Ele is a hard class to play

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Posted by: Oxidia.8103

Oxidia.8103

I whish more people would know this. I just got a whisp from a veteran player when i finished TA with him who asked me why is his stealth elixir is unblastable. I play s/f and start to explain to him how ele blasting works and how much calculation it put into blasting and stacking might. We basicly have to know every other classes aoe to be able to blast right and know when to blast. Not to mention blast and do decent dmg in the same time. Funny how eles are labled as keybord faceroll classes.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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I whish more people would know this. I just got a whisp from a veteran player when i finished TA with him who asked me why is his stealth elixir is unblastable. I play s/f and start to explain to him how ele blasting works and how much calculation it put into blasting and stacking might. We basicly have to know every other classes aoe to be able to blast right and know when to blast. Not to mention blast and do decent dmg in the same time. Funny how eles are labled as keybord faceroll classes.

Its easy to pick up once you understand the might stacking rotation. Average eles are still pretty hard to kill in pvp. The good ones are monsters though.


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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

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I think he’s talking about PvE. Once you know the class and boss mechanics, it’s pretty comfortable to play as an ele. Biggest damage? Check. Most utilities? Check. Solo class? Check. Evasiveness? Check.

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

no he’s talking about pvp…
pve is pretty much irrelevant since each class can do fairly well alone
But OP, I get what you mean, however I think knowing the other class is mandatory to consider yourself as a good player no matter the class you play. What makes ele easy, though, is the current cele meta, since all a player has to know is the rotations to do well and be quite hard to kill, but give a cele ele in the hand of a master and you’ve got a monster coming up. The stats the cele ele possess gives a lot of room for mistakes while dealing substantial amount of damage

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

no he’s talking about pvp…
pve is pretty much irrelevant since each class can do fairly well alone
But OP, I get what you mean, however I think knowing the other class is mandatory to consider yourself as a good player no matter the class you play. What makes ele easy, though, is the current cele meta, since all a player has to know is the rotations to do well and be quite hard to kill, but give a cele ele in the hand of a master and you’ve got a monster coming up. The stats the cele ele possess gives a lot of room for mistakes while dealing substantial amount of damage

… Didn’t he say he ws doing TA and the thief complained he wasn’t helpiing blast for stealth?

That’s PVE…

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Posted by: Zention.1849

Zention.1849

Okay, two things:
This post was about PvE not PvP, I think…

If you want to give great support and be considered helpful – yes you should know all the class’ rotations. So you know when to cast which skill.
In most pug runs it’s best to swap weapons as the occasion requires. So I wouldn’t stay D/F or whatsoever, switch weapons when out of combat.

You can only cast Stealth up to 13 sec or so. Standing around ’till everyone has blasted the smoke field is well – useless.

PS: Eventually you will get used to blasting / casting which skill when.

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Posted by: Oxidia.8103

Oxidia.8103

Not a thief, since when thief throws elixirs?

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Not a thief, since when thief throws elixirs?

Ahh, well… then we have some major confusion either way.

I assumed that was just misspeaking.

You can’t blast an Engi Elixer, their Throw Elixer S will stealth for 5s, but there is no smoke field. Their Smoke Bomb however creates a smoke field which you can toss blasts into for stealth.

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Posted by: Harny.6012

Harny.6012

I never heard anyone saying ele is a keyboard faceroll class.
It’s pretty complex and very fun to play in a decent group.
Full zerk ele in bad pug runs is a nightmare for me though.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Well staff ele is kinda faceroll, but if you want to be a buffslave with damage on lightning hammer, you have to know much more about the game. Imo, godlike is when you use SFDD to buff and swap to staff before fight for max damage and 25 stacks might and 1:30 fury for everyone.

I play engi and mes and they are pretty much the same when it’s about blast finishers and how they work. What I really can’t understand is why dragon tooth and metor have no ground targeting … that’s just disgusting for buffing, especially in caves and buildings with multiple floors …

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Posted by: Simon.3794

Simon.3794

ermmm…you do know that…almost every classes have a type of finisher combo ability right?

you think that warriors, engis w/e didn’t need to help for blasting thieves smoke field?

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Posted by: Ezeriel.9574

Ezeriel.9574

I’m not sure why everyone is talking about thieves, they can blast their own stupid smoke fields, the OP was talking about an engi smoke field from an elixir, and I would have no idea an engi doing that….

…but more to the point ele is a very hard class to play and very unforgiving if you make a mistake.

And more than that it’s just not very fun to play. It’s too complex and too rotation heavy. That is unless you have a controller or keyboard that you can program macros into.

I guess you could keybind so that you press 123456 and splatter stuff…. but that doesn’t sound all that fun either…

The only way to play the engineer is to exploit it.
Playing the engineer “as intended” is simply not viable.

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Posted by: unlucky.9285

unlucky.9285

no ele like all classes = learn rotation then think you are good…. its all i see every time i fight an ele the same thing over and over the only dif from ele to the other classes is you get more bang out of it

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Posted by: Swimsasa Stoon.8936

Swimsasa Stoon.8936

Sure elementalist is hard but only until you learn to understand each of the skills available to you. Learning a new weapon set takes way more time with elementalist than any other profession but once you do it is a lot of fun.
Though the effort vs. reward is kinda askew compared to the other professions which you can be decent at within a mere 50 hours of gameplay.