Guild Wars 2

I am looking to get back into my tempest (currently main druid in WvW, looking to branch out a bit) and ive been looking into different builds that seems good in WvW. I love the damage that air OL provides but I also know that ele is squish so Ive been tinkering with build editors and came up with the following. It looks to combine good damage (tempests usually have natural good sustain), condi cleanse through shouts (as I know earth has a cleanse but I wont immediately remember about it and the condi spam In WvW today takes skill to fight against), earth to reduce DPS damage to me, auras that grant me regen and more damage reduction. Couple ways to get auras both passive and active, teleport for setting up OL from range and blinking on top of enemies. Fresh air cause air OL = OP. Only think is the lack of active safestomp (passive from earth)

Weps give invuln, projectile hate, CC, heals, might stacking and auras.

Let me know what you think, any good modifications that will increase the potential. Constructive criticism only please.

Edit: Forgot to add build…opps

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XCVYidOAGYCcYilHATIAcA2gDlgMwL0dymZ/sA-TlRLAB+rEEA9APoeAL7PEvyPIUxhUARMGA-w

Thanks

TheReaIMC

Here a variant. But it´s arguable to use the flash not afteshock. It´s hard to decide.
Also one with air is a good trait in such a build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XCVYiNYCGYCcYilHATIAcA2gDngMwL0dymZ/sA-T1BFQBZRJIAeAAFZ/BwpHAeq/wgTAgCV+tO4AgBEbsxGbsSBExYA-w

Lower critical damage but a lot tankier especialy when in earth. The boon duration is also very helpful.

Shout builds are generally great for group stuff, but a lot of their power is wasted when solo roaming.

Ether Renewal is an amazing heal, since it removes 8 condis in a use.

agree in solo or 2 player roaming i also run eather renewal after the last patch where the cast time has been lowered. But i use durability rune not soldier. I did not change the rune.

I typically solo/duo roam unless I am havocing (so small scale)

Only suggestion I have for your build is perhaps consider switching “Earth’s Embrace” to “Elemental Shielding”. You lose out on Armor of Earth when you hit 50% but in my opinion its better to have control over when you want protection. By swapping to Elemental Shielding, all the auras you apply to yourself grant protection which is better then the 6 seconds provided by Earth’s Embrace, which also has a CD of 75 seconds.

Your D/F build has Shocking Aura, Fire Shield, Flash-Freeze, Rebound (if you don’t heal), Tempest Defense (25 second CD) and all the auras you get when successfully overloading any attunement. Its more useful to have protection on auras rather then Earth’s Embrace every 75 seconds. You will most likely only get to use Earth’s Embrace once or twice per fight depending on how long the fight goes on for.

Mizu.4508:

Only suggestion I have for your build is perhaps consider switching “Earth’s Embrace” to “Elemental Shielding”. You lose out on Armor of Earth when you hit 50% but in my opinion its better to have control over when you want protection. By swapping to Elemental Shielding, all the auras you apply to yourself grant protection which is better then the 6 seconds provided by Earth’s Embrace, which also has a CD of 75 seconds.

Your D/F build has Shocking Aura, Fire Shield, Flash-Freeze, Rebound (if you don’t heal), Tempest Defense (25 second CD) and all the auras you get when successfully overloading any attunement. Its more useful to have protection on auras rather then Earth’s Embrace every 75 seconds. You will most likely only get to use Earth’s Embrace once or twice per fight depending on how long the fight goes on for.

This is a great suggestion. I was only using this as a safe stomp (if I am attacked while stomping, the stab will provide me a safe stomp) however I was aiming for a hybrid fresh air auramancer so your suggestion makes sense.

Do you think that this build (with your change) may be at least ok for solo/duo roaming (or possible small scale)?

Any other suggestions from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

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Bigpapasmurf.5623:

I am looking to get back into my tempest (currently main druid in WvW, looking to branch out a bit) and ive been looking into different builds that seems good in WvW. I love the damage that air OL provides but I also know that ele is squish so Ive been tinkering with build editors and came up with the following. It looks to combine good damage (tempests usually have natural good sustain), condi cleanse through shouts (as I know earth has a cleanse but I wont immediately remember about it and the condi spam In WvW today takes skill to fight against), earth to reduce DPS damage to me, auras that grant me regen and more damage reduction. Couple ways to get auras both passive and active, teleport for setting up OL from range and blinking on top of enemies. Fresh air cause air OL = OP. Only think is the lack of active safestomp (passive from earth)

Weps give invuln, projectile hate, CC, heals, might stacking and auras.

Let me know what you think, any good modifications that will increase the potential. Constructive criticism only please.

Edit: Forgot to add build…opps

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XCVYidOAGYCcYilHATIAcA2gDlgMwL0dymZ/sA-TlRLAB+rEEA9APoeAL7PEvyPIUxhUARMGA-w

Thanks

TheReaIMC

I played something similar … but why dagger and not scepter ? Why not taking also diamond skin ?

