Guild Wars 2

First, i would like to thank Arena.net for finally buffing Ele. in their staff department; which i felt was too weak, including it’s very long casting mechanics.
To begin with, I always favor this class in all situations but lately it has come to my attention,this rising power has too much power at hand and must be dealt with as soon as possible.
My case,my focus, d/d ele; they are the only class who have the highest burst after warriors.
Their outrageous numbers are the following….
Ride the lightning (6,799), Fire grab (9,647), Arcane Wave (5,171), Arcane Power (4,865)
Seriously,
Are these justified?
Of course not!
It’s outrageous!
Very game breaker, yet with all their given powers, they are given full control to sabotage this game at will.

We the World of Guild Wars 2 find D/D elementalist> Guilty, and your sentence shall be— nerf ride the lightning, fire grab, arcane wave, and arcane power by 33%-45%

D/D Elementalist, the world of guild wars 2 will no longer tolerate, your unjust unfair unbalance practices..

Take heed and learn from your punishments; only one shall live, only one shall survive, only one shall conquer darkness, only one shall conquer death, only one shall uphold the truth; which is light, only one shall rise to be the only Supreme Power in the world of Guild Wars 2, and that only one is……. Justice.

Justice must prevail,
Liberty must prevail,
till, the end of guild wars 2 survival.

(I will continue to encourage and to remind Arena.net; Class Balance, must be enforced for Guild Wars 2 survival).

Burnfall.9573:

(I will continue to encourage and to remind Arena.net; Class Balance, must be enforced for Guild Wars 2 survival).

I literally laughed at this for 5 minutes when I got to the end. This is the class that has the lowest health and the most prominent x/x/x/30/30sh proffesion. This is the class, besides engineers, that needs the most buffs and looking into. But you got what you wanted Ele’s D/D build is gone now with the Arcana switches.

The good ol’ Burnfall. He’s still at it.

Burnfall.9573:

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Ride the lightning (6,799), Fire grab (9,647), Arcane Wave (5,171), Arcane Power (4,865)
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And where are these numbers coming from? Are you running full zerker? Because if so, engineers rifle number 5 crits for 12,000 easy. These numbers are expected in zerk but then again auto attacks do basically half there damage to you. You either ( just like in the Claymore manga) choose to be a defensive build and outlast your opponent with aegis, regeneration, etc. or you kill to survive with full seeker and high dps. They have there pros and cons and not one professions should be nerfed when Thiefs and warriors can do it just as well. Elementalist are meant to do high damage or support.

Requiem.8769:

The good ol’ Burnfall. He’s still at it.

Huh I thought his name was Burnfail

The elementalist described in burnfall’s post dies in1 sec vs most burst builds. Something that he apparently left out of the discussion, lol.

Some of you should be glad this guy isn’t hunting for forum members, because you took the bait pretty readily.

I laughed so hard when i saw his figures in the post.

If only eles hit that hard, consistently.

Fuzzion.2504:

I laughed so hard when i saw his figures in the post.

If only eles hit that hard, consistently.

I had a 16k fire grab, on 4 targets at once. That is consistent!!!!

Ok!

Disclaimer: They were uplevels in WvW, I had 110% crit damage and 25 stacks of might. It was glorious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

This is the funniest post I’ve seen in this subforum in months.

I’m curious as to what happened to you that you’re calling to nerf one of the weaker specs in the game.

The D/D Ele sees virtually no play in sPvP, is now bad for roaming thanks to the RTL nerf, due to sustainability nerfs has become suboptimal in WvW Raids, and is generally regarded as highly underpowered compared to other specs in PvE Dungeons.

I have played this spec for well over 1000 hours, and played it in high-end PvE, organized WvW, and YOLO QUEUE sPvP. I even have an Incinerator.

It’s highly underpowered. You’re completely wrong to call to nerf it. The Ele is highly squishy and dies easily to any other profession when not specced for bunker. If it’s a bunker spec, its sustained damage becomes absolutely pitiful. At best, its burst damage is pretty good, but even then, it’s either too bunkery to deal enough damage, or too glassy to survive. The elementalist is just generally underpowered across all formats of the game and D/D especially has been nuked several times and even now the developers gloat over how well they managed to kitten the spec.

You are completely wrong.

