Guild Wars 2

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want eles to be bad. Eles can make dodging useless with their absurd amount of instant damage skills. In exchange for buffs, a number of skills should be made to either have a cast time or have a delay before hitting your foe.
Let’s see how many spells can an S/F ele cast at the same time(starting in earth):

Hurl
Lightning Flash
Arcane Blast
Magnetic Wave
Arcane Wave
Air attunement(deals damage because of Electric discharge)
Lightning Strike
Fire sigil proc
Air sigil proc
These are all instant so one can also cast 1 more spell when casting these.

The only reason it is not broken right now is that marauder ele sustain is bad and damage is not as good as on some elite specs.
Ele does need buffs. However, then it also needs some rework… most of all Lightning strike which has a 3.25-4s CD.

Also if phoenix had balanced damage numbers it would one-shot anyone. This skill is supposed to hit a foe up to 3 times. instead it normally hits 5-6 times. And if you teleport to the other side of your target at the right moment the phoenix turns around and lands extra hits. The most hits I could get were either 8 or 9(can’t remember). This skill used to work fine until it has been tampered with and it hasn’t been fixed since(for a long time).

Are you beating on the S/F ele while ele scepter is considered one of the worst weapons in the game? ……..
Eh an hurl is not instant…
And counting sigils is another questionable thing.

“ele scepter is considered one of the worst weapons in the game” Yes but they have a balance patch today and who knows how much buff it gets? I already stated in my post that it needs a buff but it is not a simple up the dmg kind of buff.

Yes, Hurl IS an instant check it again.
You can precast Rock Barrier outside combat.(30s duration)

Well with sigil of energy getting a nerf these sigils will be the best choice.

So you’re gonna start bashing the s/f before seeing the changes? Also listing arcane skills isn’t really realistic as who is gonna have all of them much less burn all their utilities at once when they don’t do great damage to begin with? Most dont use arcane skills as there isn’t enough Def without cantrips or shouts

Keadron.9570:

So you’re gonna start bashing the s/f before seeing the changes? Also listing arcane skills isn’t really realistic as who is gonna have all of them much less burn all their utilities at once when they don’t do great damage to begin with? Most dont use arcane skills as there isn’t enough Def without cantrips or shouts

I’m talking about buffs overall with less instant skills.

Ok, if you exclude arcane skills tats still 7 spells. is that ok for u?

Why is there no effective builds around them then?

Kicker.8203:

The only reason it is not broken right now is that marauder ele sustain is bad and damage is not as good as on some elite specs.
Ele does need buffs. However, then it also needs some rework…

One because they aren’t great skills. Secondly it’s not all at one time. There are instant I’ll give you that but you put 7 spells at a time… how is it all at once if you’re switching attunement to get to the others? Also one of those listed is a heal skill and who would burn their heal like that? Even if you pulled off every one of those instants spells with their damage it wouldn’t do much good and all skills would be on cd

Keadron.9570:

Secondly it’s not all at one time. There are instant I’ll give you that but you put 7 spells at a time… how is it all at once if you’re switching attunement to get to the others?

OH NO, then u have to add a 0.001s delay… stop nitpicking,

Also one of those listed is a heal skill and who would burn their heal like that? Even if you pulled off every one of those instants spells with their damage it wouldn’t do much good and all skills would be on cd

And can you please tell me which one of those is a healing skill?

It feels like only biased eles are on this forum who want to want to have their cakes and eat them too. This wouldn’t be bad for eles overall it would just prevent the birth of a new aids build. To give you an idea: Lightning Strike: still instant cast, but it first conjures a cloud over your foe and the lightning strikes with a 0.5 or 1s delay. Old damage is increased by 50%.

If you’re so worried about it go make your “aids build” and see how how far it gets you.

Kicker.8203:

prevent

Can you not read seriously?

The first reaper (especially in mercenary) will tear him appart …. Ah and a control warrior (I would assume paladins here now)would have fun too …

Yes I can actually. But you are bashing about a hypothetical build that will prob never even be a viable option. And how is starting this thread hours before the patch comes out going to prevent anything? If and this is a huge if the s/f got buffed to a big degree do you honestly think Anet wouldn’t nerf it? They have never slacked in the nerf the ele department

OK I’m gonna stop reading this thread because it has become highly repetitive.
I’ve made my point.

Kicker.8203:

Yes but they have a balance patch today and who knows how much buff it gets?

Shatterstone and 250+ ferocity on fresh air.
So SF will still be an underperforming build.
So you don’t have to worry about these istant, useless, skills.

Kicker.8203:

OK I’m gonna stop reading this thread because it has become highly repetitive.
I’ve made my point.

The problem here is that you think there will be a lot of buff other shatterstone and fresh air.
But there are not. You will see.

I hope there is more scepter love and a few tewaks on traits that make unused ones like one with fire or conjurer useful …. Well we always can hope…
I fear mercanary amulet is not good for the game. They might replace the bad bunker amulets (sentinel + cele) with one high power 4 stat thing which might be overused.

I don’t really play full bunker but I do like to keep some survivability on my ele as they don’t have it without either an amulet or rune. To be fair bunkers weren’t the only ones who used Cele as it helped cover our weaknesses