Earth's Embrace Cantrip
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.
so in short its kinda a bug that will be fixed.
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.so in short its kinda a bug that will be fixed.
Short answer: no
Long answer: The trait “cantrip mastery” reduces the recharge of your cantrip utilities and not of your traits, even if they are closely related to a cantrip. This means you can equip a cantrip on your utility skill bar (skill 7, 8, 9) and their recharge is properly reduced. It would be breaking the rule if cantrip mastery would reduce the cooldown of the “earths embrace” trait because that would be something no other profession gets. For example: On a warrior the trait “lung capacity” reduces the cooldown of shouts by 20% and the trait “Shrug it off” automatically casts the shout “shake it off” when there is a certain number of conditions on you. But as “shrug it off” is a trait its cooldown is NOT affected by “lung capacity”.
Abaddon’s Mouth (DE)
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.so in short its kinda a bug that will be fixed.
Short answer: no
Long answer: The trait “cantrip mastery” reduces the recharge of your cantrip utilities and not of your traits, even if they are closely related to a cantrip. This means you can equip a cantrip on your utility skill bar (skill 7, 8, 9) and their recharge is properly reduced. It would be breaking the rule if cantrip mastery would reduce the cooldown of the “earths embrace” trait because that would be something no other profession gets. For example: On a warrior the trait “lung capacity” reduces the cooldown of shouts by 20% and the trait “Shrug it off” automatically casts the shout “shake it off” when there is a certain number of conditions on you. But as “shrug it off” is a trait its cooldown is NOT affected by “lung capacity”.
Nope. Every trait that reduces utility cooldowns also reduces cooldown of those traited procs. All but a few bugs, like armor of earth.
I command you to be AWESOME.
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.so in short its kinda a bug that will be fixed.
Short answer: no
Long answer: The trait “cantrip mastery” reduces the recharge of your cantrip utilities and not of your traits, even if they are closely related to a cantrip. This means you can equip a cantrip on your utility skill bar (skill 7, 8, 9) and their recharge is properly reduced. It would be breaking the rule if cantrip mastery would reduce the cooldown of the “earths embrace” trait because that would be something no other profession gets. For example: On a warrior the trait “lung capacity” reduces the cooldown of shouts by 20% and the trait “Shrug it off” automatically casts the shout “shake it off” when there is a certain number of conditions on you. But as “shrug it off” is a trait its cooldown is NOT affected by “lung capacity”.
Nope. Every trait that reduces utility cooldowns also reduces cooldown of those traited procs. All but a few bugs, like armor of earth.
Really? Because that cooldown reduction is not reflected in the trait tooltips (I just tested this on my warrior with lung capacity and shrug it off). Also, guild wiki does not list that they are working together (It does list vigorous shouts, but that is something different). I couldn’t find anything about this with a quick google search either.
I am always eager to learn, so can you please give me a link where you got that knowledge from?
Abaddon’s Mouth (DE)
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.so in short its kinda a bug that will be fixed.
Short answer: no
Long answer: The trait “cantrip mastery” reduces the recharge of your cantrip utilities and not of your traits, even if they are closely related to a cantrip. This means you can equip a cantrip on your utility skill bar (skill 7, 8, 9) and their recharge is properly reduced. It would be breaking the rule if cantrip mastery would reduce the cooldown of the “earths embrace” trait because that would be something no other profession gets. For example: On a warrior the trait “lung capacity” reduces the cooldown of shouts by 20% and the trait “Shrug it off” automatically casts the shout “shake it off” when there is a certain number of conditions on you. But as “shrug it off” is a trait its cooldown is NOT affected by “lung capacity”.
Nope. Every trait that reduces utility cooldowns also reduces cooldown of those traited procs. All but a few bugs, like armor of earth.
Really? Because that cooldown reduction is not reflected in the trait tooltips (I just tested this on my warrior with lung capacity and shrug it off). Also, guild wiki does not list that they are working together (It does list vigorous shouts, but that is something different). I couldn’t find anything about this with a quick google search either.
I am always eager to learn, so can you please give me a link where you got that knowledge from?
Dude just look ingame. Burning fire gets reduced by cantrip mastery. Lots of similar traits on other classes work the same.
I command you to be AWESOME.
I am not sure if any 1 noticed it but this the Earth Armor that is triggered from “Earth Embrace” has a Cooldown of 90 secs still when i have “Cantrip mastery”.
where as “Burning Fire” has its Cooldown reduced.
any1 know the reason why?
I believe at some point, traits that mimicked utilities were not affected by traits that affected utilities until recently, but they have started to change this in favor of allowing traits to affect utility effects as well.
I think I read that somewhere anyway.so in short its kinda a bug that will be fixed.
Short answer: no
Long answer: The trait “cantrip mastery” reduces the recharge of your cantrip utilities and not of your traits, even if they are closely related to a cantrip. This means you can equip a cantrip on your utility skill bar (skill 7, 8, 9) and their recharge is properly reduced. It would be breaking the rule if cantrip mastery would reduce the cooldown of the “earths embrace” trait because that would be something no other profession gets. For example: On a warrior the trait “lung capacity” reduces the cooldown of shouts by 20% and the trait “Shrug it off” automatically casts the shout “shake it off” when there is a certain number of conditions on you. But as “shrug it off” is a trait its cooldown is NOT affected by “lung capacity”.
Nope. Every trait that reduces utility cooldowns also reduces cooldown of those traited procs. All but a few bugs, like armor of earth.
Really? Because that cooldown reduction is not reflected in the trait tooltips (I just tested this on my warrior with lung capacity and shrug it off). Also, guild wiki does not list that they are working together (It does list vigorous shouts, but that is something different). I couldn’t find anything about this with a quick google search either.
I am always eager to learn, so can you please give me a link where you got that knowledge from?
Dude just look ingame. Burning fire gets reduced by cantrip mastery. Lots of similar traits on other classes work the same.
They only introduced the idea of traits reducing other trait such as cantrip mastery with the new burning fire trait in the Dec 10. patch. But they are looking to continue this by making all old trait be affect by that also. Example sometime in the future they will make earth embrace trait be affected by cantrip mastery trait. They plan to do this will all professions. Its not a bug they just haven’t implemented it yet
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well I am a bit surprised Anet fixed this promptly. if only Lingering Elements? took this long to fix.
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Arcane Wave: This skill is no longer ground-targeted while underwater and will now activate the area effect on the targeted enemy.
Earth’s Embrace: Fixed this trait to properly have reduced recharge when traited with Cantrip Mastery.
And they’re going to fix Arcane Mastery in the future too, so it can work with final shielding and arcane retribution.
I’m betting 5 dollars that when armor of earth gets the reduced cooldown to 75 seconds (and therefore 60 seconds with cantrip mastery) in the next feature patch, earth’s embrace will still have 75 seconds cooldown even with cantrip mastery.
I command you to be AWESOME.