PierPiero.9142:

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

I am looking to get back into my tempest (currently main druid in WvW, looking to branch out a bit) and ive been looking into different builds that seems good in WvW. I love the damage that air OL provides but I also know that ele is squish so Ive been tinkering with build editors and came up with the following. It looks to combine good damage (tempests usually have natural good sustain), condi cleanse through shouts (as I know earth has a cleanse but I wont immediately remember about it and the condi spam In WvW today takes skill to fight against), earth to reduce DPS damage to me, auras that grant me regen and more damage reduction. Couple ways to get auras both passive and active, teleport for setting up OL from range and blinking on top of enemies. Fresh air cause air OL = OP. Only think is the lack of active safestomp (passive from earth)

Weps give invuln, projectile hate, CC, heals, might stacking and auras.

Let me know what you think, any good modifications that will increase the potential. Constructive criticism only please.

Edit: Forgot to add build…opps

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAodn0XCVYidOAGYCcYilHATIAcA2gDlgMwL0dymZ/sA-TlRLAB+rEEA9APoeAL7PEvyPIUxhUARMGA-w

Thanks

TheReaIMC

I played something similar … but why dagger and not scepter ? Why not taking also diamond skin ?

Dagger was mostly for the added auras (as its kind of a fresh air / auramancer hybrid I am going for). It was a toss up between Diamond Skin or Stone Heart. I need to test if I can cleanse condis better or heal damage better… I think I can heal condis better but this is why I am here.

I run Condi-bunker support. DS works really well since alot of builds in WvW are based to condi bomb you. as far as critical hits go with the right rotation you should be perma to kitten near perma proc so crits dont matter much. IMO test it out, see how you like it and go from there. you can always change your trait line and utilities as needed to something that may suit better.

Zippidy.1045:

I run Condi-bunker support. DS works really well since alot of builds in WvW are based to condi bomb you. as far as critical hits go with the right rotation you should be perma to kitten near perma proc so crits dont matter much. IMO test it out, see how you like it and go from there. you can always change your trait line and utilities as needed to something that may suit better.

Ive ran up vs 2 condi tempests since HoT and neither were that great condi wise which is why I never looked into it. I love condi builds myself. If someone had a good condi build I would love to see it, however I don’t think that that the tempest line has much to offer condi builds.

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

Zippidy.1045:

I run Condi-bunker support. DS works really well since alot of builds in WvW are based to condi bomb you. as far as critical hits go with the right rotation you should be perma to kitten near perma proc so crits dont matter much. IMO test it out, see how you like it and go from there. you can always change your trait line and utilities as needed to something that may suit better.

Ive ran up vs 2 condi tempests since HoT and neither were that great condi wise which is why I never looked into it. I love condi builds myself. If someone had a good condi build I would love to see it, however I don’t think that that the tempest line has much to offer condi builds.

Ele lacking a good cover condi and with out a 3ed build condi dmg effect dps from ele never going to be great on players. Ele missing torment, confusion or poison condi effect that deal with ppl action in a way that bleed and burn do not do.

Mizu.4508:

Only suggestion I have for your build is perhaps consider switching “Earth’s Embrace” to “Elemental Shielding”. You lose out on Armor of Earth when you hit 50% but in my opinion its better to have control over when you want protection. By swapping to Elemental Shielding, all the auras you apply to yourself grant protection which is better then the 6 seconds provided by Earth’s Embrace, which also has a CD of 75 seconds.

stability

Great ideas guys, please keep em coming.

reikken.4961:

Mizu.4508:

Only suggestion I have for your build is perhaps consider switching “Earth’s Embrace” to “Elemental Shielding”. You lose out on Armor of Earth when you hit 50% but in my opinion its better to have control over when you want protection. By swapping to Elemental Shielding, all the auras you apply to yourself grant protection which is better then the 6 seconds provided by Earth’s Embrace, which also has a CD of 75 seconds.

stability

One word response, not even sure why I’m wasting my time on this.

1. You don’t have control over that stability in terms of when it decides to proc. It activates at 50% health and then goes on to a 75 second CD. Unless you can somehow time it to proc at the very moment you need it, the trait is essentially worthless.

2. Its not worth picking up especially if your incorporating auras into your build, Elemental Shielding >>> Earth’s Embrace.

3. Earth’s Embrace CD of 75 seconds is enormous and is the main reason why I stopped using this trait. The stability is nice, don’t get me wrong but realistically you’ll only be able to use this trait once per fight.

4. With the way WvW works and the builds that are out there roaming, getting spiked under 50% health happens so quickly, even if you are using a tanky build. Personally I use a tanky build and find myself dipping under 50% very easily.

All that and I’m trying to see what would help out the OP’s build. With 2148 armor, it only takes one nuke skill to drop under 50% and there goes Earth’s Embrace, proccing at the beginning of the fight.