Guild Wars 2

After many hours of theorycrafting and research I’ve come up with the following 0/30/0/10/30 build for WvW..

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJArYhMmKbzR5gjDIkCmg4hF4AcY5xMkD2AA-jkyAorASfApCAZvIm+GyaVrIas6HMlbk1wJVFDAA-w

Few things I’d like to point out:
The backpiece is as close to the yellow flower thing as I could get (which is what I’ll probably be using)
Crit chance is lower than other builds but I can live with that
I was trying to keep power high while keeping toughness as close to 1600 and hp as close to 16k as I could
Trying to see what I can do without using celestial pieces (it’s not like I can’t use them but I wanted to try to focus stats)

With that being said, please critique the build or give me any pointers. I’ve played S/D in tPvP for a while but the customization there is very limited compared to WvW and PvE

Thanks, Dave

Dave.1905:

After many hours of theorycrafting and research I’ve come up with the following 0/30/0/10/30 build for WvW..

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJArYhMmKbzR5gjDIkCmg4hF4AcY5xMkD2AA-jkyAorASfApCAZvIm+GyaVrIas6HMlbk1wJVFDAA-w

Few things I’d like to point out:
The backpiece is as close to the yellow flower thing as I could get (which is what I’ll probably be using)
Crit chance is lower than other builds but I can live with that
I was trying to keep power high while keeping toughness as close to 1600 and hp as close to 16k as I could
Trying to see what I can do without using celestial pieces (it’s not like I can’t use them but I wanted to try to focus stats)

With that being said, please critique the build or give me any pointers. I’ve played S/D in tPvP for a while but the customization there is very limited compared to WvW and PvE

Thanks, Dave

IIRC, Air Training is not working at the moment, you might swap it for Zephyr’s Boon or Aeromancer’s Alacrity.
As a Burst DPS class, I would recommend using FGS instead than Glyph of Elementals, since the latter is more suited for sustained dps fights (at least IMHO), whereas FGS is really good for escaping, if the situation calls for that (and you never know what could happen in WvW).
Other than this, it looks pretty solid to me. The lack of Water 15 is quite noticeable though: EA could make up for it, but remember that you are wasting a dodge in order to use that “missing” heal.
Since Fresh Air builds rely on staying in air attunement for longer, you could sacrifice some points in Arcana and put them into Water (I’d say from 5 to 10 points), but it’s really up to you.
Still, your Crit Chance is quite low. I’d swap your Soldier’s Chestpiece for a Knight’s Chestpiece, giving you 37% base Crit Chance, which HAS to be improved with food and oils to reach at least 40%, since Fury uptime will be quite low.
My 2 cents.

Thanks for the quick response

I’m used to playing with 30 arcana and the elemental from sPvP but I can play around with FGS too. I’ve seen it in a few videos and it looks really fun in the right situations

What’s not working in Air Training? I was unaware it wasn’t working properly

With the condi meta atm do you think the crit chance is worth the HP loss? How expensive does the food get to be using it consistently in WvW?

I believe you will perform well with it until you face a good condition necro, glass thief or a stun lock build warrior. Even though you have evasive arcana, constant small heals and endurance regeneration as your defensive mechanism, it just won’t be enough to counter any skillful player that can put a lot of pressure on you. It is not very bunker to outlast nor does it have a great burst to compensate. Like HiHey stated definitely try FGS as elite. It is not just awesome for giving you enough mobility to escape any sudden outnumbered situation but it is also great in combat.

I didn’t know air training was not working atm, I will have to test this out to be sure. Thanks for the heads up hihey.

Figures those specs are the ones I have the most trouble with in PvP. I get what you mean about not having enough counter. That’s the biggest problem I face in tPvP, how to deal with constant pressure and when to swap in and out of water. I’ll improve over time with experience but I realize there’s some situations you’re just build wars’d out of

I appreciate the feedback

Dave.1905:

Thanks for the quick response

I’m used to playing with 30 arcana and the elemental from sPvP but I can play around with FGS too. I’ve seen it in a few videos and it looks really fun in the right situations

What’s not working in Air Training? I was unaware it wasn’t working properly

With the condi meta atm do you think the crit chance is worth the HP loss? How expensive does the food get to be using it consistently in WvW?

