Guild Wars 2

For the one running the usual classic 0/10/0/30/30 what will you be changing and why.
Your thoughts are appreciated

Probably by design, the 0/10/0/30/30 spec will be one of the specs impacted the least by the changes because you are spending the 60 water/arcana trait points anyway.

The specs getting harmed are support specs that didn’t pick Cantrip Mastery previously and could get Cleansing Wave at 10 but can’t anymore and any spec that relied on Elemental Attunement but didn’t spend 20+ in Arcana.

Fuzzion.2504:

For the one running the usual classic 0/10/0/30/30 what will you be changing and why.
Your thoughts are appreciated

Good thread.

If staying with standard 0/10/0/30/30 replacing soothing disruption with soothing wave. Will still take cantrip mastery.

Reason I like this is because I won’t feel as forced to blow cantrips with their long cooldowns to emergency wipe condis. If I want to get really beefy against condis then Soothing disruption along with soothing wave. WvW cleansing water has no icd (seems alot of people don’t know this).

The soothing wave trait is really good with cleansing water for another reason. I don’t know much bout engineers. The classes I do play I know their condition builds pretty well. Even full dire necro is going to crit you as long as they have 15 points(fury going in deathshroud) in curses (which most condi necros have). Alot of times when I am on my necro I open with doom in DS which gives me fury and a dhuumfire proc. I will have to look at it but I believe fire is the first condition that procs in this case. So it should get removed immediately when soothing wave procs.

Any good mesmer condition build is going to have precision because the bleed on crit trait for clones is important to keep dps up. It is terrible with out that trait or not having decent crit chance. Any phantasmal fury running mesmer will proc soothing immediately.

Thief will be different since it doesn’t need crits for its conditions. Though if they run thrill of the crime they won’t be able to not crit you after they have stolen. Warrior doesn’t need crits either but most will pop SOR anyway. Condi warrior builds usually go at least 10 in arms(crit tree for longer bleeds)

I plan to try 20/0/0/20/30 with 20 in Fire and the new embers might your looking at +45% burn duration. If you want to add a bit more juice you can run the new Toxic Sharpening stones for additional 10%. Ill try the cleansing flame trait in fire also. Windborne dagger with renewing stamina to help with mobility.

Mmm any thing I try that doesn’t have zeyphy’r boon will be with windborne daggers and renewing stamina to include anything I run in earth like 20 earth.

For the most part standard setup will have soothing wave with cantrip mastery and cleansing water.

oZii.2864:

Fuzzion.2504:

For the one running the usual classic 0/10/0/30/30 what will you be changing and why.
Your thoughts are appreciated

WvW cleansing water has no icd (seems alot of people don’t know this).

Never knew that. . .

PvE 0/20/0/20/30 more damage (since they nerfed the damage on boon)
WWW 0/10/10/20/30 (more protection)

For me, nothing will change with my 0/10/0/30/30 build if I use my twin daggers.

Currently, I trait Bolt to the Heart, Soothing Disruption, Cleansing Wave, Cantrip Mastery, Elemental Attunement, Renewing Stamina and Evasive Arcana.

Post patch, I move Cantrip Mastery to adept, Cleansing Wave and Soothing Disruption take up my master and grandmaster slots. Elemental Attunement goes to master and Renewing Stamina goes to adept.

So in short, no buff. Instead, there is a slight nerf if I want to get pedantic about it. Instead of a 60% attunement recharge for investing 30 points in Arcane, I now only get 30% attunement recharge.

PS. I used to run 0/10/10/20/30 on weeks when the matchup are against weaker servers and I don’t need as much survivability. On this build, I go with Cleansing Wave and Soothing Disruption. It will no longer be possible post patch. Need to add that I only care about builds in wvw. I don’t really care about builds in pve since anything works in pve. I don’t care for spvp.

I was running 0/0/20/20/30, but I’l probably be switching to x/x/x/30/30 again to test out soothing mist and cleansing water. Cleansing water is probably almost as good against conditions as diamond skin, but it doesn’t require you to give up a 2k heal every 10 secs to get. If soothing mist ends up being much worse than soothing disruption however, it will end up a net nerf since you can no longer take soothing disruption, cleansing wave, and cleansing water.

The remaining points will either go in fire or earth. As a condition ele, I don’t know if I would rather have extended burning, earth’s embrace, or cleansing fire. Probably earth’s embrace.

All the answers are good. I believe the consensus is that the classic dnd ele will most likely remain the same.