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Posted by: Arth.8617

Arth.8617

Hello guys!

I was wondering about why elementalist couldent weapon swap in combat and I read some topics about it, where people said elementalist would have be overpowered if they could swap weapons with the four elements and all the 20skills available at hand.

After some time thinking about it I thought to myself, well why should elementalist have all the elements available for one weapon set , why not when weapon swap, to have 2 elements for each weapon set and like Revenants stances, you can have the ability to change between your elements to fit the element with the weapon you have equiped.

For exemple:

1. weapon swap: 2 elements: Fire/Air – Dagger/Dagger (10skills)

2. weapon swap: 2 elements: Water/Earth – Staff (10skills)

or..

1. weapon swap: 2 elements: Fire/Water – Staff (10skills)

2. weapon swap: 2 elements: Air/Earth – Specter/dagger (10skills) etc.

As you see here you have 10skills available for each weapon swap instead of 20skills as it would have been with all four elements each weapon swap.
I just wanna see what you guys think about this, could this weapon swap work for elementalist or is it still to overpowered?

Please discuss this!

This is just my opinion about the topic.

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Posted by: Arutha.9874

Arutha.9874

To much customisation that would require more UI is probably the reason why it isn’t there. And then balancing issues eg. Staff water has to be equal to dagger water.
It just seems like too much work, the current system works well.
Maybe some elite spec further away

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

i would like the possibility to say swap only traited elements but select the weapon set for each element and get 5sec swap CD for only having two elements.
Or get a weapon swap instead elemental swap on 5sec CD and choose your element. So you are a fire Elementalist with staff + D/Wh and can swap within fire.

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Posted by: Arth.8617

Arth.8617

You are free to put in which weapon you want, just like it is now ingame, but instead of have 20skills (four elements) on one weapon set for exemple on (1) staff, you have only two elements on and can weapon swap to the other two remaining elements with your other weapon set (2) like dagger/dagger.
And ofcourse you can change the element you want to be on which weapon set (1) or (2), to make it fit your gameplay.

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Posted by: Glacial.9516

Glacial.9516

It would certainly be an interesting idea.

I’d picture being able to select 0-4 Elements to each weapon. if you wished to use Staff for all 4, you’d have that choice. If you wanted Staff for Fire. and Dagger/Focus for Water/Air/Earth you’d have that choice too.

I do think it would be too strong though, and we’d need a rebalance of a lot of our skills. Air Dagger with Fire Staff would be incredible together. It would be a welcomed addition to be able to switch between Melee and Range while stuck in combat.

That said, I’d gladly settle for a strictly out-of-combat weapon switch.

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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

Yashuoa.9527

Hello guys!

I was wondering about why elementalist couldent weapon swap in combat and I read some topics about it, where people said elementalist would have be overpowered if they could swap weapons with the four elements and all the 20skills available at hand.

After some time thinking about it I thought to myself, well why should elementalist have all the elements available for one weapon set , why not when weapon swap, to have 2 elements for each weapon set and like Revenants stances, you can have the ability to change between your elements to fit the element with the weapon you have equiped.

For exemple:

1. weapon swap: 2 elements: Fire/Air – Dagger/Dagger (10skills)

2. weapon swap: 2 elements: Water/Earth – Staff (10skills)

or..

1. weapon swap: 2 elements: Fire/Water – Staff (10skills)

2. weapon swap: 2 elements: Air/Earth – Specter/dagger (10skills) etc.

As you see here you have 10skills available for each weapon swap instead of 20skills as it would have been with all four elements each weapon swap.
I just wanna see what you guys think about this, could this weapon swap work for elementalist or is it still to overpowered?

Please discuss this!

This is just my opinion about the topic.

i would like the possibility to say swap only traited elements but select the weapon set for each element and get 5sec swap CD for only having two elements.
Or get a weapon swap instead elemental swap on 5sec CD and choose your element. So you are a fire Elementalist with staff + D/Wh and can swap within fire.

Cool ideas.

Maybe this could be done for a second elite spec in the future.

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Posted by: Alekt.5803

Alekt.5803

So everyone would have Focus for Earth.

Alerie Despins

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Posted by: emendez.3705

emendez.3705

think a swap would be a bit overpowered but like engineer that has no swap we access to only 2 sigils which hurts

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Posted by: roelvanesch.2817

roelvanesch.2817

think a swap would be a bit overpowered but like engineer that has no swap we access to only 2 sigils which hurts

You don’t mean weapon swap sigils? These work on element swap and kit swap, making them even more viable on ele/engi because of the low cd.

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Posted by: Glacial.9516

Glacial.9516

Swap sigils have an internal cd of 9s. As far as I know only Warriors and Necromancers have a greater advantage with swap sigils because they can proc 4 of them every 9 seconds in ideal circumstances (Warrior by swapping every 4 to 5s, Necro by flashing shroud or exiting shroud just before weapon swap).

The only disadvantage we may have in Sigils is versatility. For example if you used a different weapon for Earth and Fire, you could use Bleed duration on Earth and Burn duration on Fire and probably be better off than all burn or all bleed. Conversely, we only have to buy 2 Sigils per active weapon set instead of the 4 that most classes need to buy, so that’s a (minor) plus for Engi and us.

Edit: Curious. I just realized that overloads are also at 9s (5s warm-up + 4s channel), which puts them in sync with weapon swap. I wonder if this was intentional.

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Posted by: emendez.3705

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think a swap would be a bit overpowered but like engineer that has no swap we access to only 2 sigils which hurts

You don’t mean weapon swap sigils? These work on element swap and kit swap, making them even more viable on ele/engi because of the low cd.

no i mean sigils period would love to have stacks for better condi but i can’t with only 2 slots total