I think he was being sarcastic …

I think he wasn’t, which is probably the most fun fact about this topic

Burnfall.9573:

Their outrageous numbers are the following….
Ride the lightning (6,799), Fire grab (9,647), Arcane Wave (5,171), Arcane Power (4,865)

D/D Elementalist, the world of guild wars 2 will no longer tolerate, your unjust unfair unbalance practices..

Justice must prevail,
Liberty must prevail,
till, the end of guild wars 2 survival.

(I will continue to encourage and to remind Arena.net; Class Balance, must be enforced for Guild Wars 2 survival).

MarzAttakz.9608:

I think he was being sarcastic …

Of course he was being sarcastic. Can’t you tell from the “enforcing Justice and Liberty” mumbo-jumbo?

And if he were being serious, he’d mention the fact that I consistently hit 2x-3x those numbers with LH AA … oops.

EDIT: lol, I’m hitting higher with LH AA than that 9k Fire Grab he mentioned, and I’m just killing random Dolyaks while waiting for Jormag. So this has got to be a joke thread.

MarzAttakz.9608:

I think he was being sarcastic …

But aNet never sees it like that and we get nerfed into oblivion because of it.

I can’t tell any more! I’ve been through every single emotion on this subforum since beta.

Kinda like beating something everyday, eventually the target of your wrath confuses abuse with affection.

He was NOT being sarcastic nor trolling, check his post history

As the saying goes; The good ol’ Burnfall, he’s still at it.

Sometimes I wonder if menace and him are cousins.

The only thing D/D eles are guilty of is being underpowered right now.

This forum post made me laugh so hard. My “sentence” can be responding to this post.

Show those numbers on a warrior that has full exotics in a video. They aren’t real. And that’s not to say I can’t hit up to 10k with a fire grab, but the skill and aim and conditions it takes to get that snipe is great.

I vote this topic taken down.

Burn go back to the thief boards please, those guys got really mad haha.

Burnfall.9573:

only one shall rise to be the only Supreme Power in the world of Guild Wars 2, and that only one is…….

Glass cannon warrior?

Pssst, someone hide churing earth before he finds out about that skill.

It’s not that elementalists are OP…
It’s just that all elementalists are better players than you.

#ELEtism

Mash Hog.5672:

It’s not that elementalists are OP…
It’s just that all elementalists are better players than you.

#ELEtism

heheh after all this time thats only natural, The weak have been weeded out who couldn’t handle the play style and left only the strong. Evolution at its best.

Mash Hog.5672:

#ELEtism

lololol! I love it!

Mash Hog.5672:

#ELEtism

That looks like a new signature, to me.

Imagi.4561:

Mash Hog.5672:

#ELEtism

That looks like a new signature, to me.

Ok guys!
Lets make this a thing
#ELEtism

Mash Hog.5672:

Imagi.4561:

Mash Hog.5672:

#ELEtism

That looks like a new signature, to me.

Ok guys!
Lets make this a thing
#ELEtism

#Eletism

Someone needs to make a guild

Totally agree with the #ELEtism thing guys, nice one

Edit: Updated signature

Ditto, perfect sig!

Those are glass (+/- bloodlust/might/sigil stacks) vs glass numbers. Any class can achieve that, or more, in less time.

Killshot warrior for example.

ELEtism should be a guild like mentioned above, help new people that are having trouble, just like they have in the mesmer forums

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

Only serious.. elaborate replies are welcomed.

(This evidence is more than what i had anticipated in the posted thread. In other word, i underestimated the capacity of D/D Elementalist bursts (10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

Once again, my encouragement to Arena.net; this game breaking unbalance class, must be dealt with, without having any remorse or sympathy whatsoever,

This threat must be severely dealt with or eliminated, at once.

-Arena.net, we the community would like to Thank You! in advance

Burnfall.9573:

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

Only serious.. elaborate replies are welcomed.

(This evidence is more than what i had anticipated in the posted thread. In other word, i underestimated the capacity of D/D Elementalist bursts (10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

Once again, my encouragement to Arena.net; this game breaking unbalance class, must be dealt with, without having any remorse or sympathy whatsoever,

This threat must end at once.

We the community would like to Thank You! in advance, Arena.net

THAT WAS INCREDIBLE … not!

What you don’t see are the 300 times he died when one of his opponents actually hit back or the 600 times he died running into more than 3 people or the 100 times he died falling from a cliff.

