Guild Wars 2

What would be the best option DPS wise?
I’ve heard some people say assasins > berserker atm.

Anyone that can help me?

Assassin was and still is crap.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1li5q3/breakeven_points_of_power_vs_precision_mathtable
(Minus 100 to your IG crit damage)
You’ll see that there is NO set up realizable IG where power should be traded for precision/ferocity

Yeah thats what I thought, dunno why that guy made me doubt it. lol

It was marginal before the April 15, so people used to recommend it.

When you factor might and other buffs you actually can get past the point where precision is better than power.

Infact a mesmer top dps build uses various assassin pieces.

P.S. even after feature patch

Before the April 15th patch, for some profession 3 piece of assassins and 3 pieces of beserker was advocate by several ppl. Several DnT ppl were using that or planned on using that. But its not a great idea now with the crit dmg nerf.

I wouldn’t take this table as the absolute optimum, as it ignores “on-crit” procs and how that changes your dps. If you have air/fire/strength sigils, or run fresh air then your precision will have more value for you than listed in this table. Make sure you have “enough” crit. chance to quickly proc those things more reliably (remembering that you have pretty high fury uptime).

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+1, this table obviously doesn’t take this kind of thing into account, it does give the average raw DPS

Is OP refering to PvE, WvW or sPvP? Because in PvE with +60 prec food, berserker armor, persisting flame, Lightning hammer and signet of fire, the ele always has more than100% crit chance. Berserker will always be the best choice for ele. The difference is even more obvious with FGS.

Mattmatt.4962:

Assassin was and still is crap.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1li5q3/breakeven_points_of_power_vs_precision_mathtable
(Minus 100 to your IG crit damage)
You’ll see that there is NO set up realizable IG where power should be traded for precision/ferocity

Sorry, what is “IG” crit damage?

Before saying assassin is crap.
Take build editor:
Add the stacks of might you predict you will have.

Check again the table with the new number.

You will see that full berserker is not Always optimal

For the most part Berserker’s > Assassin’s. Before the May 20 patch, there were a few cases (typically staff builds with scholar’s runes) where Assassin’s > Berserker’s, but even then it’s only by <0.5% in the best case. I haven’t re-run Ele numbers for no-stack situations, but I would imagine it would have further reduced that gap.

If you’re adding in might, you also have to account for fury which is equal to 420 precision. I cannot see how assassin’s this could be worth using on Ele post patch.

BlackBeard.2873:

I wouldn’t take this table as the absolute optimum, as it ignores “on-crit” procs and how that changes your dps. If you have air/fire/strength sigils, or run fresh air then your precision will have more value for you than listed in this table. Make sure you have “enough” crit. chance to quickly proc those things more reliably (remembering that you have pretty high fury uptime).

i see fresh air thrown around a lot, what does the build revolve around? im in the process of leveling the class and didnt quite get it

Lenn.6347:

BlackBeard.2873:

I wouldn’t take this table as the absolute optimum, as it ignores “on-crit” procs and how that changes your dps. If you have air/fire/strength sigils, or run fresh air then your precision will have more value for you than listed in this table. Make sure you have “enough” crit. chance to quickly proc those things more reliably (remembering that you have pretty high fury uptime).

i see fresh air thrown around a lot, what does the build revolve around? im in the process of leveling the class and didnt quite get it

Fresh Air is a grandmaster trait in Air which resets your attunement cooldowns on critical. It allows you to use all of the neat burst-utility skills on Dagger/Focus (or Dagger/Dagger), and then rapidly return to the Air Attunement which has the best auto-attack. Without Fresh Air, you’d be stuck in low-damage attunements after using their burst, and your damage would suffer.

Check out Zelhyn’s sticky above, and DEKeyz’s Dagger/Focus build in her sticky above, for more information.

I wasn’’t really talking about WvW or PvE specifically. Just in general.