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Posted by: Fortus.6175

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Im about to run 30/10/30/0/0 or something of the sort on my ele, focusing on lava axe and icebow, want to see how power stacking + condition damage + condition duration works, both axe and bow provide burns and bleed, also might stacking and condition duration. Earth into damage 10% more damage if melee, also want to get some fury with fire finishers, which is now viable with axe. I will let you guys know, soldier first, then valkirie.

Any other suggestions? Shield perhaps could fit there, hammer i dont see it happening though, the melee chain is no something I like too much, though really strong.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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you gonna get pooped on.


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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

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frost bow is NOT for condo stacking. the best you’ll get is a decent amount of +x% chill duration from frost bow. But just don’t even go like that. Frownyclown is right. You’ll get curb-stomped then rofl-stomped and then pooped on

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

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I decided to switch air to water, for 20% more damage on vulnerability, something that isnt hard to achieve with icebow. Icestorm does give bleed stacks though, and I get some extra toughness while channeling. Im well aware I will suck, and I will get melted, but hey, it is worth a try!

edit: unfortunately Im lagging terribly bad, so I wont be ablke to test this live. CAn someone give it a try? Soldier amulet !

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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

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dont use that trait with icebow… Piercing shards, imo, is more for like a zerker-spike burst dmg build

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Posted by: ARM.3912

ARM.3912

you gonna get pooped on.

This sums up any build that relies on conjures… and to a lesser degree staff… or daggers… or focus… or scepter… or any mixture of things put into the dead elementalist class…

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

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Having some issues with sustain, got acceptable damage, but all damage sticks to me, not even using signet of healing

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Posted by: Axelifus.3269

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Used icebow 5 yet? I got a few unjustified misses because of range when people move around too much.

They were within the 900 radius however it fizzled. (No stability, no evasion, no block.)

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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Used icebow 5 yet? I got a few unjustified misses because of range when people move around too much.

They were within the 900 radius however it fizzled. (No stability, no evasion, no block.)

I find it works best against people coming straight towards you. Usually hits them right as they are about to land a hit on you.


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Posted by: Avead.5760

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Used icebow 5 yet? I got a few unjustified misses because of range when people move around too much.

They were within the 900 radius however it fizzled. (No stability, no evasion, no block.)

Its just too slow..projectiles in gw2 dont home to the target so if you activate them and then the enemy changes direction the game will throw them at the wrong way.
For some reason they havent given a unique message to this kind of miss so you get random “obstructed” or “out of range” when neither of them are actually true

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

yep, its failing

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

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I wouldn’t build around conjures, but instead take them if there is a specific utility that you want and that complements your playstyle. Conjures work best when used, then dropped.

Here are my recommendations for use:

Frost bow: best for a ranged nuker role (supplement to staff). Deep Freeze can sometimes land in a group-fight if it goes unnoticed, and is a very HARD cc (not stun-breakable). #4 is an even better aoe nuke than meteor shower, and frost-fan is great if you get in point-blank and hit all 7 on one target (its a quick little spike).

Lava axe: mobility or ranged kiting if you are d/d. You can do some fun things as the axes can actually be thrown backwards while running (a la engie nades) to keep up might and kite like a boss. You can get away quite easily with some camera tricks.

Earth shield: I wouldn’t use this in wvw unless you want to pull people off of a tower or coordinate with a group to use the pull for a huge area nuke.

Lightning hammer: I wouldn’t use this in wvw, it is still more of a pve weapon. You could use it for a zerker build or something, but you are still better off with your weapon skills in most situations than using this AGAINST players. Awesome against pve mobs.