – exceeding even the potential healing from an AH guardian.

There is something completely inbalanced about warrior – the fact that they give up pretty much nothing to get incredible numbers being one of those things.

No, the full glass build for maxing rifle damage is 21, 027 hp and 2113 armour. A strong passive heal, but a worthless active, and no condition removal traited. Exceeding the healing from an AH guardian? Just no. The person playing this build will be destroyed in seconds by any serious player who halfway knows what he is doing.

Just reading over havoc’s posts. He seems to be a true warrior advocate lol…

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

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Whether the spec is worth playing (it is probably not) or it is a gimmick, the ability to one shot enemy’s is never a good design idea.

In many other MMOs, there was always a build where the bow class or thief class could essentially assassinate a weak foe. That lasted all of about a couple of months before getting nerfed as being about as much fun as sitting frozen in crowd control for an entire fight.

No class should one shot. No ability should one shot.