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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

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Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJBLhdygI04AW0A4zAwhJWMAM3SbqN2GEAWAHgiJZW4LA-T5gZABHu/AePAAAKDAA

After a while, I tried different build with mender, magi (not enough damage) and sage.

I was kinda surprise by sage and tried to go with Rabid (toughness to help versus power based heavy comp, can switch wanderer if only 1 show up).

Aura helps for our sustain (regen + vigor + heals) even if earth or air is not taken.

Fire trait line give a fire aura each time we enter into fire and Arcane trait line, reduce the waiting time between each fire aura. More it’s stacking Might like crazy, so burn going for 5k tick are real.

I did all out Fire + Earth + Tempest first with Balthazar amulet, but the surv was not really there.

So, with Arcana I did tweak the arcane recharges and now the heals with blast are real.

Then switching to radiance gave me swiftness + retals when need. The vitality on the amulet give more room to breathe… but well, it’s still a casual builds.

Not sure if some main ele would like to experiment into that direction, but I find it quite fun and more effective than burn guard to stack and re-apply burns after cleanses….

For mobility dagger is probably better, the condition pressure is a bit less. On the other hand, playing scepter is something new (casual) to have fun with.

The stunbreak over 60 sec timer, is not great. I tried Gale, but this is a comp call.

Focus could help more versus condis, but I find that rabid toughness can take some beating so warhorn could be used without being killed on the spot.

Any thoughts?

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

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1v1 was hard to completed.

I did use the scavenger amulet and it’s way better to stack burns to 5k and live longer.

I would like to optmized that casual builds. It’s fun to play ELE with unusual weapons/traits/skills. So people don’t know what to expect from you!

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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kitten when people start to develop what i do since last summer ^^.
Fire earth arcance with scepter and brilliance + shield was what i regulary played before hot in WvW :-). This build type does significant damage. But you melt in any teamfight whith a necro targeting you ;-). Also you won´t stand to much condies so always use generosity sigil which is a slight help. Next weaknes is low stunbreaks. A well played CC warrior kills you …
So yes i main ele with this kind of builds since over a year and it works for me. But it has weaknesses. The good thing it´s quite OK against many power builds including thiefs.
In PvP i sometimes pick viper amulet with it and can run havoc against random groups. It´s very suceptible to focus fire but if oponent is uncoordianted they are toast.
Don´t think it is good enough for high level teamfights but for me it´s fun to play.

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Posted by: Ranael.6423

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Wouldn’t arcane power instead of the glyph add a bit in term of burst damage and control?
I find the glyph too unreliable and I am a bit biased by my liking of arcane power+elemental surge combo so I am not sure if this would be a better solution.
Yet you’d lose a stun breaker…

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

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kitten when people start to develop what i do since last summer ^^.
Fire earth arcance with scepter and brilliance + shield was what i regulary played before hot in WvW :-). This build type does significant damage. But you melt in any teamfight whith a necro targeting you ;-). Also you won´t stand to much condies so always use generosity sigil which is a slight help. Next weaknes is low stunbreaks. A well played CC warrior kills you …
So yes i main ele with this kind of builds since over a year and it works for me. But it has weaknesses. The good thing it´s quite OK against many power builds including thiefs.
In PvP i sometimes pick viper amulet with it and can run havoc against random groups. It´s very suceptible to focus fire but if oponent is uncoordianted they are toast.
Don´t think it is good enough for high level teamfights but for me it´s fun to play.

Great please, improve my build.

Ditching tempest for Earth and Sigil of Generosity for…?

Spvp please.

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Wouldn’t arcane power instead of the glyph add a bit in term of burst damage and control?
I find the glyph too unreliable and I am a bit biased by my liking of arcane power+elemental surge combo so I am not sure if this would be a better solution.
Yet you’d lose a stun breaker…

The glyph burn is stacking so well. I tried different thing on that slot, and I am not sure. Using glyph when enemy is below 50% after some fighting, will make your opponent panic on burns cause he wasted his cleanses at that point.

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Posted by: Alekt.5803

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First, I am guessing that this is a sPvP build?

Good step in that condition build is the Glyph of Elemental Power. But, it’s the choice of GM and heal that worries me. I would go for Evasive Arcana and Glyph of Elemental Harmony instead. I’d consider Elemental Contingency + Renewing Stamina + Latent Stamina combo too for active damage mitigation.

But, that’s only my way of doing things since I value Air (L-Rod) above Fire for a condition build.

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Posted by: Karsus.1842

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

again the problem is spvp, with that build you would be annihilated, Outside spvp and 1v1 we have a lot of diversity though, and that build looks a bit o fun


“Trying to please everyone would not only be challenging
but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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@Karsus. yes this is a lot of fun. I tested a bit similar. But i would recomend tempestous aria and gale song and then use flash freeze or aftershok instead of fire signet depending on oposing team and I prefer doom sigil instead of purity.
and then don´t underestimate the power of this build in 1:1 …. Main issue will be power focus fire in sPvP with chain CC. Condis will also bring you down after a while, but you can kill faster very often :-).