But thanks for the entertainment, I wish you all the best on your crusade against us.

Burnfall.9573:

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

Ohhh, a WvW video, that really proves something…

/sarcasm

Come back in the time when we will be the only class which can burst like this.
And don’t forget to close the door behind you, see ya

I have 2×80 Warriors, 1×80 Ranger and 1×80 Thief. Been working on an Ele for 2 weeks now. So that’s where I am coming from.

In no way could this be considered OP. To get these numbers the player has pretty much forfeited all other stats to go full glass cannon. In most situations the player will get their butts handed to them. We can all make a video highlight reel of class X dominating new/unsuspecting players.

Call for improvements not downgrades to a class. If you cannot do that do not post.

Burnfall.9573:

10k, that’s it?

Burst ele is dangerous and underrated. It just takes a little more tactics than facerolling your keyboard in full bunker.

Sidenote: mmm chicken…

Well Warriors, Thiefs … can do the same with zerker on zerker light armor.

wow thats alot of people that didn’t dodge a big glowy ball of plasma

Burnfall.9573:

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

Only serious.. elaborate replies are welcomed.

(This evidence is more than what i had anticipated in the posted thread. In other word, i underestimated the capacity of D/D Elementalist bursts (10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

Once again, my encouragement to Arena.net; this game breaking unbalance class, must be dealt with, without having any remorse or sympathy whatsoever,

This threat must be severely dealt with or eliminated, at once.

-Arena.net, we the community would like to Thank You! in advance

Send “Gasmic” a mail or a whisper and I’ll get you in the E L Etism[ELE] Guild!

Caffynated.5713:

Burnfall.9573:

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

Only serious.. elaborate replies are welcomed.

(This evidence is more than what i had anticipated in the posted thread. In other word, i underestimated the capacity of D/D Elementalist bursts (10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

Once again, my encouragement to Arena.net; this game breaking unbalance class, must be dealt with, without having any remorse or sympathy whatsoever,

This threat must be severely dealt with or eliminated, at once.

-Arena.net, we the community would like to Thank You! in advance

Now times that by 8 and ten with d/d elementalist bursts on a small, medium and large group of players.

Again, is this justified, unbalanced, and not a game breaker?

I leave that up to you to decide..

Well no, according to Arena.net, leaving this unbalance tyrant will disgrace their whole mission for class balance.

D/D Elementalist bursts, are an urgent threat at the moment and must be quickly targeted and eliminated as soon as possible. .

((thieves are deff. Op without a doubt but the call for immediate urgency is much needed at the moment))

The call for urgency is warriors that can all but full zerk while regenerating ~1000 hp/sec.

Burnfall, your drivel isn’t wanted here, but I don’t see your point. Multiply any class by ten and you’ll get a deadly semi-zerg. Its the same across the board.

Each class can get hits higher and stronger than the ele and far easier than the ele can.

Please put your future posts like this in the suggestions forum. Have a nice day..

Burnfall.9573:

Caffynated.5713:

Burnfall.9573:

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

Only serious.. elaborate replies are welcomed.

(This evidence is more than what i had anticipated in the posted thread. In other word, i underestimated the capacity of D/D Elementalist bursts (10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

Once again, my encouragement to Arena.net; this game breaking unbalance class, must be dealt with, without having any remorse or sympathy whatsoever,

This threat must be severely dealt with or eliminated, at once.

-Arena.net, we the community would like to Thank You! in advance

Now times that by 8 and ten with d/d elementalist bursts on a small, medium and large group of players.

Again, is this justified, unbalanced, and not a game breaker?

I leave that up to you to decide..

Well no, according to Arena.net, leaving this unbalance tyrant will disgrace their whole mission for class balance.

D/D Elementalist bursts, are an urgent threat at the moment and must be quickly targeted and eliminated as soon as possible. .

((thieves are deff. Op without a doubt but the call for immediate urgency is much needed at the moment))

Multiply it by 8 or 10? You know you can only hit 5 people with an AoE, right? If 5 people clump up, let you updraft them and then sit there while you unload, they all deserved to die.

Considering you die to a light summer breeze, lose most of your damage bonus 2 seconds into the fight and rely on combos that I almost never get hit by (lol rtl updraft), yeah it’s justified.

Ele has a cheese instant burst spec, but D/D lives in a different zip code.

