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Posted by: RyanThomas.4182

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If choosing to specialize in Arcane is going to give elementalists an 8.5 second cooldown on attunement swap, is the cooldown of EA also going to get reduced to 8.5 seconds? I know it would be really frustrating if we swapped into water and expected to get a water heal, but instead got nothing.

Even if the cooldown isn’t reduced, it shouldn’t be too much of a problem since people don’t usually use their EA dodge right before swapping out of an attunement, but I just want some clarification.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

In spvp the healing will double as it will no longer be cut in half (skill split). It’s already a fairly decent aoe heal and condition cleanse usable each water attunement, and that’s just the water one alone. Earth’s blast can be used to great effect too.

All in saying is, it’s already a great trait, it just doesn’t really need buffed. More specifically since they gave us back Ea/Ea

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Posted by: Supreme.3164

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A 8.5s CD+1.5s global CD should be still 10s CD overall that’s what I came to realize

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Posted by: Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867

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A 8.5s CD+1.5s global CD should be still 10s CD overall that’s what I came to realize

Exactly.

Although the numbers may be a bit different:
Base attunement cd: 10s
Base swap cd: 1.5s
Base real attunement cd=10+1.5=11.5s

Arcane bonus recharge rate: 15%
Therefore:

Arcane attunement cd: 10/1.15=8.7s
Arcane swap cd: 1.5/1.15=1.3s
Arcane real attunement cd=8.7+1.3=10s

Which matches the cooldown of EA perfectly, but also that of elemental contingency.

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Posted by: savacli.8172

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So now all four ‘dodge’ spells work off of a global CD? Looks like I missed that on the notes.

Nevermind, read this thread too fast.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

In spvp the healing will double as it will no longer be cut in half (skill split). It’s already a fairly decent aoe heal and condition cleanse usable each water attunement, and that’s just the water one alone. Earth’s blast can be used to great effect too.

All in saying is, it’s already a great trait, it just doesn’t really need buffed. More specifically since they gave us back Ea/Ea

Aight, let me reword this.

How is this going to be very powerful when it’s a grandmaster trait on a class that’s very squishy and will be mandatory in many builds? When you say very powerful, I imagine traits that are a choice, not something I have to have to survive.

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

In spvp the healing will double as it will no longer be cut in half (skill split). It’s already a fairly decent aoe heal and condition cleanse usable each water attunement, and that’s just the water one alone. Earth’s blast can be used to great effect too.

All in saying is, it’s already a great trait, it just doesn’t really need buffed. More specifically since they gave us back Ea/Ea

Aight, let me reword this.

How is this going to be very powerful when it’s a grandmaster trait on a class that’s very squishy and will be mandatory in many builds? When you say very powerful, I imagine traits that are a choice, not something I have to have to survive.

Well, it DOES that job, does it not? It’s fine as it is, you need it to survive but you have it. Making it more powerful doesn’t make it more of a choice, so you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sounds like if you want choice you should be concerned if the other GMs are up to par with EA.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

In spvp the healing will double as it will no longer be cut in half (skill split). It’s already a fairly decent aoe heal and condition cleanse usable each water attunement, and that’s just the water one alone. Earth’s blast can be used to great effect too.

All in saying is, it’s already a great trait, it just doesn’t really need buffed. More specifically since they gave us back Ea/Ea

Aight, let me reword this.

How is this going to be very powerful when it’s a grandmaster trait on a class that’s very squishy and will be mandatory in many builds? When you say very powerful, I imagine traits that are a choice, not something I have to have to survive.

Well, it DOES that job, does it not? It’s fine as it is, you need it to survive but you have it. Making it more powerful doesn’t make it more of a choice, so you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sounds like if you want choice you should be concerned if the other GMs are up to par with EA.

I’m not saying it doesn’t, but it’s still not good. The skill itself maybe, but not the fact there’s no diversity at all when it comes to ele. Half of the new traits are plain bad, so bad you can’t even take them.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

In spvp the healing will double as it will no longer be cut in half (skill split). It’s already a fairly decent aoe heal and condition cleanse usable each water attunement, and that’s just the water one alone. Earth’s blast can be used to great effect too.

All in saying is, it’s already a great trait, it just doesn’t really need buffed. More specifically since they gave us back Ea/Ea

Aight, let me reword this.

How is this going to be very powerful when it’s a grandmaster trait on a class that’s very squishy and will be mandatory in many builds? When you say very powerful, I imagine traits that are a choice, not something I have to have to survive.

Well, it DOES that job, does it not? It’s fine as it is, you need it to survive but you have it. Making it more powerful doesn’t make it more of a choice, so you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sounds like if you want choice you should be concerned if the other GMs are up to par with EA.

I’m not saying it doesn’t, but it’s still not good. The skill itself maybe, but not the fact there’s no diversity at all when it comes to ele. Half of the new traits are plain bad, so bad you can’t even take them.

Hence why I said you should be more concerned of whether the other traits are on par with EA. how do you think buffing EA any amount would help diversity?

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

I sort of doubt it. They are unsplitting evasive arcana. It’s already going to be very powerful. I’d imagine you will just have to be a bit more disciplined on your dodge rolls.

Can you tell me how it’s going to be very powerful?

In spvp the healing will double as it will no longer be cut in half (skill split). It’s already a fairly decent aoe heal and condition cleanse usable each water attunement, and that’s just the water one alone. Earth’s blast can be used to great effect too.

All in saying is, it’s already a great trait, it just doesn’t really need buffed. More specifically since they gave us back Ea/Ea

Aight, let me reword this.

How is this going to be very powerful when it’s a grandmaster trait on a class that’s very squishy and will be mandatory in many builds? When you say very powerful, I imagine traits that are a choice, not something I have to have to survive.

Well, it DOES that job, does it not? It’s fine as it is, you need it to survive but you have it. Making it more powerful doesn’t make it more of a choice, so you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sounds like if you want choice you should be concerned if the other GMs are up to par with EA.

I’m not saying it doesn’t, but it’s still not good. The skill itself maybe, but not the fact there’s no diversity at all when it comes to ele. Half of the new traits are plain bad, so bad you can’t even take them.

Hence why I said you should be more concerned of whether the other traits are on par with EA. how do you think buffing EA any amount would help diversity?

No, I think that acting like they did something good will only make them feel like they actually did.