Guild Wars 2

Uh huh ….
So what’s next ? i don’t get it.

Since it requires you to burn, its not oneshot.

Nice! I had a similar experience the other day. I’m not sure how it happened but my churning earth hit 13k. I would die if anyone sneezed in my direction, though. Haha

I was dueling a thief in WvW on my staff ele (i was built for siege battle at the time and was just running dolys. I held him off for about 1.5min using my static field and unstable ground plus lava font, meteor shower and burning retreat. During the entire battle I probably hit him for 30k damage, but every time he was hit and got to like half health he would stealth away and come back at full health and I would just barely dodge his backstab macro (I say macro because when he finally hit me 5 of his skills went off at once and I was insta-downed and then used mist form to jump off a cliff in my downed state just so he couldn’t use his finisher, which he tried to do using stealth). Eles need way more damage to compensate for their lack of survivability and escapes, it would only be fair.

My friend testing his backstab on my glass ele build:
http://i.imgur.com/gm9iVsh.jpg

Done that very rewarding. Got so frustrated by thieves stalking me. Went full damage fire signet and arcane power.

The problem was. If I missed my burst I would go to the graveyard. If thief missed his He would just stealth. I have tried thief sporadicaly I would say they are as squish as us. But they can keep pressure we can’t because is on 45sec cd.

Magic Poof is an amazing name! Kudos to your friend!

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Decear.7089:

My friend testing his backstab on my glass ele build:
http://i.imgur.com/gm9iVsh.jpg

24k? wtf… that was at launch or what lol the highest I ever done was 14k in spvp.

Screen was taken at Spirit Watch so I doubt it.

12k is a bit low, but I guess you can’t get as high in sPvP as you can elsewhere.

Never seen a 24k backstab before though.

Yes, elementalist is terribly balanced right now due to damage not compensating for the crap survivability we get. Unlikely ArenaNet will do anything, though. If there actually is a balance team, it’s pretty obvious they don’t care about eles.

ceol.9175:

Yes, elementalist is terribly balanced right now due to damage not compensating for the crap survivability we get. Unlikely ArenaNet will do anything, though. If there actually is a balance team, it’s pretty obvious they don’t care about eles.

I think our damage does compensate for our lack of survivality. The problems is the cd. Landing a full burst combo can be devastating. I have one shot players without stun breakers.

But then you realize people with half brain cell knows that after the updraft comes the pain. And since is on a 40cd(32 traited). I can’t survive that long. I would be happy if they make earthquake a 3-4sec knockdown. Or a launch just like updraft.

elprimo.4398:

I think our damage does compensate for our lack of survivality. The problems is the cd. Landing a full burst combo can be devastating. I have one shot players without stun breakers.

But then you realize people with half brain cell knows that after the updraft comes the pain. And since is on a 40cd(32 traited). I can’t survive that long. I would be happy if they make earthquake a 3-4sec knockdown. Or a launch just like updraft.

I think that’s the biggest issue. Elementalist requires these long combos and perfect rotations just to do the same amount of damage as a burst thief or mesmer, and we have worse survivability. Essentially, we require far more skill in order to play at the same level as other classes that require a minimal amount of skill. That would be fine if we got something out of it, like our potential damage was higher but it took more skill, but to invest all that practice and work just to be as good as every other class… It’s stupid.

I even started running naked on sPvP. I’m a glass cannon anyway so kitten it. Funny thing is nothing changes. Maybe losing those 12% crit dmg from divinity runes. But I can still one shot people on a full combo. It’s funny because it kittens up some players, kittens them up into mindlessly trying to one shot you. And thats when you surprise them with the wombo combo.

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Decear.7089:

My friend testing his backstab on my glass ele build:
http://i.imgur.com/gm9iVsh.jpg

24k? wtf… that was at launch or what lol the highest I ever done was 14k in spvp.

For a thief, you can do better in spvp. Ele actually has pretty average damage in spvp. Look at what a warrior can do in one shot too. We shouldn’t complain about ele damage. That skill has a 45 seconds cooldown and a tiny hitbox (about half the cleave size of a backstab, and a huge delay before cast).

It’s funny, because ele’s most viable build (huge burst) is essentially a warrior troll build.
Anybody see the killshot builds, that basically do ele burst but in a single projectile that can be used once every 10ish seconds?
Takes a bit longer if you are noticed and is a bit less damage, but it’s all one hit and happens every few seconds as opposed to once a minute, on a super tanky class.

Yup Thief can hit for the same or higher with backstab and has stealth to get away. Warrior can hit for much higher with killshot or eviscrate and still be pretty tanky with higher armor/health and healing singet. A mesmer combo can dish out insane damage as well and they also have stealth and clones to help survive.