I am positive there was a trait in Air which was not working and I believe it to be Air Training. Could be mistaken though, it has been a lot since I last played my Ele (had to level my Thief :])

The condi meta… is strange. I usually tend to roam alone or in small groups in WvW, and while I do this I rarely encounter Necros, let alone condi necros, at all. That’s because of the huge issues that class has in WvW, since it is terribly slow (and thus bores users to death) and it has almost no escaping utilities (which means that if you get caught by surprise you will most likely die).
More over, WvW is not like regular PvP: you don’t have to hold points, so you can move pretty much everywhere, which makes marks really difficult to land, provided your opponent is somewhat decent.
I, for one, have never “lost” to a Necro. If things get bad, I can always at least get away safely. And I usually run with 13k HP!
Also, keep in mind of the availability of food buffs which reduce incoming conditions duration by up to 40%!
So what I’m trying to tell you is don’t be concerned THAT much about conditions:
Oh, on a side note, I use Sigil of Generosity (not available on pvp) on my scepter, which, paired with a high natural crit chance, enables me to fear back a lot of necros.

WvW is really different from regular PvP. If you plan to solo roam, the hardest encounter you could face is a good stealth thief.

I would also suggest swapping Mist Form for Signet of Air: it gives you a handy AoE Blind+insta damage, which is never bad, and it is a far more reliable stun breaker than Mist Form. Basilisk Venom has kitten cooldown, you know. And the speed increase in combat is really important in order to control the battlefield if you can’t rely on a good Swiftness uptime

Sounds good, I think I’ll swap the chestpiece for a Knight’s piece. I never saw Signet of Air has a stun break, I’ll play around with it. Just for reference, what are the names of the food I should be using?

Dave.1905:

Sounds good, I think I’ll swap the chestpiece for a Knight’s piece. I never saw Signet of Air has a stun break, I’ll play around with it. Just for reference, what are the names of the food I should be using?

Check them all here: Choose the one with the desired stats you would like. If you are not stacking precision then I would strongly recommend a food with precision bonus. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Food

Yeah I think precision food is necessary to bump up crit chance. Would you recommend stacking bloodlust for solo roaming or just going with a force sigil? I know there’s a point where force stops being better but I don’t know exactly where that is or if I’ll consistently come close to it while solo/small group roaming.

Food would be Plate of Truffle Steak and Master/Potent Master Maintenance Oil? Would that be overkill for precision?

Dave.1905:

Yeah I think precision food is necessary to bump up crit chance. Would you recommend stacking bloodlust for solo roaming or just going with a force sigil? I know there’s a point where force stops being better but I don’t know exactly where that is or if I’ll consistently come close to it while solo/small group roaming.

Food would be Plate of Truffle Steak and Master/Potent Master Maintenance Oil? Would that be overkill for precision?

Just bring two weapons with you, one with bloodlust or the +precision on kill stacks.
IMHO, the best thing would be a base 45-50% crit chance (that is, without Fury).

Dave.1905:

Yeah I think precision food is necessary to bump up crit chance. Would you recommend stacking bloodlust for solo roaming or just going with a force sigil? I know there’s a point where force stops being better but I don’t know exactly where that is or if I’ll consistently come close to it while solo/small group roaming.

Food would be Plate of Truffle Steak and Master/Potent Master Maintenance Oil? Would that be overkill for precision?

My personal preference regards to critical chance is between 40-50% without fury. A master maintenance oil would probably be enough to bring yours to 40% then with the food and stacks you can focus on other stats. If there is a limit of sigil of force I haven’t reach it yet because I still notice the increase of dmg I do with it than without it. My burst non-glass ele has 3500atk when fully buffed (without might) with 35% additional damage bonus boost.

Man this build is gonna kill my bank lmao

Anyway thanks for your input you two it really helped