Guild Wars 2

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

No vincecontix not you too!! It’s thieves, thieves!

unlucky.9285:

really? then please tell me how to deal with it. sitting in aoe is only a delay and even then they can ignore it and win depending on your health thanks to increased damage attacks from stealth and increased damage the lower your opponents health is..

running the other direction from where they stealthed… im pretty sure they can move faster

try to hunt them down hmm did they go left or right? did they go further away or port behind me? couple that with no info on if you are hitting them good luck.

these are the suggestions i have seen people give out.

You shouldn’t just be sitting in aoe you randomly put out. You need to time it and understand what a thief will do in a given situation. That’s true for fighting any class. You need to know what your opponent is capable of and needs to do. It does work.

If you get bursted, cc/heal up/counter attack so they are forced to withdraw. You should be able to recover from a backstab burst (or a burst from any class unless you goofed). It’s not like other classes can’t burst as well. It’s a skill you need to have.

So you failed to stop them from stealthing (oops on your part), and then they run in the other direction. So… you’ve won the cap. Who cares that they didn’t die and you can’t tell exactly where they went? Often I’ll be able to get the cap and pull them back to me and finish them off anyways though… even if not and they come back for a 2nd attempt… great! That’s less time they are able to 2v1 team mates (etc.) and more time wasted trying to kill me and cap.

Once again I highly suggest you post your class/build/gear in the thief subsection so they can give you more specific advice.

RedSpectrum.1975:

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

No vincecontix not you too!! It’s thieves, thieves!

Teefs.

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

So you post a vid of what’s considered the second most OP class in the game being wrecked by what’s considered the first most OP class in the game?

Facerolls a faceroll?

Ross Biddle.2367:

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

So you post a vid of what’s considered the second most OP class in the game being wrecked by what’s considered the first most OP class in the game?

Facerolls a faceroll?

God I wish my comp was good enough to record. Eng also wrecks Teef all day long. Inb4 eng is faceroll.

Aberrant.6749:

Ross Biddle.2367:

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

So you post a vid of what’s considered the second most OP class in the game being wrecked by what’s considered the first most OP class in the game?

Facerolls a faceroll?

God I wish my comp was good enough to record. Eng also wrecks Teef all day long. Inb4 eng is faceroll.

^^^ engineers laugh at thieves so hard. Whether they be condition or even power, the amount of area control they put out can lock down most thief builds easy

RedSpectrum.1975:

Aberrant.6749:

Ross Biddle.2367:

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

So you post a vid of what’s considered the second most OP class in the game being wrecked by what’s considered the first most OP class in the game?

Facerolls a faceroll?

God I wish my comp was good enough to record. Eng also wrecks Teef all day long. Inb4 eng is faceroll.

^^^ engineers laugh at thieves so hard. Whether they be condition or even power, the amount of area control they put out can lock down most thief builds easy

I don’t have issues with most engineers they have weaker cleansing then me but one thing they all do is pop supply crate on me everytime. I don’t understand for warrior as well I usually stealth until the stance is over and it’s not hard to evade the burst skills.

If you play thief you would know it’s UP class forced to used either full SA or Acrobatics to survive don’t have it you do not last long enough to do your damage. You probably encounter the glass canon ones with wrong weapon set and traits I only make you my target if you use P/D or S/D. D/.. is just meh do what you want.

Why isn’t anyone talking about improving thief,make the trap and trick skills more useful,give them more survivability without having to use stealth,make other weapon useful in pvp because I’m pretty sure everyone knows P/P and S/P are useless in pvp D/D is weak without stealth.

RedSpectrum.1975:

No vincecontix not you too!! It’s thieves, thieves!

Hey, be happy it’s Thief and not Rogue so at least people get the singular form right.

facerollinception

Sagat.3285:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Aberrant.6749:

Ross Biddle.2367:

vincecontix.1264:

Thiefs are weak get over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbG1TCNxVY total noob warrior facerolling thiefs

So you post a vid of what’s considered the second most OP class in the game being wrecked by what’s considered the first most OP class in the game?

Facerolls a faceroll?

God I wish my comp was good enough to record. Eng also wrecks Teef all day long. Inb4 eng is faceroll.

^^^ engineers laugh at thieves so hard. Whether they be condition or even power, the amount of area control they put out can lock down most thief builds easy

I don’t have issues with most engineers they have weaker cleansing then me but one thing they all do is pop supply crate on me everytime. I don’t understand for warrior as well I usually stealth until the stance is over and it’s not hard to evade the burst skills.

If you play thief you would know it’s UP class forced to used either full SA or Acrobatics to survive don’t have it you do not last long enough to do your damage. You probably encounter the glass canon ones with wrong weapon set and traits I only make you my target if you use P/D or S/D. D/.. is just meh do what you want.

