Guild Wars 2

Couldn’t really find any discussion on it, so wanted to get people’s thoughts on Ether Renewal vs. Signet of Restoration as a D/D Roaming/Zerg WvW Elementalist? I like the idea of Ether Renewal when I can disengage for a second or two, but do you find it gets interrupted a lot, leaving you with no heal at all?

Cheers,
-E

Well I have a very positive experience with ether renewal, people complain about interrupts and stuff but I don’t find myself geting interrupted that often (even on outmanned fights). I like that you don’t need all the pulses to heal yourself enough, with about 2 secs of cast I’m good to go, but I guess that depends on your healing power. On top of that the condi cleanse on a 15 secs delay is just amazing…

Here is the thread you are looking for:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/healing-skill-pvp/first#post4019881

Not sure how I missed that one… Thanks Darox!

Fighting another elementalist with signet while you run Ether is imo the one place that it is weak otherwise Ether is ok. Like someone said in the linked thread that sometimes your taking as much damage as your healing.

An example is to look at Guardian most sPvP/WvW Guardians run shelter even though Signet of Resolve is double the heal if you take the signet cd reduction trait then the Signet blows shelter out of the water on paper. HPS and scaling both favor Signet of Resolve BUT the damage you block makes shelter better for PvP in most cases.

As far as elementalist goes both heals are great and I wouldn’t discount glyph either which is also a great heal off the top of my head I think glyph is better then signet if you get the heal in water which is ideal but not always possible. It’s personal choice at the end of the day and I would say you can’t really go wrong with either.

I personally use signet most of the time but ether will give you biggest return on your healing power of all of our heals IIRC 1.2 but I am lazy don’t feel like looking.

If you are running 6 points in water with lots of condi cleanses(and Cleansing Fire) imo ER is overkill.
Also i have found that even though ER is stronk vs condis if you really wanna win against someone you need to be offensive.Signet does just that.You can be offensive while regenerating on the go with a Water Attun. cicle.ER will most of the times make you go away and come back in.

I’ve run both extensively, and used to swear by ether. Lately though (last few months) i’ve been solely using SOR. I run 0,0,2,6,6.

Reason being….thieves. I roam solo alot, and when you begin to cast ether one of two things happen, the thief dazes you, or just spams damage for the time you cast it as you can’t dodge or do anything else. During that time you don’t return any damage. SOR wins every time in this situation.

I have decent condi cleanse with 6 in water/evasive arcana.

Unless you have 4 in earth for the stability ether is a gamble. If you desperately need that much condi cleanse run diamond skin.

Ether renewal if you run 0/0/4/4/6
SOR if you run the full dispell 0/0/2/6/6

@Phaelaris
You must use ER againt D/P thief when they’re out of initiative. Try to play just a little the thief class, i did and since i roll overthem (which was near the case before but psssst :p ) just because i understand way better the timing of the class. There is moment where you can cast ER safely

It isn’t just d/p daze you have s/d daze and daze on steal.

I love s/d on my thief and 6 trickery with daze on steal every 21 seconds. 6 trickery is very very popular because it’s a really strong trait anyone running that will interrupt your heal easily. I run d/p off set but s/d is without a doubt my favorite weapon set to go with d/d on ele. It’s very easy to interrupt that heal. I don’t run that evade spam bs on my thief with 6 acro that is annoying and lame but they will have even more ini.

I prefer ER mostly for the cleansing, its especially nice after a spite, corrupt boon, nades rotation or if you get caught in a combustive/pin down/impale/flurry or similar, brushing off those 25 bleeds and 10s immob like its nothin’

Sig for small scale/roaming where its sustain matters. ER for medium scale where chill/cripple/immobilize = death.

Staff (ER/Arcane Brilliance) for very large scale where D/D would just have to give up too much damage to make the survivability workable.