Anet just seems to refuse to understand that ele has no real class mechanic to help them out. I don’t count attunement swapping as a mechanic. Its just another set of cooldowns. Attunement swapping doesn’t really help the ele survive at all. Almost all ele’s use cantrip utilites cus they are like the only thing ele has to help them survive a little bit. Ele gets these extra heals like trident or cleansing wave but they are just really small heals that any class can match or beat. Also the ele heal slot skills themselves are awful.

magic poof hits you with dragon’s claw 3 hits, 2 hits with ring of fire for a total of 13,233 + burning damage, then fire grab hits you for 12,277 = 25,510 of hp + burning damage ……..hmmmm i think you don’t know what “one shotted” means

so i guess that ele at least have Bolt to the Heart (Air Magic VI) what means you were downed to 25% or less of hp and then he hit you with fire grab…. were you just standing there watching the clouds ??

also your 4 signets mean nothing of your build so we don’t know if you are bunker, glass cannon or what??? and idk why you play a thief if you cand dodge

yes eles are op… for mobs may be

chris.6583:

magic poof hits you with dragon’s claw 3 hits, 2 hits with ring of fire for a total of 13,233 + burning damage, then fire grab hits you for 12,277 = 25,510 of hp + burning damage ……..hmmmm i think you don’t know what “one shotted” means

so i guess that ele at least have Bolt to the Heart (Air Magic VI) what means you were downed to 25% or less of hp and then he hit you with fire grab…. were you just standing there watching the clouds ??

also your 4 signets mean nothing of your build so we don’t know if you are bunker, glass cannon or what??? and idk why you play a thief if you cand dodge

yes eles are op… for mobs may be

You sir need to improve your reading skills.

Uhtameit.2413:

You sir need to improve your reading skills.

sry my engrish is terrible

chris.6583:

Uhtameit.2413:

You sir need to improve your reading skills.

sry my engrish is terrible

I mean that the OP said they were just standing there one shotting each other and you seem to have overlooked that.

Uhtameit.2413:

chris.6583:

Uhtameit.2413:

You sir need to improve your reading skills.

sry my engrish is terrible

I mean that the OP said they were just standing there one shotting each other and you seem to have overlooked that.

it seems …. anyway that does not prove fire grab is op, since he is just standing there waiting to receive the damage (full damage with all conditions available)

chris.6583:

Uhtameit.2413:

chris.6583:

Uhtameit.2413:

You sir need to improve your reading skills.

sry my engrish is terrible

I mean that the OP said they were just standing there one shotting each other and you seem to have overlooked that.

it seems …. anyway that does not prove fire grab is op, since he is just standing there waiting to receive the damage (full damage with all conditions available)

He was being sarcastic and asked for ele buffs because it has low survivability. Some other people proved that ele doesn’t even have the highest damage … :’)

chris.6583:

Uhtameit.2413:

chris.6583:

Uhtameit.2413:

You sir need to improve your reading skills.

sry my engrish is terrible

I mean that the OP said they were just standing there one shotting each other and you seem to have overlooked that.

it seems …. anyway that does not prove fire grab is op, since he is just standing there waiting to receive the damage (full damage with all conditions available)

Dude go read the original post carefully. Haha the guy in the op wasn’t claiming Ele’s were op. If I’m not mistaken he only titled his thread that to draw attention to it. That way he can say that they need a buff!

The only thing where we would shine is when we get a new set of Weapons. Then we will be OP for a month or two until others learn our rotations…

So every year or two, we’ll have our 5 minutes of Awesomeness. That’s what it’s all about

P Fun Daddy.1208:

It’s funny, because ele’s most viable build (huge burst) is essentially a warrior troll build.
Anybody see the killshot builds, that basically do ele burst but in a single projectile that can be used once every 10ish seconds?
Takes a bit longer if you are noticed and is a bit less damage, but it’s all one hit and happens every few seconds as opposed to once a minute, on a super tanky class.

Seriously. Can you imagine the outcry of OPness if Anet were to buff lightning surge on staff to even 75% the damage killshot does. It has a huge wind up , extremely telegraphed just like killshot. I think it did hit hard in closed beta. Thats probably the only reason it has such a unique animation and where the "air deals massive damage in a single attack " BS came from. But being killed in 2-3 hits would be worth it if we could snipe people like War does from across the field with that thing.

I will just leave this here.

thieves you don’t see coming, an ele has the single most telegraphed skills in the world

Chuck Zitto.2367:

I will just leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p3cYGQvQ8g

Hahaha! What the heck…