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Asking help (how) regarding an elementalist
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3.2k armor 17HP squishy? OK… the highest backstab ever landed on me was 6-7k before… I feel like rolling an ele.. kitten this is so hot… in just 1 second = 6 skills no channel time? xD wow definitely awesome. I’ll research this later. If any ANET developer wants to help out this happened within 10 minutes of the first post so maybe it’s possible they can look into the person in this guild and with that look and that title to see this. You made ele too strong~!
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This must be either:
1. An ultimate glass cannon with ALL zerker gear and crit dmg buffood.
2. Equipped with valkyrie equipment (crit dmg, power and one defensive stat) and either used arcane power (next 4 hits are critical) or lucky with crit results.
In case of the first option his build must be something like this:
Burst ele that got a lucky firegrab. :P
He’s going to be quite squishy too pull off numbers like that.
3.2k armor 17HP squishy? OK… the highest backstab ever landed on me was 6-7k before… I feel like rolling an ele.. kitten this is so hot… in just 1 second = 6 skills no channel time? xD wow definitely awesome. I’ll research this later. If any ANET developer wants to help out this happened within 10 minutes of the first post so maybe it’s possible they can look into the person in this guild and with that look and that title to see this. You made ele too strong~!
The build works like a theif, you gank and overwhelm your target with CC and damage before they can react. He ran up, hit earth quake, lightning flashed to you during the animation so it hits you, you’re now knocked down and you eat all of his damage.
You wana see some funny ele numbers? Though, these may have been on upleveled or zerkers so its not exactly impressive but still funny.
JQ
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Lightning Flash, Earthquake, Frost Burst, Arcane Wave and Fire Attunement all happened instantly which he followed up with Fire Grab.
What he did was he used Earthquake which has a channel time which in the middle of the channel he used Lightning Flash which is an instant cast and while you were knocked down used Arcane Wave (instatn as well) and then swapped attunements to Fire. This elementalist has at least 15 points in the Fire traitline for the Fire attunement to deal damage to you and has a Sigil of Hydromancy on one of his weapons as he procced the Frost Burst from that sigil (which happened at the same time he swapped to Fire). He then proceeded to use Firegrab (and he had burning on you most likely from the 5 point minor in fire or the 15 point caused burning).
Most of the abilities listed here are instant casts which can be used while channeling (this goes for all classes). The only abilities that aren’t are Earthquake and Firegrab. He just used one of the simple Earthquake + Lightning Flash combo that any elementalist can do with good practice and from traits/sigil procced the Fire Attunement Damage/Frost burst (respectively) and followed with a Firegrab.
And yes, he/she is definitely squishy in order to get those kinds of numbers on Firegrab if you have the stats you mentioned. To get that kind of damage on a Firegrab on an armored target you’re definitely rocking a lot of crit chance and crit damage not to mention a lot of power.
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Thanks so much for the replies! I was wondering what to level next and my ele is 43 now, and I’ve always wanted a glass cannon toon (I have mostly armor heavy characters) for fun. Seeing this as one that could do that for me!!!
Thanks again.
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Fire grab’s scaling on a burning target is 2,5 BTW. That’s the same as heartseeker on a low HP enemy.
Also he either did get a lucky crit or used all his utilities for that burst.
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Attunement swap=weapon swap. I think they already fixed the sigils that didn’t work with attunement swap. So yeah, that’s also possible.
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Thanks!
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Thanks so much for the replies! I was wondering what to level next and my ele is 43 now, and I’ve always wanted a glass cannon toon (I have mostly armor heavy characters) for fun. Seeing this as one that could do that for me!!!
Thanks again.
GC elementalist is hard to play in WvW if that’s what you are after. This elementalist is lucky you didn’t sneeze on him and he caught you by surprise with you not knowing how to react to him. I would never suggest all GC in WvW unless your’e a thief or a mesmer maybe. You lack active defensive capabilites and more rely on mobility and healing(you will have one but not the other really if you go GC like that).
A main issue many elementalists have in WvW is the “requirement” of using points in Arcana and Water (to each his own this point can be argued) but some points in Water/Arcana are a must for boons and healing. Without any armor or health (as you would need to run to get that kind of numbers on an armored target) you run the risk of being completely squishy and killable VERY easily. I’m talking thieves hitting you for 10k with a backstab or more. I would highly recommend you to go for a more “balanced” approach and get some armor and health alongside the crit/crit damage/power. 90% crit damage with 40-50% crit chance with 3.2k attack and 2.4-2.5k armor with 16k HP is great. You wont hit for 12k unless the target is squishy, but you’ll be close to it.
The elementalist isn’t really about that 1 big hit. It’s about chaining together multiple attacks (like what happened to you) for a large amount of damage with a big finish at the end.
For PVE go berserker if your’e comfy with it. I know I am.
Co-Guild Leader of Prime Defense on Sanctum of Rall – www.Primedefense.net
When fighting a pure glass ele:
Keep his health under 90% (20% damage)
Immediately break stun/knockdown (20% damage)
Stay above 33% health (+20% damage)
and dodge when he does this:
we may consider whether or not there is an incarnation of [ele] that would be viable
but balanced. For now, we do not expect it to see serious use.” – ANet
@ OP: This ele probably has a 30/30/0/0/10 build, at least 15 points in fire for having the dmg when swapping attunements. Probably D/D, cause of the frost burst. And probably full berserker. 12k+ dmg on fire grab is only possible if he already had some bufffood and some might stacks, maybe dmg stacking sigill on his weapons.
Point about this: He may deal some good burst dmg, but afterwards he is kittened up. He has only around 10-12k hp, so 2-3 autoattacks and he is dead, he has no healing at all, nor buffs or any defense. If u are alone it becomes hard to face an elementalist like him, unless you pay a lot of attention and avoid his initiation. Don’t forget, that was WvW – in spvp the dmg is a lot lower.
Currently I can’t recommend you the elementalist. In PvE he sucks and in PvP you only have 2 possibilites, either bunker or burst. And as ArenaNet does give a crap about PvE and they want to make the elementalist a having-everything-but-being-bad-at-everything, there will be probably even more nerfs.