Why isn’t anyone talking about improving thief,make the trap and trick skills more useful,give them more survivability without having to use stealth,make other weapon useful in pvp because I’m pretty sure everyone knows P/P and S/P are useless in pvp D/D is weak without stealth.

p/d = enjoy eating your sneak attack back to you, but it is the strongest vs eng due to lack of cond removal. Avoid the c&d (unless you want to reflect back a sneak attack), ss isn’t that big of a deal. If it’s a venom share, just block the burst and you’re fine. S/d will still take damage even with all of the evades due to so many attacks + damaging fields. I do see a lot of turret eng’s around as of late in hotjoin/solo though… those are bad eng’s. If an eng needs to bust a crate on a thief 1v1… what is this… I don’t even… hotjoin?

so I just went full aoe seeing as that’s the “counter” to thieves I was running axe focus, dagger warhorn. wos woc and wod with chill traited I stagger my wells I use axe 3 as often as possible for the retaliation and try to immob whenever I can, I have 2 sources of clannel skills axe 2 and dagger 2. according to the posters in this thread I should annihilate a thief and win easily,

well this is the outcome sees theif approaching… drops wod on self expecting the teleport (the skills are cast outside wod so the blind doesn’t and never will block the first hit) I am stunned they can hit so fast the blind pulses does not stop much stun is over I attack them with immob (the animation is so obvious and the cast time is so long they drop black powder on me and teleport out (the chill does nothing to thieves initiative regain) I use my warhorn and switch to axe and try to channel them they pop a blind and dodge twice I try do drop wos they stun me blind me then teleport to me and start hitting me I drop wos try to immob them dodge try to use focus skills dodge dodge hit with axe 3 (keep in mind they are standing outside of my stagnant wells) getting ranged now so I use dagger 2 for channel .. they stealth and dodge basically negating it now I don’t know where they are I again drop aoe and spread it out around me only to find them ranging me for 5 seconds dodging all of my ranged attacks or evading /teleporting /blinding from outside the wells I think you get the point by now

this fight went on for about a minute. all my major attacks were easily dodged due to the vigour and reduced costs to dodges aoe did stuff all steath negated all forms of control I have because most usefull skills require a target sd 4 and 5 are easily interrupted something you have easy access to the blinds… omg@##$@

all I did was stall the thief the end result was always the same .. they could avoid all major damage and if they stuffed up then they could just hop away or use their bow.. heal gain initiative AND COME BACK FOR THE KILL every time.

this thief then continued into the next game and I decided to sit back and watch them. this is what I found out

your initiative regens way too fast and is not on par with other classes cooldown system, you need to remember there is nothing to prevent you from using your big hitting skills and defences time and time again while other classes have their defence and offence stuck behind a cool down, this is what is not fair especially when chill is used..

this thief did not die to any other class but another thief and Mesmer .. wonder why

the fights went the same way mine did with the other classes in my team. someone pops aoe stand outside of it range/wait for attacks dodge/blind the problematic ones aoe is over go in for the spike after stunning then retreat heal up come back over and over again until the opponent had nothing usefull to save them due to cool downs then get a free win.

the initiative never ran out, in the time it took them to get enough initiative for a full burst most classes would only have one or 2 skills off cool down..

They can be annoying yeah :-P

i always try to place my burst attacks between there spamming skills, if it works i win, if not they win..

But often its like this:

Evade
Evade
miss
blinded
miss
Evade
hit with #1 because getting blinded
Evade
blinded
miss
YES i did hit him!! he’s now 65% health
POEF gone into stealth

And repeat

Soon or later i get everything on cooldown and its over..

Tip when they like stealth play:
Just keep smashing #1 all day long and run around and always keep doing circles so your back is always turned around..

if you keep doing this it often does work :-P
but kitten boring

To all the Thief haters out there. Heres what I have to say.

If you are going to cry and blabber about how “Overpowered” the thief is, get good at the game, we have been nerfed way too much. They gave us a 5k heal because we have at least 11-16k health. We have stealth skills to aid us because there is no time for mistakes as a thief. We have one of the most DPS in the game is because our survivability is garbage.
Long story short: Get good at GW2. Oh, and a tip for you crying whiners: use your dazes, stuns, knockdowns.

Thank you
-All Thieves

Zeepo.5218:

Long story short: Get good at GW2. Oh, and a tip for you crying whiners: use your dazes, stuns, knockdowns.

Thank you
-All Thieves

Yes. Use them so they can be blinded, dodged, evaded, then they can do their bursts without interruption.

Rofl.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Yes. Use them so they can be blinded, dodged, evaded, then they can do their bursts without interruption.
Rofl.

So you want thieves to just stand still and deny them any means to defend? You really see a balance problem in getting outplayed?

unlucky.9285:

lots of stuff

make a video… then we can point things out for you, what you might do better and what to watch for when fighting a thief. it’s very hard to do so when all you’re pretty much describing can be summed up with “every attack i do is blinded, evaded, or negated through stealth then i died.”

MarauderShields.6830:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Yes. Use them so they can be blinded, dodged, evaded, then they can do their bursts without interruption.
Rofl.

So you want thieves to just stand still and deny them any means to defend? You really see a balance problem in getting outplayed?

Nope. You’re reading way to much into my very minimal post. I just thought it was funny how Zeepo responded to unlucky and Nicknamenick considering he just explained a typical fight wit a thief.