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Posted by: Shinji.2063

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So after watching the stream pretty much all ele specs are going to have like a 0% chance against a reaper. You are basically locked out of attunement swapping and an ele that cant swap is as good as dead. Kinda harsh that we are the only class that can have our class mechanic countered to such a degree.

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Posted by: dietzero.3514

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Hope they remove Chill working on Attunements.

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Posted by: Tei.1704

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Every elementalist weapon outranges reaper attacks. Ele can counter reapers with snares and kiting. Burning precision and blinding ashes will counter reapers. You can prevent chill pretty easily and remove it when it is applied. The strongest chill reapers have will be a trait necros already have, that free unavoidable spinal shivers.

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Posted by: Silv.9207

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Ranged damage (or more “ranged” than reaper), a large ability to clean conditions, very good movement skills. no morefight against a ranged DS AA but only against a melee RS AA, good CC skills, blind and invulnerability skills. Why are feared by the reaper?
A necro can kill a ele because with the DS AA can hit hard and ranged. If it become melee you have no problems to stay away and wait for the right moment and all the skills of the RS can be easy to avoid (only the AA is fast and the movement skill isn’t a real movement skill because the “dash” it give is a slow dash that you can outrun with swiftness and easy to see and dodge/blind/CC/activa a immunity, the same for all the other skills).

I think that the ele have already a good counter game for the reaper specializzation (and we have always to see how good is the ele specializzation!)

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Posted by: xDudisx.5914

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I don’t see a reaper been stronger than the traditional fearmancer.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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Reaper can be easily kited. On top of that, I suspect Ele will get counters for tanky professions and more kiting options.

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Posted by: dietzero.3514

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Tempest will be getting sword, most likely. Hard to kite with that.

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Posted by: Aktium.9506

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Tempest will be getting sword, most likely. Hard to kite with that.

Sword could by all means be a long range weapon for Ele. It’s magic, ain’t gotta explain kitten.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

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Tempest will be getting sword, most likely. Hard to kite with that.

Sword could by all means be a long range weapon for Ele. It’s magic, ain’t gotta explain kitten.

Hopefully sword for ele is 1900 range pewpew that does 18k damage rolling your face on the keyboard, like the ranger.

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Posted by: Aktium.9506

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1900 range pewpew that does 18k damage rolling your face on the keyboard, like the ranger.

That’s nonsense. I’ve never hit for more than 13k + AirFire procc with Rapid Fire in PvP

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Posted by: Gokil.2543

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Tempest will be getting sword, most likely. Hard to kite with that.

Sword is always a positioning-centered weapon. Across all professions.

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Posted by: Vinteros Asteano.1209

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1900 range pewpew that does 18k damage rolling your face on the keyboard, like the ranger.

That’s nonsense. I’ve never hit for more than 13k + AirFire procc with Rapid Fire in PvP

I don’t think I’ve ever hit 13k in pvp…I might have a 5 digit flame grab screenshot somewhere though (it’s on a troll 6/6/0/0/2 D/D build).

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Posted by: Aerathnor.8305

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1900 range pewpew that does 18k damage rolling your face on the keyboard, like the ranger.

That’s nonsense. I’ve never hit for more than 13k + AirFire procc with Rapid Fire in PvP

I don’t think I’ve ever hit 13k in pvp…I might have a 5 digit flame grab screenshot somewhere though (it’s on a troll 6/6/0/0/2 D/D build).

I’ve tried that, it hurts a lot on both ends.

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Posted by: Gokil.2543

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1900 range pewpew that does 18k damage rolling your face on the keyboard, like the ranger.

That’s nonsense. I’ve never hit for more than 13k + AirFire procc with Rapid Fire in PvP

I don’t think I’ve ever hit 13k in pvp…I might have a 5 digit flame grab screenshot somewhere though (it’s on a troll 6/6/0/0/2 D/D build).

http://imgur.com/k3Lru3E

Let’s just say that was a bad day to be the light golem.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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Meh, target golems always have bad days.

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

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Good that ele finally has counters
But probably only works on D/D because they’re mostly melee.

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Posted by: Mattmatt.4962

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Good that ele finally has counters

Yeah, cause auto spinal shiver necro – 6K AA isnt a counter, SD thief doesnt have to spamm 2 to rip appart all your boon while evading everything, ranger cant kite you to death with trap and high chill uptime ,etc.
;)

Some people should just never talk XD
By the way, rock paper scissor is the worst way to balance a game … just saying.

About reaper:
I think it will be a nice counter but not an heavy one.

Tempest seems made careful not to make ele better in any way, since that would be bad

It does the job well :-)

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

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Didnt anyone get the memo? The ele is going to become the most powerful aura bot in game.

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

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Good that ele finally has counters

Yeah, cause auto spinal shiver necro – 6K AA isnt a counter, SD thief doesnt have to spamm 2 to rip appart all your boon while evading everything, ranger cant kite you to death with trap and high chill uptime ,etc.
;)

Some people should just never talk XD
By the way, rock paper scissor is the worst way to balance a game … just saying.

About reaper:
I think it will be a nice counter but not an heavy one.

Lol, surprised someone saying ranger/ necro/ thief is actually celestial Ele’s “counters”
Good one.

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Posted by: Valento.9852

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Will eles have to spec into tempest to deal with reapers? Am I missing something?

Attempts at ele specs:
Shaman
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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Will eles have to spec into tempest to deal with reapers? Am I missing something?

Erm… Opposite. Assuming the tempest weapon is sword and melee the general thought was all current eles will be fine against them, only a melee Ele might have some real issues. But even then, an elite specialization doesn’t automatically equate to having to use the unlocked weapon.

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