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Posted by: Karsus.1842

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@Karsus. yes this is a lot of fun. I tested a bit similar. But i would recomend tempestous aria and gale song and then use flash freeze or aftershok instead of fire signet depending on oposing team and I prefer doom sigil instead of purity.
and then don´t underestimate the power of this build in 1:1 …. Main issue will be power focus fire in sPvP with chain CC. Condis will also bring you down after a while, but you can kill faster very often :-).

@Wolfric. I agree with your assessment of this build’s abilities in 1:1. I will be trying out some of your suggestions especially Gale song, CC is a real pain.

As for fire signet, I use that as my opening attack, big range, big burn damage and blind. I do this in order to force my opponent to quickly use up a condi cleanse and of course damage.

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Posted by: Supreme.3164

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No meant to be that guy but…anything half way decent will outsustain this build with zero problems, anything running meta build ofc

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Posted by: Zicarous.2134

Zicarous.2134

seems few trying out condi ele heres mine similar to others but i prefer my varient

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJBLhdSfJ0fJW0A4gJwhJW2AMiVwFYE4uX/rD2hHQA4CC-TJRHABA8AAC4EAs++DIVGAA

promotes masive condi and normal dmg and perma vigor, regen and protection with almost perma might (it is perma 10+ stacks in battle) with some great support aspects!

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Posted by: soulknight.9620

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Guys, the problem with ele condi builds is limited types of condi you can put – bleed/burn + mb something from sigils. You do realise that it doesnt matter of you have 1 stack of burn or 20 stacks of burn on a target, cause if he is running a decent build he can cleanse either 1 stack or 20 stacks with 1 condi clear.
The power of condi classes is cause they have 4+ condi types and you need to waste your condi clear do get 1-2 condi off of you (some skill have more but w.e.). Then they reapply them and so on.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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Ups my hybrid ele pulls of. burn, bleed , torment, cripple, chill, blind, weakness, vulnerability and imobilize …. sometimes +poision when i use doom sigil … would be stupid to play a pure “Burn” ele outside PvE.

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Posted by: Zicarous.2134

Zicarous.2134

going to share your build wolf

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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:-)

My current WvW Build.
Food varies (i like prilkly pear pie) but i use precision oil (or toxic version) 99%.
The second sigil can be blood or doom instead of generosity but with all the condies flying …
I also use FSG often. Its a great tool, but the high CD and that i can´t escape well even with it makes me build for win or die using rebound.
Equipement might look strange but i toyed around a lot to fit what is most compftable for me and well rounded.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJArdnUMA9XiVYCOOAcYilNAb4BEAugu31+6htINuBvBA-TVCZAB69AAAQZgn6BMQpHn7P4qaF+oqSHnAAXUCGAABYn1ZAc0je0je0j2115O35O3ZpA6bBA-w

I have a very hard time fighing warriors because i can´t damage them enough. The build is not to hitting hard enough to fight heavy sustain. Those fight tend to be endless. I regulary beat thiefs with it (but they can usualy disengage)
And don´t underestimate it´s boonspam. People tend to forget old arcane capabilities. I lack the perma vigor (phönix=vigor) but regen and protection uptime is high.
I have a variant using arane utilities i would like to play but i should change the rune for it and well it was already anoying to get one durability set for me :-)
The thing this build lacks most are gap closers or escape tools. Of course you can pick flash + FSG.

PvP is diffrent. I currently go for sage + leadership rune
High ferocity uptime gives over 30% crit rate which is enough. The damage from this build is noticeable. Boons as usual also for the team.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJArdnMIC9Xi9MAOOAcYilNArINuBrBDPgAwF0dv+XPsA-TJBBQBA4EAAxyA9b/Bt9AAAA

Arguable it those sigils are realy a good choice. Doom + Leeching is what i also use instead. But i am not shure if those exra crit´s might do better. Still testing.
If you face all condie swap to diamond skin. I like the build and i am quite shure it does much more damage then those menders …

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Posted by: Jourdelune.7456

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Thank you guyz for all those new options. I am casually playing condi ele in unranked and found it quite “fun”.

My team mate are like, WTH that guy is laughing out loud around…

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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Its funny and i like the looks when they die with a WTF obove their head. In WvW they come back adapting their build often which gets harder of course. It quite good for casual play.

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Its funny and i like the looks when they die with a WTF obove their head. In WvW they come back adapting their build often which gets harder of course. It quite good for casual play.

I really like the fact that we can burst either burn or bleed. Fire attunement on cooldown, the bleed waves is coming from earth… Earth on Cd… Fire is up again!

I mostly never go into Lightning with my build, except when i need the blinds. but I play scepter/warhorn.

:)

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