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Posted by: Frostedblaze.9017

Frostedblaze.9017

Hey everyone. There wasn’t really an updated guide out there for the 0/20/0/20/30 build so I decided to make one. If you have any comments on the guide you can either contact me on here our in game at Aiden Frost. I’d love to answer any questions ya might have.

Here’s the guide: http://intothemists.com/guides/guide.php?id=202

Aiden Frost
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Posted by: Adastra.9821

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A note on Air Training, not only does this trait increase the damage of your air spells and your arcane spells when cast in air attunement, but when mixed with Arcana 15 (Lingering Elements) it increases the damage of all spells cast for 5 seconds after switching out of air attunement.

Lingering elements only affects the water and possibly fire and air 5 point minor traits. It might’ve worked for the earth minor iirc, but broke somewhere along the way. It definitely does not cause other attunement bonuses to linger unless they fixed it today. I doubt it though since it’s been like this since launch.

The only major thing to note is that your health is fairly low and your toughness is fairly high. This can make condi pressure difficult to deal with. We have a lot of cleanses at our disposal (Swap to water to clear 1, dodge roll to clear 2, dodge roll while in water attunement to clear another 1, water 5 to clear 1 more.) Use all of them and use them regularly.

While it may be good advice for someone just starting out or before the necro patch, the condi-heavy meta means you can’t afford to use all of them at once regularly. If you’re getting pressured, you sometimes might want to wait until the bleed stacks ramp up from 5 to 10 stacks for example. Your target might also be waiting for you to blow your cleanses since it’s pretty obvious when they’re used.

Other than that, it’s a nice summary of a build that’s remained relatively static (knock on wood) for the past few months.

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Frostedblaze.9017

A note on Air Training, not only does this trait increase the damage of your air spells and your arcane spells when cast in air attunement, but when mixed with Arcana 15 (Lingering Elements) it increases the damage of all spells cast for 5 seconds after switching out of air attunement.

Lingering elements only affects the water and possibly fire and air 5 point minor traits. It might’ve worked for the earth minor iirc, but broke somewhere along the way. It definitely does not cause other attunement bonuses to linger unless they fixed it today. I doubt it though since it’s been like this since launch.

The only major thing to note is that your health is fairly low and your toughness is fairly high. This can make condi pressure difficult to deal with. We have a lot of cleanses at our disposal (Swap to water to clear 1, dodge roll to clear 2, dodge roll while in water attunement to clear another 1, water 5 to clear 1 more.) Use all of them and use them regularly.

While it may be good advice for someone just starting out or before the necro patch, the condi-heavy meta means you can’t afford to use all of them at once regularly. If you’re getting pressured, you sometimes might want to wait until the bleed stacks ramp up from 5 to 10 stacks for example. Your target might also be waiting for you to blow your cleanses since it’s pretty obvious when they’re used.

Other than that, it’s a nice summary of a build that’s remained relatively static (knock on wood) for the past few months.

To your first part, I had actually never tested it! I just assumed haha. But you are correct on that, and I’ll make sure to edit that out. I still think Air Training is worth taking for the other reasons I mentioned.

To the second part, you’re definitely right. I kind of rushed through that section (as you can probably tell haha.) I’ll go back to it at same point over the next couple days and expand on it.

Thanks for the input!

Aiden Frost
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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

What is sustain burst?

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What is sustain burst?

I guess I meant sustainable health pool. Like you can sustain yourself in a fight. And the damage is high burst. Sorry, probably should’ve clarified that better!

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What is sustain burst?

I guess I meant sustainable health pool. Like you can sustain yourself in a fight. And the damage is high burst. Sorry, probably should’ve clarified that better!

No it is clear! I just often have a problem with these two words being juxtaposed, because there is always a high risk of people understanding “sustained burst” instead of “sustain & burst” if you see what I mean

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Zelyhn.8069

Actually I have one comment: in your “staying alive” paragraph, you seem to omit to talk about the group healing potential of your build.
The increased power of this kind of build (with at least 15 in water and EA) is that you can cleanse and heal allies in a heartbeat. If your team-mates know this and expect you to support them, then you achieve an increased group efficiency.
Maybe you should stress that compared to the other classes, most of our heals are bursty and easy to use. And that, while it is potent in 1v1, it truly shines more in multiple player encounters.

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Posted by: Frostedblaze.9017

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Hey everyone. I improved the weapons and skills section of the guide and talked about some strong and weak points of each of our abilities.

I have some pretty awesome additions to the guide that I’ll be rolling out in the next week or so. I really want to expand on the survivability section and talk about our ability to group heal our party. I might add a section on peeling for teammates. And I definitely want to add a section for tips on 1v1ing some of the more popular builds out there.

If you see any errors in the guide, or if you think there’s something that I need to add, please let me know. As always, you can contact me in game for any questions, tips, etc!

Aiden Frost
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Posted by: Frostedblaze.9017

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Hey everyone, I added two new sections to the guide today. The first section is on securing stomps for you and your teammates.

The second section is a lengthy section on winning duels against other classes and builds. This section should be great for all Eles!

Check it out here: http://intothemists.com/guides/202-aiden_frosts_sd_sustain_burst

Aiden Frost
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