Did you notice that this “OP Spec” you are complaining about has about 12K HP and about 1200 armor? Did you notice how not 1 person dodges his “ZOMG INSANE BURST” We don’t see anyone actually hit him that is aware of him, b/c a single auto-attack takes about 1/3 of his health.

There are plenty of other classes that can do this easier and more reliably: Warrior shield-bash/Eviscerate or skullcrack-100b or bullscharge-frenzy-100b will do even more damage, and survive for even more hits. Thieves can do even more damage from stealth, and never even see it coming. WvW condi necros can fear-chain you in about the same time. Engies can static-discharge/rifle you down in a few seconds. Mesmers can burst 100-0 from stealth even if you don’t stunbreak or anything. Etc.

Any class can burst just about has hard glass v. glass. The problem is, almost every encounter where someone does hit back, this guy takes EVEN MORE damage than he puts out and melts like a hot-knife through butter.

Also, if this is so OP, I suggest you try it out and enjoy being a “god among mortals” as seem to imply.

How do you guys not see this =.=

Burnfall.9573:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

(10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

He has 0 in arcana to achieve those numbers. It’s probably +10% damage traits all over place. He has his opening burst to fully down anything around him. He has no stunbreaker, and 1 cleanse on 15s cd. He is full zerker, but has at least 10 in water for the damage trait, giving him slightly more than base 12k hp.

Other classes can pull those same exact numbers, while having just as much speed, or more, in the delivery. With even more escapes, like stealth, sprint, leaps, etc.

10k is unacceptable? Try backstab from zerker thief with 3 stacks of bloodlust against fully PVT elementalist. This will hit you for 14k.

What class do you play that you don’t know how to counter an elementalist? A d/d one of all things. Where 100% of the burst is in melee range.

P.S. He probably dies 100s of times when his burst fails, or he’s loaded with conditions, or already used all 4 attunements. The video is a series of individual fights that he put together to show his best case scenarios. There’s really no frequency of getting away with this style of play, unless you’re bronze tier perhaps.

It’s the least forgiving of specs across the board for all classes.

“Did you notice that this “OP Spec” you are complaining about has about 12K HP and about 1200 armor”?

“Did you notice how not 1 person dodges his “ZOMG INSANE BURST”

18K+ Elelemtalist Burst

*There is a trend among Op classes, “if you can’t dodge my 1-2 instant damage, it is your fault”

Let’s take a quick look…

Thief- Stealth+Backstab= Instant Death
Elementalist- Burst+Knockdown+Burst = Instant Death
Warriors- Perma-Stun+ any weapon skill= Instant Death

Seriously,

Am i missing anything?

Where is the possibility of evading?
Where is the possibility of dodging?

None whatsoever.

In other word, ‘Stop blaming others for dying to your Op, 1-2 Instant death mechanics and status’’

(Ex; it’s like somebody driving a car and out of nowhere; gets hit by a truck. So are you going to tell the car driver that he or she, ’didn’t evade in time’?" Or let’s say, someone crossing the street and suddenly, a car speeds up and kill the person, are you going to tell me, the person didn’t dodge in time’?)

Seriously, Common!!

D/D Elemtalist, your time has ended; it is time to take full responsibility of your actions and account for your unjust imbalance Op practices.

In other word,

You long Op reign is long overdue and soon will end; you have no other alternative but to accept your fate

Because we have this spec, other classes have simillar specs, and they are very frequent at using them ASAP against eles in case we are running this spec. It’s a dog eat dog world out there.

Burnfall.9573:

End of child play.

Take a look at this, explain a to Arena.net and the community, why D/D Elementalist outrageous bursts, shouldn’t be balanced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOc6Lv_BYk

Only serious.. elaborate replies are welcomed.

(This evidence is more than what i had anticipated in the posted thread. In other word, i underestimated the capacity of D/D Elementalist bursts (10k+bursts= Unacceptable))

Once again, my encouragement to Arena.net; this game breaking unbalance class, must be dealt with, without having any remorse or sympathy whatsoever,

This threat must be severely dealt with or eliminated, at once.

-Arena.net, we the community would like to Thank You! in advance

The people he fought in that video were bad. Like really bad. It’s incredibly unlikely for an Ele to ever get off this sort of burst short of the enemy player being really bad or afk.